Fri. night street midnight madness at Maryland International Dragway this coming Fri. I will have a 100 shot on the Alty, hopefully DR's, and some weight reduction. Should have easy 12 second potential.

Just letting everyone know who's in the area. Anyone who wants to meet up just let me know via this thread. MIR, this Fri., the 16th of Apr. Come if you can!! It's gonna get HOT....




Jon

 

dude, post this in the regional forum. http://forums.maxima.org/forumdispla...aysprune=&f=14

 

You plan on keeping the powertrain together long with that 100 shot?

Seriously though, 12's is tough, real tough man, even with dr's...FWD is not your friend when you're trying to launch good, steer, and then control the car when you hit the juice. Mid 13's are in your future with the shot and dr's, 12's is pushing it imo.

Either way, good luck! Post your results for that bottle-fed Alti.

 

Well, I'm by no means comparing the two cars, but theres another guy on here with either a 4th/5th gen Max that ran a 14.6 NA and a 12.1 on a 150 shot. I believe that car is an auto. I've been what's in my sig NA so far. I plan on taking a litle more weight out of the car, hopefully putting me in the 14.0-14.1 range, with the 100 shot on top of that, I think it should have the POTENTIAL to go 12s. If I don't get the DR's I wont be expecting any more than prolly a 13.5 or so at best.

As far as the tranny, I'll more than likely be letting off the juice between shifts in hopes of keeping the tranny together. Also, I'm just borrowing the kit for a weekend, so it's not like Ill be spraying it all the time. I'll probably put one bottle throught it, that's it.



I'll definately post the reults though, probably be Mon.




Jon

 

I hope it's a wet kit, cause you're going to need more fuel. Make sure when you get to MIR to get two gallons of RED race fuel to help with detonation. 2 gallons should be mixed with about 1/4 tank of 94 from Sunoco. You had better go buy some 2 step colder plugs, and gap them to .036 before you run that shot through the car or you will be taking it home on a trailer. Good luck, don't hit the juice til you're at about 4500rpm in 1st, and don't bother letting off through the shift is it is an auto. The right lane next to the tower had better traction last time I was there.

 

Thanks for the advice! Again, not to compare the very late model 3.5VQ to another car, but I've had gas on cars before. My '96 Z28 I had went mid 13sNA and on a 150 shot with DRs, spraying out the gate, went a 12.0 @ 115. That was no changes in anything on the motor. The stock platinum plugs and everything. I ran 93 octane in that all the time. The stock CR was about 10.5:1. What type of CR does the 3.5 have? What type of plugs come stock (I'm assuming platinum, but but kind)?

Yes it is a wet kit. I'm a big advocate against dry kits myself, always have been. If I can get the DR's I will probably try and spray it halfway through 1st. If I end up on radials I will wait until 2nd. I will do some tuning/playing around with it before I actually go, if I have any problems with detonation or backfires etc., I will not run it. I was thinking of trying to spray between shifts while I'm playing here at home with it, and if it doesn't take, then try just letting off between shifts.

I origianlly hadn't planned on changing plugs and just running 93 octane. I know everyone has this big fear of platinum plugs and I know why, but after spraying my Z with platinums for about 20k miles and having no problems, I may try it on the 3.5 and just see if it takes it. If I have a problem with detenation then I'll go from there- put a richer fuel jet in, add higher oct. gas, change plugs, etc....




Jon

 

I don't see 12s being a problem at all if you can hook, but DRs blow on FWD cars in my opinion and it's full slicks or nothing in the traction department with that much power. Unless the class you are running in prohibits slicks, why would you half-*** it on tires when you are shooting for a goal?

 

The auto that ran 12.1s was running full on slicks that were a mere 22" in height. His torque multiplication was insane with the short tires, stalling up the torque converter, and launching on a two stage nitrous setup. That's why he went 12.1@108mph with a low 1.8 60'. DRs with a 5 speed, 3.5 VQ torque, and nitrous will be hard to tame. The problem I see with most guys running DRs is that they don't warm them up correctly. It is MANDATORY that you do a full on burnout and lower the psi to 14-16. A few weeks ago I watched a nitrous Viper GTS pull consistent 1.5s on BFG DRs and stock 18" rims. I'm a believer in the BFG DRs assuming the driver knows how to get the most out of them. I don't see why 1.9s should be possible with a NA VQ manual.


Dave

 

Jon lets just put the wet kit on my car. we already know my maxima is faster than that altima.

 

so is anyone actually going this weekend to MIR? my exhaust cutout will finally be in and i want to test it out before i go home for summer....

 

This altima is automatic dave.

 

This is a little misinformation. I ran my setup through about 6-7 bottles always on pump 93 octane and never had a problem. Also the spark plugs are just fine I tracked my car plenty of times and drove it home just fine(please don't make assumptions like this based on something someone told you b/c its simply not true). Although for a 100 on stock plugs might be pushing it a little bit I had no problems. 2 step colder plugs aren't available for the VQ35 in copper but 1 step colder are available. Spraying out of the hole is not going to hurt anything b/c the revs are so quick it 1st gear it has as very slim chance or anything puddling from slow revving with major stress. I do however recommend unplugging the drop resistor if you spray in between shifts in an Auto unless you have a VB mod. Just thought I would give my $.02 considering some of this info was a little misleading.

Matt

 

Dave,

this guy is an Auto, and I could be wrong which I have on many occasions but I believe Jime lauched off idle or low rpms with the nitrous enguaged (something I should have tried). Ohhh and about BFG's a local supra was able to pulle a 1.49 60' on 255's shooting him to a 9.90@139

 

Dave just a couple of small corrections, I know you are a stickler for detail.

I don't stall the converter, my launches seem to be best just above idle, ie 8-900 RPM. Just used a single stage setup, never did get the 2 stage installed last year and I ran a 1.7 60' time which has not been beat by even the manuals.

Contrary to popular belief that run was also made with full interior. Of course I had my race seats, but rear seat, carpet, door panels etc was all there. I don't like to take the rear seat out because as soon as people look inside they say "Oh its gutted".

Matt, you are 100% on the nitrous out of the hole. When people say not to spray below a certain RPM, to me that is applicable to a 5 or 6 speed in 3rd or 4th gear etc where the engine cannot rev like in the lower gear.

Its virtually impossible to go WOT with an auto below 2500 or 3000 because as soon as your foot hits the floor the RPM is gonzo. Companies always warn about that to cover their butts, if you ask them in person with no recording devices around its a total different story.

 

exactly, as soon as you punch a auto it shoots past 3,500 so there is no reason to wait to spray. sometimes i spray right out of the hole if i have good enough traction. i have a auto shooting 100 shot but i have a tranny upgrade and v.b. if you do all the right things during take off i see mid 13's to high 12 easy for you . goodluck with that beast.

 

Thanks for all the replies fellas! Really appreciate it. I won't go into a lot of details, but here's a link to a update-

http://forums.thevboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=32962


It didn't go quite as planned but it is working. Some may call me crazy, but I'll be getting rid of the car shortly anyway. I'm anxious to see what she'll do tonight...


Wish me luck!!!



Jon



PS- Will post ETs first thing Mon morning...

 

The only reason I said not to hit the juice until your mid way through first is traction, not safety. Everytime I hit the juice before I'm doing 30mph, I get tire spin. You may be better with the slicks, but I think I would get some tire spin even with slicks below 20 mph. I have my set up designed to be on as soon as I am WOT. I have to walk it out of the hole, and then hit the juice. I need to get a set of slicks, and give it a try with my set up now. I am also powerbraking out of the box, I have not tried to mash it from 8-900RPM like Jime. Good luck, I wish I could make it. By the way the suggestions for colder plugs, and a little race fuel are helpful tips, not mandatory or you will blow up like BBY2K2 seemed. I know you can run a pretty good shot, but it is better to spend $30 and raise the safety of it than to push the limit a little too far, and have problems. I like to run my car hard, but I don't want to break anything if I don't have to.

 

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