sup guys,

i have a 98 se 5sp with CAI, y pipe, muffler and a short throw shifter, and i am taking everything out from the trunk and i am takin my system out so its gunna be empty i said iwill hit low 15s with good take off and good shifting and its a good track condition, but some ppl with integra and civics keep on saying i would be lucky if i hit low 16s and they even wanna put money on it, so what do u guys say about that???

 

you can hit low 15, bet and get some money

 

Low 15s easy in a modded 5spd. Take their cash because they're too dumb to deserve it

~THT

 

The title of this thread makes no sense. Anyway, with a very good driver you can run 14.7 with a stock 5spd. You'll run 15s all day long if you shift with your mouth. Take out the back seats too, and the passenger seat.

 

i heard about that guy that ran his max stock and he got 14.7 but its kind hard to belive

 

5spd with a y-pipe is an easy 14 sec car unless your at a very high elevation or your pulling 2.5 60'.

 

I wonder what i will run with intake, y-pipe, b-pipe and TS Ecu with 18" light weight rims going against me. 96 SE 5-speed with 56k on my engine.

 

Ha, tell those honda boys that even a stock auto can do better than their predicted time

 

Dude like everyone else is saying, bet and take their money. Hell if its a good chunk of change youll even end op getting another part for free. Almost everyone with a honda civic thinks that they are the ****. Show em the deal and thell wont underestimate the Max agian.

 

alright then iam gunna go for it then guys iwill telll u all how every thing went after i show them what the max can do

 

I have seen that guy drive, and he shifts like lightning!
h2kpinkpnthr is his screen name, and there is a post about his run in the SouthEast forum.
It was a stock Maxima, and I don't think he took anything out!

I am modded, but not quite as much as you and I manages a 15.15 @ 92.7 the very first time I ran at the track.
You got them.....make some money and donate it to Maxima.org so that we can get the ability to search again.....ha ha

 

yea def u can get in the low 15 of not high 14's...i gotta automatic 97 max and i took it to the tracks basically stock and was hitting 16.0 flat almost everytime...bet them doods and represent...good luck

 

It seems you should have enough power to get the job done, but there other factors to consider:

1. Overall tune of your car, ie. good plugs, fuel filter, knock sensor, etc.
2. Good tires and tire pressure
3. Launch technique
4. Shift points

I don't know how experienced you are but these things all play a role in making good times.

 

I really like those wheels on your car, Midknight Maxx.
I used to date a nurse that worked at Eglin Air Force Base down there.
Nice city.

 

Thanks I've yet to see anyone else with'em. As far as this city it's a "Nice place to visit".

 

And while you're at it, take the doors off and file down your tires. Might also want to cut off your exhaust as well. LOL

No way in hell a pre 2000 lightly modded max will do anything better than mid to low 15's. Its not going to happen with 190 hp.

 

Lots of guys have run 14s stock. If you cant run 14s with your mods your car either has a problem or you just need more experience racing.

 

I ran 14.8 stock and 14.4 with just a Y pipe thanks. Please drive through. 96 GXE at over 100k miles at the time.

 

timeslip? Unless that Y pipe gave you 30 or more hp, i am calling shenanigans.

 

If magazines can manage a 14.9 out of a stock 4th gen then I think Neal can get a 14.8. Its all in the 60' time. Check out the 1/4 mile/racing forum. Oh and a Y pipe does give you 30 hp @ 6,000rpm. http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/504 A Y pipe is the best bang for the buck.

 

What do you mean "heard about that guy"???? That's such a noobish response on your part. Many drivers ran and still run 14.7's with bone stock 4th gen SE's.

14.7 is the magic number here, because it is the lowest, best possible time that a stock 4th gen can attain. However, it requires:

a) 5-spd

b) perfect shifting

b) nearly a perfect launch

c) Good overall track and weather conditions

Don't get me wrong - it is difficult to get 14.7. IMO, only a very good driver can do it and that's 1 out of every 15 times he runs. Just my $.02 based on my own observations.

Finally, you people must realize that just because you know of one person on the org who ran a 14.7, that doesn't mean others don't. There are so many ******* Maximas in the US. I bet that about only 1 out of every 15 or 20 Maximas is modded. Now 1 out of every 2 or 3 modded Maximas is on the org. There are times we simply don't know about and never will. Not everyone feels the need to share their 1/4 mile time (however good or bad) with the org. People, or rather car enthusiasts, have better things to do than sit around and talk about cars on the internet. I do because I'm only 22 and I have the time, but I know many who do not.

 

Sorry, but you really are way off. Seriously man, I don't want to cause another war, but you have no clue what you're talking about. Mid 15's???? HAHAHAHAHA

Get this: I went to a track only once in my life. I only got to run twice in a 3-hour period because it got very crowded. My first run (ever) was at 15.5, but don't laugh just yet. I completely screwed my takeoff and switched gears like a gramma. My second and final run was at 15.1, although again I screwed the launch, spinning mostly throughout first. That's a great time for a noob if you ask me.

I know for a fact that I could've nailed high 14's with more runs. It's all experience at first. One must feel his/her car and with a little practice, high 14's in a stock 4th gen 5-spd are attainable.

The other thing is that I didn't know many things at the time (about 1 year ago). First off, I had over a 1/4 tank of gas, which is bad. Then, I did not remove any of the important weight-reducing components like my heavy winter floor mats and the trunk carpeting along with the wheel. Oh well, I learn something new every day, just as you will I hope so - slag!

 

well u know what guys that what i thought about the max, when i go to track iam gunna get back to u guys tell u how everyting went and show u my time slips.

 

Seems like a good call.
And if slag gives you some trouble about not believing what you ran, if you get in the low 15's or high 14's, don't worry about it. He has obviously proven that he knows nothing of what he speaks about. He was doubting Nealoc, who is well-known for his times in a Maxima.

 

ur right man, iam gunna try to post some video too

 

Race him........free mod money

 

which one would you like to see... I've got 250 or so in the desk drawer next to me

 

That's really funny because no N/A 2K-2k1 has even come close to the fastest N/A 4th gen maxima.

Look at my sig.

 

I'd really like to see a video of it.

Here's where I am coming from. A stock 97-2001 gtp (3.8 liter supercharged engine) has 240 horses. The car is a bit heavier than a max, but not much. It only comes in an automatic configuration but shifts ok with a shift kit.

At any rate, those cars have great off the line grunt and really pull hard at first, but dont have great top end. They do however have the torque needed for 1/4 mile runs and do high 14's to mid 14's.

50 more hp, much better torque, slightly more weight, and a decent shifting automagic tranny.... and do mid to high 14's.

Ok, so a stock 5 speed 190 hp max may do extremely high 14's.. but that is a factory freak.

 

NO, shut up.

 

Have you driven a 4th gen? Weight makes a big difference in the 1/4 mile,
a 500lb difference is not a bit heavier, its just heavier.

 

This is good he decides to question one of the most consistent 1/4 milers on the site.

 

I don't have any stock runs on video I only went to the track once stock and I went by myself.

The weight difference between the two is far more than you are assuming I think. I don't know for a fact what a GTP weighs, but nada.com puts them at 3455 and 3525 for the 2 and 4 door respectively. Add a 170lb driver and you've got a car weighing between 3625 and almost 3700lbs. My car back when it was stock weighed 3030lbs. Were looking at an average of 640lbs more weight. That's not a slight weight increase, thats a full 20% weight increase. Add to that the fact that the GTP is equipped with a less than optimally geared automatic, and the max has a 5spd which is geared quite a bit more agressively.

I'm not the only person here whos run 14s in a stock 4th gen. Off the top of my head I can think of at least 5 here who've done it, and a few of them in quicker times than I have.

I don't believe in factory freaks, I believe in good drivers, good track prep and good weather. My car never trapped higher than 93.0 stock. That is right in line with what other 4th gen 5spds trap at, and incidentally, almost identical to what they were trapping in the magazines back in those days. The guys running 14s in stock 4th gens aren't blazing through the traps at 98mph or something insane like that, they are getting good 60' times, they know how to shift, etc. I've done it not only in my car, but other stock and non-stock maximas (that is run better times than the owner of the car, my first time racing the car). It's mostly got to do with the driver.

 

I own a 96 max. not owned it long, but i know its a quick car.

 

Obviously, you don't know what it is capable of.

 

You are probably correct there. I am basing a lot of my experience off my 2003 max as well which quite frankly does not feel as quick as this 96 does and my 97 gtp which I feel could blow both of them away. I still like the maximas better than my old gtp though.

 

I have raced plenty of GTP's and they are not all they are cracked up to be, I don't care if they are supercharged. They are heavy as crap, as stated above.

Your 2003 should be faster than the 96 because it has the 3.5L engine.

 

yeah, it should be, but doesnt feel like it.

My 97 gtp with a pulley and pcm flash would take an lt1 powered camaro off the line. All for $300.00 worth of mods..

 

Hey, now that you mention this specific car. My friends mom has one. Its a 97 GTP he had it out one day and i asked him to run it against my 99 SE auto (stock). Ive never taken my car to the track and wanted to get an idea how quick it really was. Knowing the numbers the GTP pushed i thought it would be a good test. Well first things first....im an excellent driver, i know auto doesnt really take much skill but and he was a rather inexperienced driver. He has a mustang but never really learned how to launch. So i wasted him off the line and even in the end, he never passed me. The GTP spun off the line and almost hit me but i beat him clearly all the way through to the end. We were both really suprised and i told him before we went at it that i didnt expect much just a comparison. Clearly the GTP should have left me in the dust. Being that they are both autos it says something about the maxima here. I mean both of us just mashed on the gas when we saw green. I hope this settles something. If my car ran 16's the GTP running 14s would have caught up and passed no matter how bad of a launch.

 

For real though, if you have a max that is running in the 16's, you had better have a bad knock sensor or be pulling two jet skiis. That sucks for any maxima, let alone a 4th gen.