I came across this kinda intake which i've never seen before. At first it seems like a great idea to have the filter mounted right infront of the radiator where you can easily get the cold air and have a intercooler look a like sittin down there. but then again the tubes are VERY long and im wondering if the manifold will ever be able to suck the air inside and if this is gonna put the manifold under alot of pressure and hard work. also I doubt the air is gonna go in by itself due to intake shape and VERY long tube. And i think this blocks air from passin through the radiator as well. what do you think about the intake? is it a good idea? garbage? they're only available for a few integras and hondas.



the pipes go from the manifold to the fender and then the front bumper.



Installed in Civic hatch.


Its made by arospeed.
http://arospeed.com/default.php?cPath=22_37_39


BTW i have no clue what the plastic cover on the filter is for, that completly blocks the airflow...

 

I dont think you'll see much of anything because of its long piping. I've seen them on a Civic before it looked alright

 

Looks like a very poor attempt to 'APPEAR' like an intercooler.

So since it's appears like one, what happens when someone pulls up on you? You're gonna get dusted big time (and laughed at for posing)

If you're gonna front like you got an intercooler, you had BETTER actually have one (plus the turbo/Sc with it)

 

well intercooler is never that small, specially on a V6, besides, there is only 1 tube going to it. people should realize that its not an intercooler. i would never get it just because it looks like an intercooler, id get it if it really works

 

Actually some V6 turbos didn't even come with an IC. IC size is not only related to engine size. It's turbo size, psi and other numerous things.

Who is going to sit there and look to see if he has two pipes or not? It's pretty obvious that's a Ricer IC intake thing.

 

There are intercoolers smaller than that even...some have dual intercoolers that fit in small holes in the front bumper usually used for venting brakes or something. I've seen it done on a 3000gt.

 

There was a .orger a while back with a Jade green Maxima that had one just like that.


I agree, poor attempt at an intercooler look-alike, better have the power, not just the look.

 

lame...........

 

Totally F'ing rice

 

Ram air intake. Don't know how much power they will add to the Maxima.

 

The intakes we have now, the CAI and hybrid, are probably as good as it gets for the max. The engine is most likely getting more than enough air for optimum performance.

 

Even the gay guy in my office agrees that the intake posted is


Dave

 

hmm i wonder why you have a gay guy in your OFFICE

 

The first pic appears to have some sort of plexiglass (sp?) cover over the filter. Oh, and I would hate to hit a big puddle with that filter sitting right there.

 

I know all about these front mount intakes. The are just another type of CAI. The pipe is only about 6-12" longer than a traditional PR CAI. My buds speed shop sells Arospeed stuff so there are a few cars localy with them. It has a removeable clear plexiglass shield so water isnt sucked directly into the filter. The filter itself is quite large too. Its just another attemp to make money.

 

I saw that on a riced-out civic a couple of weeks ago. If you guys think Injen's run the risk of causing hydro-lock going thru puddles, the guy who owns that civic only takes it out on non-rainy days with no plexi-glass/plastic.

 

one word to describe that "thing":: LAME.

 

Because he's both a great worker and great guy.


Dave

 

This thing really looks bad, but to answer your question about if the manifold would be able to suck the air in I'm pretty sure that atmospheric pressure will help alittle bit with that.

 

POS attempt to make an intake look like an intercooler. HAHAHA funny shiit.

 

you guys wanna know something funny? If that was the 1st CAI design you would think differently about it. How come you guys dont dis the Injen style intake too? An intake is an intake.....this one just happens to be visiable from the outside. That panel filter looks nothing like an intercooler. You'd have to be some stupid to think turbo IC with one of these.

 

Injen sucks too. I bash that one also

 

Lets call it by its official name.

"The fake-azz ricer wanna-be turboed car intercooler style intake"


Ricers buy this to make people think their car is fast. This intake most likely has negitave effects. It's like 8 feet long, theres hardly any air comming in when the plexiglass is in place (99% of the time) And the pipes have gotta be exposed to some heat.



I'd put this mod right next to the pushbutton electronic turbo noise maker.


edit: oh yeah, I dont like the injen intake either.....

 

Is the INJEN the one that is placed behind the rad and in front of the headers? Whoever came up with that design needs to get his *** kicked.

 

so if the Injen sucks so much why is Ceasers car one of the fastest NA Maximas?

 

That has nothing to do with it. I have a HAI mid-pipe set up and my car is faster than Ceasers. An intake is not going to be the deciding factor in what makes a maxima fast.

 

hmm
it's an intake. NOISE!
like a muffler
lots of noise little performance.

i like my injen.
i'd heard/drove almost all the rest.
i like my injen the best...the sound is great...

its just an intake.

(oh and the aerospeed thing is crap)

 

wow, Maxima.org post quality continues to rise... guys, keep it up

 

.......

 

on another note here guys....

forget the piping and the fake intercooler mounting position. perhaps some of you guys could be using long, thin airfilter instead of the cone. i dont know how much this differently shaped filter will help you 4th-6th gen guys, but i know the 3rd gen VE guys are always looking for opportunities to make room in the engine bay for a custom turbo setup.

just a thought.

otherwise...

walka

 

every1 should stop bashing it without even having any proper info(dyno's) from this product. i think its not really my style but if it works just as good as any other intake then i dont see y people shuldnt buy it. also all you people who hate on the injen, i have one question? why? does you intake give you some kinda mystical hp boost that us injen owners dont know about? all you place racing guys think that you only get cold air to your intake? if you by the fender wall i dont think that thin lining is gonna keep brake heat away from the filter. and if your not driving fast enough to have that muh brake heat then you wasted you money buying your supposed performance mod. lets just end this right now.. we get intakes for the sound and thats it.

 

Please feel free to buy on of these "fake IC" intakes and prove us wrong with a dyno sheet. I'd be interested in seeing it.

Injen. Common sense maybe? Feel down where the filter is when it's hot and the fans are blowing. Then reach around where the true cai intakes pick their air.

 

i havent seen a dyno to prove that one of your real cai get better numbers then my injen. also explain how your filter in the fender is better then having the filter in the location of one that you call a fake cai. wat makes it fake? it gets cold air from the front of the car and some people confuse it wit an ic? people confuse tranny coolers wit ic and i dont see people stop using those things. u cant get colder air from any other place then where that "fake one" as you call it is gonna get its air. stop judging this or any product if u dont have any proof on it. use that common sense to kno that when dealing with performance parts its only numbers that determine if somethin is worth getting and not your hand feeling test.
i honestly wonder how some people become mods on this forum...

 

and im not sure which injen u have but mine isnt right behind my fans. the only part of my intake close to the fans would be piping as it bends up to the second part of the cai. and wit the stock air box gone there is a huge hole where my filter is and it had all the fresh air rushing through and around it. and once again im not to sure about your car but while im moving my fans arent constantly on so your idea about that seems to be flawed. and y you i or any1 else buy a product just to prove u or any1 else wrong? give me the money to buy, custom fit this to my car, get it dyno'd just to tell you wat? that it does the same thing that your true cai set up does?

 

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see why the Injen is crap and the PR-style CAI is superior.

Downsides to the Injen intake:

1) The intake piping runs very close to the scalding hot intake manifold, then between the hot engine head and heat soaked battery, then it turns down between a 500+ degree exhaust manifold and a 200+ degree radiator where ultimately the filter resides in close proximity to the radiator fans that typically pull hot air in. Two words: heat soak

2) The filter sits very low in the chassis and is bascially unprotected from water intrusion if some idiot driver decides to cross a flooded street.

Good things about the Injen intake:

1) It looks pretty


The PR-style CAIs put the air filter in a compartment of fender and away from ALL sources of engine heat and all the piping is routed away from the hot engine. That "thin" chassis metal as you call it is quite a good buffer for heat and it never gets hot as you seem to believe. I can drive around on a 80+ degree day in stop and go traffic and then pop the hood and place my hand on the CAI piping. It's cool to the touch even though the intake manifold and very other engine component could possibly give you 1st or 2nd degree burns. My friends Injen on his 2001 Maxima will burn the crap out of your hand under the same driving conditions. The PR CAI pulls in ambient air therefore the air temp sensor and ECU get more accurate readings and can provide the motor with far better driveability, especially in hotter temps. With my OBD II scanner and the CAI, the CAI pulls in air at or right above ambient temps. My hacked airbox pulled in intake air ranging from 20-70 degrees above ambient depending on the type of driving. The difference in driveability with my PR CAI is lightyears ahead of my old hybrid/hacked air box setups. Gone is the hot weather bogginess. Even on 90 degree days the car feels powerful. I love it. As for water intrusion. The PR CAI filter sits at approximately the height of the bumper signal lights. It would take some deep water to get sucked up in there.

At the track with a cool engine and the same conditions, my car runs 14.4s@98mph with 2.2 60 foots with the CAI and 14.4s@98mph with 2.2 60 foots with the hybrid/hacked air box. The difference here is driveability. Around town the CAI is simply awesome and that's why I run it. I'm sure my car would probably go 14.4s with the Injen too, but normal driveability would be crap with all the heat soaked piping and hot air going in the motor. The other thing I like about my PR CAI is that I can yank the driving light at the track and the filter is fully open to ambient air under speed.

As for this ricer fake-intercooler intake, it's a joke. They use a peice a crap filter, a VERY thin and restrictive airbox, and a ton more piping. Intake piping length is very critical and if it's too long, it will hurt performance to a degree. This setup would have about 2-2.5' in additional piping over a PR CAI. Talk about choking.


Dave

 

hay dave im glad you like your place racing intake and liek you i have had a labtop hooked up to my car while we were trying to pull some codes from it a while back and like you and many others who seems to think differently my intake temp was not just low but while driving it was even lower then and body else car that we had tested. the owner of the obd2 software owns a bmw and he has some kinda carbon fiber piping on his intake which takes air out of the front of his car where his brake ducts are. he even thought his pc was broke while we were taking readings driving around in stop and go traffic in newark and i also gave it a good romp which didnt produce and increase in the temps of the air. if i remember right once i stomped on it the temp may have even dropped alittle.

also my filter isnt the lowest thing on my car, the splash shield is still down there and that keeps water away from my filter. my filter isnt as dirty or muddy as u may think. it looks just fine after having it through a summer, fall, spring and soon to be another summr season.

and for the ic looking intkae it isnt made for our cars, and thus maynot need anymore piping then your place racing or my injen intake. if those cars have thier tb's near he front of the car then that even reduces the amount of piping.

i dont understand how people wit so many post have such close-minded views about certain products that other people have used and have no comlaints about. my intake doesnt look prety and most people cant even see my filter from my engine bay. i still have nothin bad about people who go with the place racing intake and if u or them likes it then so be it, but dont knock my product if you dont have any real facts about it.

 

Dave B

Excatly how I feel,

I think this guy is mad because he could of bought a BETTER intake for ~$150 LESS!

 

y would i be mad...i waited to buy this intake and i passes up on the place racing one....please dont speak for me tyrexx im able to voice my own opionon.

 

I don't believe you and I'll leave it at that.

The splash shield is meaningless if you're an idoit and drive thru water. If the filter gets splashed with a little water it won't harm anything. I was just pointing out the Injen places the filter about 5" lower than the PR CAI.

Wrong. It will take a lot more piping that what the PR CAI use to locate everything to lower center of the grill.

Closed-minded? Maybe. Probably. But there is a handful of us on the Org that understand the basic principals of automotive mechanics and what we are seeing here is a joke of an intake taylored to those people wishing to have a intercooled turbo look.

I'm glad you like your Injen intake, but I think it's pure crap.


Dave

 

I forget who I was talking to, but when I was down in SoCal we were laughing about this thing...lol...