Stand off Hex Head bolts off the back of the blower to replace belt...I put it all together and forgot to put the two M6 bolts in the holes by the Pulley...I put Locktyte on those hex heads on the back and now they wont come off...are those Two top M6's that important ?? or leaving them off a bad idea ??

I almost stripped out the Hex head on one of them cause its soo tyte...I cant get them off

-matt

 

Use the allen wrenches in combo with a ratchet and a breaker bar

 

I wanna know if those two top bolts by the pulley into the timing chain are "important".,..alot of s/c setups I have seen, they are missing

-matt

 

I would use at least one. The one towards the front is the easier one to thread in or remove.

 

i cant seem to get the blower back off of the plate...for the life of me...Im almost stripping out the hex head before the bolt even moves...

right currently I have the rear one in and was looking at it and figured out that one is going to be impossible to get in...I want to switch it to the front hole but may not be able to

-matt

 

You might want to try having 2 people hold the blower while you pull like hell. Thats what I have to do, my allen wrenches wind up looking like twizzlers when I am done. Good thing I got craftsman! If those bolts came off easy that wouldnt be a good thing now would it. Now quit your Biatching and take them bolsts off

 

Cant Get Em...I heated them up with a tourch and still nothing !!! I guess I put too much locktyte on them and Ill have to do with only one of those top bolts in (the top back one) and try and get that threaded without fu**ing the threads up

id like to take the back one off and move it to the front hole

-matt

 

are you sure you have mm, cuz if u use sae it will just spin in there.

i got a set of xtra ones from stillen.

also, why did you use loc tite, i put anti sieze in mine for when the blower heats up

 

Everyone told me use Lock Tight...even in the directions it stated that...
No there not spinning, there really tight, I had them out about a week ago...

-matt

 

I took my 2 Allen wrenches with my blower and mounting plate to a local garage. They loosened the bolts for me with their air tool for nothing!

 

I had the same situation...my bolts are ptretty stripped also...I kinda used a hammer.. I used an L shaped allen key and just basically whack the key so that u would hear a crack meaning u broke the locktyte..u just have snap the locktyte loose. and it takes a awhile with patience. good luck matty. thanx for reminding me, i have to buy buy some new bolts.

 

what size were your two allen wrenches... ??

 

Actually I bought a whole set of Craftsman allen wrenches. I remember using only two wrenches for the mounting plate. I think the biggest one I used was the 5/16ths...can't remember what the other one was. Also I used Locktite 242 on the threads.

 

no way there coming off...just went down to my macanic..I used the Red Locktyte and way to much of it...we dont wanna risk breaking the bolts

-matt

 

You used the red ****? I feel your pain. I would not use loctite on those FHCS bolts that hold the blower to the plate hell sss naaah. You think thats bad. They get about that tight without the loctite. I just snug them with my hand and thats a wrap. When is time to change a belt or what ever the case may be, they are pretty hard to remove.

Guys dont use loctite on those allen bolts. Use loctite on the 10mm bolts that hold the SCer plate to the engine timing case. Thats fine to do that. And dont torque the bolts down either. Timing case is made out of alloy and will strip easily

 

Those allen head bolts are a real pain. I had a heck of a time removing mine the first time and actually stripped one on someone elses kit. Ended up drilling out the head and using a new bolt.

On my car, I think I actually used antisieze on those! I haven't had any problems YET. I would imagine it s/b safe to use some loctite by the head of the bolt only and not the threaded region at the end of the bolts... Those long bolts "twist" under torque and causing the problems removing them.

 

Locktite 242 is the blue one. I have had no problems at all taking out the bolts with this stuff.

 

Well I used the red stuff...Im F*cked...they wont come loose and im afraid to go breaking them. They ill have to drill and tap the actual blower...im an idiot

 

Before you give up Matty check this out:

Easy Locktite Removal

We use a lot of Locktite at work: RC635 (Max. Strength Retaining), 290 (Adhesive/Sealant, Wicking), 242 (Threadlocker) and 7649 primer for 518 (Gasket Eliminator). Whenever we have to remove the stuff or break something free, we cringe! We've called Locktite and asked about solvents. They claim that none exist. Heat isn't always a good solution because you can warp or break castings.

Recently, just by luck, we spilled some methyl alcohol on a fitting which had Locktite on it. The alcohol softened and then dissolved the Locktite.

Try this before hauling out the blowtorch.

Sidney in NC
tech@fireflyballoons.net

http://www.guzzitech.com/LockTite-SC.html

 

So regular rubbing alcohol or some other kind ??
Ill try and feed some in threw the cracks and let it sit over night...

-matt

 

Here's the Locktite color chart for those newbies who haven't used it before. 242 Blue is the safest to use.

http://www.humvee.net/hid/misc/locktite.html

 

Here is a writeup on methyl alcohol:

http://members.tripod.com/blackhaven22/methyl.htm

 

Will it seap down onto the Locktyte past the bolt if I put a bit around the sides and wait over night ??

 

Yeah, I would try that. Let us know tomorrow if that helps you out.

 

Thanks for all the help...The only reason to take the blower off in the future is to go to a 2.87 pulley, or change the belt if it wears out...for now im fine with 1 of 2 of those top m6 bolts in, but thanks for the heads up..Ill keep it mind for later on

-matt

 

Hey matty....any luck with the bolts?

 

I just got back from vacation so ive been fadeing away from the blower situation..I have so much work to do to get this thing in...

Im going to leave the bolts since I already have a new belt on and ill worry about it when I need a belt...I will remember the recomendations, thanks

-matt

 

keep us posted matty

 

matty if your still having a problem i just learned a new technique. i received my s/c back from vortech and the pulley bolt had a nut welded to the top of it. they said the bolt stripped and thets how they get them off the only problem is you have to get a another screw. stillen said you can get those bolts anywhere there just a basic screw. i made them saend me one next day at no charge though why should i waist my time for their mistake.i dont know why they make those holes so small when you need a lot of torque to get them off.

 

No the ones that are have too much locktyte on them are the stand off bolts on the back of the plate that hold the blower to the plate...There Allen Keys

-matt

 

yes exactly what im talking about the black screw allen type thing in the back that holds the blower. they welded a nut to the head and used a socket to get it off. i can take a pic if you need to see what im talking about. they stripped that little hole and thats how they do it they said.

 

I understand now...well im most concerned that they dont break in the blower. Then I have a mess on my hands cuase will have to get the drilled out..>NOT FUN.....I took it down to my macanic and we tried but there is one that isnt budging, and we only tried the big ones, we havent even did the small ones yet..

Im going to leave it for down the road

-matt

 

i doubt they would break those bolts are solid. stillen told me they use this technique all the time because they get a lot of jobs with stuck bolts.just weld on a nut and then you can air gun them off. they just dropped some weld on the inside corners of the nut.

 

Well I had to take my blower off to get it rebuilt again cause Vortech messed it up on the rebuild...

Had to get the bolts off...all of except one so I needed to get a bolt welded on it and took it off with a 3/4in drive...DAM* i used too much locktight..take a look



the blower is off to vortech tomorrow

-matt

 

no more lock-tite even with anti seize compund its still a b!tch to get off. good luck.