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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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Does limited slip mean non-locking?

I ask this b/c I bought a non-locking 5spd for my tranny with LSD and was wondering if they were the same. Two dealers and one yard told me they were the same. The yard who sold it to me told me that limited slip was locking.

Please which one is right? Thanks.
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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lsd = limited slip = locking

non lsd = non limited slip = non-locking
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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how can you tell what you have?
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonyklem
how can you tell what you have?
The vast majority of VE 5spds were limited-slip

Although non-lsd VE 5spds apparently existed, many of us here have never actually seen one or heard of an established example of one

Nonetheless the easiest way you can tell is if there's a "V" on the end of the transmission code on the VIN plate on the firewall
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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you could be screwed because im not sure if your axles will work with that tranny

althought the junk yard could be mistaken and it could be a lsd tranny and they just dont no it
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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thank you ver much
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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oh geez, is there another way to check if the tranny is lsd? i have a vin for the car it was pulled from. so the yard said it was non-locking, but chances are that they thought it didn't have LSD. someone at NAPA who sold me my axle told me the driver side has two splines on it, and the inside of the tranny seems to have two gears where the axle would fit. i hope i didn't buy the first non-LSD 5spd tranny in a DOHC max
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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You could ask what year maxima it came out of. If it is from a 92-94, it is going to be for a VE engine (it should still work, even if it's not VLSD), since the GXE (VG engine only) didn't come with a 5-speed during those years.

If it was from an 89-91 it is a VG tranny, since they didn't start the VE until 92..
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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it's from a 92. how can the dealers and the other yard be wrong about what's locking and non-locking (they said nonlocking=lsd)? i was just thinking the yard was mistaken.
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 05:02 AM
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A locking Dif is a type of LSD
but a LSD in not a locking Diff
Lockers are used on trucks, or cars that go straight (it basically "locks" both wheels together so that they always turn at the same speed)
an LSD by contrast, has the ability to sperate the 2 wheels automatically under certain conditions (turning)
Get the ID tag #'s off the trans you bought and someone here will tell you if you have a VLSD in yours (or at least are supposed to)
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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My car has VLSD. The question is whether or not the tranny I bought has LSD. The VIN for the car the tranny is from is JN1EJ01F9NT101617 if that helps at all. The car was dismantled long ago and the guy doesn't remember what was on the firewall. I just want to know if there's anyway to tell if locking or non-locking just by looking at the tranny and nothing else. There was a number on the tranny like "96E10".
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ghostmax
My car has VLSD. The question is whether or not the tranny I bought has LSD. The VIN for the car the tranny is from is JN1EJ01F9NT101617 if that helps at all. The car was dismantled long ago and the guy doesn't remember what was on the firewall. I just want to know if there's anyway to tell if locking or non-locking just by looking at the tranny and nothing else. There was a number on the tranny like "96E10".
I know you can call the dealer and ask for 'Parts'. If you find a guy that's nice enough and is not busy, he can tell what axle needs to go on that car just by telling him the VIN.

Better yet, call Kaleb at Courtesy Nissan in TX. The number is 1-800-527-1909. Just ask for Kaleb and tell him you're from Maxima.org. He's a really cool guy and will help you out.
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ghostmax
My car has VLSD. The question is whether or not the tranny I bought has LSD. The VIN for the car the tranny is from is JN1EJ01F9NT101617 if that helps at all. The car was dismantled long ago and the guy doesn't remember what was on the firewall. I just want to know if there's anyway to tell if locking or non-locking just by looking at the tranny and nothing else. There was a number on the tranny like "96E10".

from that vin, i'm pretty sure it's an lsd tranny....the VG vin starts with "JN1HJ01...." The VE Vin starts with "JN1EJ01..." at least from what I've seen. So i'm pretty sure, it is.
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
A locking Dif is a type of LSD
but a LSD in not a locking Diff
Lockers are used on trucks, or cars that go straight (it basically "locks" both wheels together so that they always turn at the same speed)
an LSD by contrast, has the ability to sperate the 2 wheels automatically under certain conditions (turning)
Get the ID tag #'s off the trans you bought and someone here will tell you if you have a VLSD in yours (or at least are supposed to)

I'm surprised more people don't know this. Open diff (like on the GXE tranny) lets the wheels turn completely independant of one another. LSD does exactly that - limits the amount of slip or independent movement of the wheels. Locking diff (like air lockers on rock crawlers or mud runners) does exactly what the name implies, and what Internetautomar said. Basically you can't turn if you've got a locking diff engaged in the front, and turning is pretty squirrely if you have a locking diff engaged in the rear (assuming dry pavement. it's a little better offroad, but still not easy)
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lophix
from that vin, i'm pretty sure it's an lsd tranny....the VG vin starts with "JN1HJ01...." The VE Vin starts with "JN1EJ01..." at least from what I've seen. So i'm pretty sure, it is.
Well, the only thing that you can get from his VIN is that it's a Nissan passenger vehicle (JN1), VE30DE (E), Nissan Maxima (J), and it's a 92 sedan with an airbag made in the Oppama manufacturing plant. This is coming from my 92 FSM.

So, by simply looking at the VIN, there is no way to tell if it has VLSD. But, we DO know that it's a 92 VE Maxima. And you can't tell if it has an automatic or 5spd. But, if you call the dealer, they can run the numbers and tell you everything!
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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the dealer couldn't tell me from the VIN whether or not it is VLSD. i'll know for sure this weekend when i pull my tranny and compare the two. thanks for all of your replies.
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ghostmax
the dealer couldn't tell me from the VIN whether or not it is VLSD. i'll know for sure this weekend when i pull my tranny and compare the two. thanks for all of your replies.
Really? That's wierd. Whenever I ask to order a "wierd" part (ie, VE auto VLSD ABS Axle), they tell me to just bring in the VIN and they can take care of the rest. I'm sure there is a way for the dealer to determine what axle you need. But, did you call Kaleb at Courtesy? If not, then you probably spoke to some guy that doesn't know jack about Nissans.
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by grody
I'm surprised more people don't know this. Open diff (like on the GXE tranny) lets the wheels turn completely independant of one another. LSD does exactly that - limits the amount of slip or independent movement of the wheels. Locking diff (like air lockers on rock crawlers or mud runners) does exactly what the name implies, and what Internetautomar said. Basically you can't turn if you've got a locking diff engaged in the front, and turning is pretty squirrely if you have a locking diff engaged in the rear (assuming dry pavement. it's a little better offroad, but still not easy)
Its not that hard to drive on the street. I had a mini spool in my Chevelle and a full spool in my Nova and really didnt have much of a problem. Now I wasnt taking turns at a fast speed but it was still fine just some tire squeal LOL. Wet pavement was a different story though.
Old Jul 31, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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Found out today at another dealer that the VLSD tranny has a bigger driver's axle seal as compared to the passenger. Not sure if this is definitive though, but he said that there was a difference in the circumference and showed me a non-LSD seal. Hope that helps people out.
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