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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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8" sub in old bose sub cutout

I was interested in getting a 8 inch sub and placing it where the factory bose sub goes... but i have a few question, hopefully you guys can steer me in the right direction...

1) will a kicker 8'' sub putting out 100 watts be enough power to compliment the rest of my system ( 4 infinity 6.5 on all door already amped) sounds. im not looking for earth shattering bass, just subtle bass that accents the rest of the system.
this is the sub...http://www.crutchfield.com/S-1d8KdaU...3C84&s=0&cc=01

2) i have a non-bose system should i find the bracket from a bose sub or should i make my own.

3) wouldn it be smarter to get one amp that is a 5- channel or should i keep the 4 channel and get a mono amp for the sub... i dont wanna drain any power from the car....

from all of these question the first one is the most important , thanks for your help.
Old Sep 25, 2004 | 02:39 PM
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[QUOTE=2001semax]I was interested in getting a 8 inch sub and placing it where the factory bose sub goes... but i have a few question, hopefully you guys can steer me in the right direction...

1) will a kicker 8'' sub putting out 100 watts be enough power to compliment the rest of my system ( 4 infinity 6.5 on all door already amped) sounds. im not looking for earth shattering bass, just subtle bass that accents the rest of the system.

A) YES, IT SHOULD FILL OUT THE SYSTEM NICELY AS LONG AS YOUR NOT EXPECTING EARTH SHATTERING BASS FROM IT.

2) i have a non-bose system should i find the bracket from a bose sub or should i make my own.

A) SORRY I CANNOT HELP YOU WITH THIS ANSWER, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE STEREO SET UP IN A 5TH GEN MAXIMA. HOWEVER THE FIRST THING I WOULD ATTEMPT TO FIND OUT IS HOW MUCH AIR SPACE THE ENCLOSURE FOR THE STOCK SUBWOOFER CONTAINS. THE WOOFER YOU WANT TO PURCHASE REQUIRES .5 cubic ft MINIMUM SO YOU SHOULD MAKE SURE IT HAS ATLEAST THAT MUCH VOLUME BEFORE PURCHASING THAT PARTICULAR SUBWOOFER.

3) wouldn it be smarter to get one amp that is a 5- channel or should i keep the 4 channel and get a mono amp for the sub... i dont wanna drain any power from the car....

IMHO I BELEIVE IT WOULD BE WORTH PURCHASING A 5 CHANNEL AMP TO RUN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. THATS BECAUSE I'M A FAN OF DOING LESS WORK. HOWEVER YOU ALREADY HAVE A 4 CHANNEL AMP SO THE ADDITION OF A MONO AMP MIGHT BE THE WAY TO GO INCASE YOU DECIDE TO UPGRADE TO A LARGER WOOFER IN THE FUTURE. JUST MAKE SURE WHEN YOU PURCHASE THE MONO AMP TO GET ON THAT PRODUCES ATLEAST 500w RMS OR MORE SO THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF POWER THERE FOR FUTURE UPGRADES. THE REASON I SAY THIS IS BECAUSE MOST OF THE 5 CHANNEL AMP'S I'VE USED OR SEEN GENERALLY DON'T PRODUCE MORE THEN 300w RMS @ 4ohms. GRANTED THATS PLENTY OF POWER, BUT I'M STINGY.....
Old Sep 25, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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thank you very much for your input , since im putting in the 8'' sub free air will it still sounds good..?
Old Sep 25, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 2001semax
thank you very much for your input , since im putting in the 8'' sub free air will it still sounds good..?
Well that particular subs isn't design to work as a free air sub would. You could damage the subwoofer if it's not properly used (needs an enclosure). So I have to say not, you will want to build a enclosure for it.

These are more like what you need they are free air compatible. Notice the amount of power they handle, this is because free air requires additional power to produce decent sound.
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=14423

heres alittle info that might help you with your install. Good luck!
http://ccs.exl.info/subs.html
Old Sep 25, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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These are more like what you need they are free air compatible. Notice the amount of power they handle, this is because free air requires additional power to produce decent sound.
Isn't it the other way around? It doesn't take a lot for a free air sub to reach its limit without a cushion of air controling it like a sub would find if it was in an enclosure. (correct me if i'm wrong tho)
Old Sep 26, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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Isn't it the other way around? It doesn't take a lot for a free air sub to reach its limit without a cushion of air controling it like a sub would find if it was in an enclosure. (correct me if i'm wrong tho)
You are correct. On the other hand, they don't play as loud since there is no interaction from an enclosure. In the home theater world, a since 12" in a ported box gets loud enough for most people. When they switch to an infinite baffle (free air) setup, it usually take dual, quad or more 15's to reach the same SPL. On the other hand there is no box coloring the sound. It's supposedly the cleanest bass you will ever hear. Reading at The Cult has convinced me to go IB in my theater. I've got four 15" TC Sounds subs just waiting on cooler weather so I can get in the attic.

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Old Sep 26, 2004 | 11:03 AM
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I am thinking about doing the same thing that you are doing. I have a 2K with the bose and have looked at the way the system is set up.... The sub in the back is mounted in the rear deck facing up. I have found that rear passengers complain about the sub b/c if you are listening to something with bass, you can hear it fine up front but back passengers only hear the bass since the sub is right behind their head. Also the bose sub is a free-air sub which opens up the complaints of rattles and a "muddy" bass tone. I too looked at the kicker 8" solobarics b/c they look like they would fit perfectly. The prob with kicker is they are not free air. I found that the infiniti 10" sub is free air. It can run up to 175W RMS which is more than enough. I am thinking myself of running a 5-channel amp with a component set up front, 6.5's in the rear doors, a small free-air sub in the rear, and a set of 5.25's (running off the HU) mounted on the rear deck next to the sub to try and clean up the rear. This would require me to gut my entire system and start from scratch, but it may be worth it. The rear deck WILL rattle so I am thinking that the area around the sub should be reinforced and mounted into some MDF board and the entire rear deck be laced in dynamat. The biggest thing to me is no rattles and a clear sound, I may even simply start with a new HU and try to silence the rear deck and see how much that helps before I plop down a good bit of $$. I hope my rambling helps or at least gives you another viewpoint.
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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I have a 5 channel amp and a mono amp. I like the way my subs sound hooked up to my mono amp better. I have about 300watts unassigned sitting in my trunk...time for more 10's?
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