Hey , im looking for a new cat back ? i like a kinda growling sound , but i also want a little bit of japanese thrown in it. What would be a better buy ? I hear the Greddy is louder, but im putting a y pipe on soon, so how loud would that make the APEX'i? I also want some rumble when im sitting at lights , and starting off the line.If anyone had any pics or the Apex on a max, id love to see them , my friend had a Greddy on his max, it sounded really good, pretty loud too, im after a good somewhat loud noice , but nothing that will blow the windows off of people when im cruising , or annoy me on the highyway. Its a pain in the *** trying to decide , i need HELP !!!!