14.308 @ 94.25 with a stock ECU!

Since my 14.57, I've removed another 150lbs, put on rear skinnies, setup a variable intake system, fabbed up spacers to the upper intake and throttle body, bored the TB to 63.5mm, ported the exhaust manifolds, and raised the rear and zip tied the front of the car.

My best 60' use to be 2.17. Now it's 2.08.

60' 2.089
330' 5.910
1/8 9.121 @ 75.60
1000' 11.929
1/4 14.308 @ 94.25

It was 74 degrees, 45% hum, 29.79" on the barometer and a 7 mph left to right cross wind. The air density altitude was 1342 feet above sea level. Last time, I did 14.57 in California, it was 1200 feet above sea level. But in my experience, the track at Moroso is about 2 tenths slower for no reason.

I heated up my drag radials sufficiently and I still spun them badly when I did the 2.08. On my first run, I stalled it up to 2800 rpm, but I spun worse and did a 2.35 60'. I did my 2.08 by launching right off of idle.

I weighed my car while still in 100% track mode and got 2890lbs. Not too shabby considering my 'weighed in' stock weight is exactly 3300lbs! I calculated my track weight to be 2930lbs, but I was a little off.

All in all, it was a good night. 14.3 is the best I could have hoped for on this normal FL night at a horrible track. Isn't the record for the fastest NA VE around a 14.3, set by Bryan H? Has anybody posted anything better than a 14.3 with any NA VE Maxima?

 

im jealous

 

thats a good time for a NA max. Good job Aaron

 

Ba..My VG can do that on half the cylinders. j/k But those are freakin great times. Is this the last run before boost?

 

I don't know. I know it will be my last run for this "winter". I was hoping to have my ECU tuned before the weather starts warming up, but I had to race with the stock ECU. I still have to build up my tranmission, raise the stall some more and do some other stuff to put more HP to the ground and beef up the drivetrain in preperation for boost. But, sometime this summer, I will have the ECU tuned and will have a built tranny (which puts more hp to the ground due to tighter clearances and the ability to lock up the torque converter). I will probably race again in track mode with the ECU and new tranny. I might be able to beat the 14.3 with those mods if I can race on a decent night that is 80 degrees or less. Other than that, you shouldn't see many more NA times from me. It's still possible that you'll see an all motor high 13 second run from me in the future.

 

Good job dude, 14.3 is nuts for a N/A Auto with no internal mods whatsoever.

Good job, we miss not having you out here.

 

Your gonna have to get some mini videos going.

Awesome times Aaron.

 

Yeah, I really wanted to make a video. It's SO much work for me to make it to the track and try to bust a record time b/c I have to swap tires and crap. Hopefully, next time I'm at the track attempting a new record, I will make sure I have a camera.

Thanks Donald. Remember, I don't even have my ECU tuned yet! That's good for atleast 10hp right there. I will be able to make myself a race fuel program too to make even more power at the track. Just gotta get the system working in my car and I will be in business.

 

brb, I'll go fetch a 13 for you to catch up to

 

That means nothing to me until you actually do bust 13s NA. Go out and do it and then come talk to me. lol

 

Why don't you come down to Woodburn in June and put your money where your mouth is?

Even though it won't be an NIC2, there will still be racing going on...

I think we have about 4-5 Maximas already lined up. You and Anton need to cruise on down here.

 

Wow Aaron, nice times, killer 60'.

And auto ... Sweet ... Congrats.

 

Heh... Even I'd be sorta hesitant to go up against ya.just sorta Good thing I drove your car with all the mods once before. heh. I was truely impressed with how it ran.
Want me to send down the JWT ecu for the day?? heheheheheheheehehehehe

 

with alittle determination 13s NA could happen but with the money you would spend going 13.99 NA why not spend it "somewhere else" and go 12.99 or faster

either way your car is still fast

 

Mail me your tires

I'll put up a high 13

 

that's good. props to you.

 

It's so much better to open your hood and not seeing any "atomospheric enhancers"

 

Not to rain on your parade, but I know of a 13-second Dodge Caravan (factory-aspirated, street legal, 4-cylinder). Do a "google" on Gus Mahon (R.I.P.).

/used to own several minivans

 

Buahaha factory aspirated. What does that mean????? I think everyone knows about the 12-13 sec turbo minivan.

 

oh yeah i read all about those things talk about one hell of a sleeper theres acually 2 of them with 12 second slips and another 2 in the 13s heres a link

http://www.turbominivan.com/ontheweb.htm

 

**** i wish i had some tires to mail yeah. i havnt had drag radials on the car for 6 months because they only last like 4000 miles. ive got to get some real slicks and just keep them in the trunk for the ocational use so they last alittle longer than 4-5 months. plus the drag radials still wouldnt hold a 5k clutch drop in 1st and forget about 1st with spray they would barly hold second but if i could just keep the trans together long enough to get to the track last year it was 1st gear and i just lost 3rd TODAY and i was just driving normal but i figure it got abused alot since its my favorite gear with bttl but what can i expect from junkyard transmissions with unknown milage

 

nice, good job aaron

 

Don't worry, I am not going to dump a lot of money into stuff that will just shave another tenth. I am in the process of getting my transmission built to hold the more power I want to put through it. I am going turbo soon, but I want to do it right the first time. I know the tranny is the weak link in the drive train, so once I beef that up, I will be able to turn the boost up without worries for my tranny. All I need to focus on is traction and not blowing the motor.

But, I agree, 13s are very possible if I just get better weather at a better track.

 

BTW: nice job, Aaron.

 

I wanna know what all you got that I don't have... the only thing you have that I don't, that I know about,is a ported and polished manifold/TB and ported heads(or headers i forget what you did), and suspension, my suspenions sucks, ...how you get your auto so fast aaron?

 

I am very sure I have a LOT that you don't have. There is a lot of stuff that I had to custom make or do myself. Look on my website. I keep it updated very well. I just haven't had a chance to update it since my 14.30.

I've shaved 410 lbs from my car from stock. Have you? I've also have a high stall torque converter and good tires with the ability to cut a great 60 foot. A cutout always helps exhaust flow. My track intake setup always help flow too.

 

that is great work aaron i give all the props!! i will have to check your site and to see what all you have done but otherwise i give the props.

 

you still have no topend whatso ever!
i ran a 14.3 @ 98 mph.

see, all you have to do is ask, and i'll give ya advice on what i remember.
then again, i didn't port the exhaust manifolds, or strap the front end down, or skinnies. or drag radials, and a jwt ecu
blah blah blah, you get the idea
congrats man
get a torque convertor with a higher stall, or a higher flash, and slicks, air them down to about 12 psi, and hold on.

there are a couple things i could tell ya to help out, but those will cost you.

 

Auto. 5spd. Big difference.

 

Actually, I already have a high stall torque converter, 23" DRs and I still can't launch at 3K like I want. I have to get slicks.

And I have PLENTY of top end. That's really all the power that I do have. But you forget that I may be making the same power as your VE 5spd did, but the VE 5spd has gearing that is perfect for the 1/4 mile. You top out 3rd gear as you are going through the traps. I have an insanely long 3rd gear and 1st and 2nd are perfect. Look at my 1/8 mile time. Not many people that run 14.3s in the 1/4 mile can touch that half track time.

I'm not going to touch a JWT ECU. I have other plans with the ZEMulator. If you look at my mods list on my website, you will see all that I've done to my car. If you don't mind, if you notice anything that I haven't already done, please let me know. I am very interested in any crazy OR costly ideas you may have. I am about to dump more than $2500 into my transmission. If I think the mod is beneficial enough, I will spend the money. Right now, cams aren't beneficial, so that's why I'm not considering them right now. For the same money, I can have most of my turbo kit pieced together.

 

do some more home porting.

just take some time and look at the motor and think to yourself "what can i do to make it faster"
experiment

thats what i did in the begining.

or just turbo it and be happy

dunno, just thinking
carry on!

 

Yeah, that's what I've been doing since day one. Once I get my welder, I saw that I can make my stock exhaust manifolds even better. I was scared to port too much b/c they were welded from the inside and it impedes in the airflow. Well, I need to just weld it from the outside, then I can go port crazy and match those ports to the ports on the heads. I can remove a LOT of material. If my cutout helped and a Ypipe helped so much, I'm sure this porting will help a little.

Other than that, I can cut door beams like you. I can also rip out the PS system and AC system and mill off my UDP to get rid of the AC part of the pulley. It's all been done before.

 

do what you have to do, but remember, can you undo it if you screw up?
the stock manifolds will never flow as much as tuned headers. they were never designed too.
how about doing a 5spd swap and shave the 3 tenths off you need to hit 13's?

try a larger plug gap
hotter plugs
msd ignition?
move the battery to the back, run the air filter out the front of the car {IE remove the headlight} have you done an a/f pull on a dyno to see where you could do some tweaking at?
110 octane

im giving you free hints here homie

 

What box?

 

my guess would be a dis-4 or higher
then you could have a two step {for the 5spd kids}
and some other goodies
i say spray a 75 shot to it and have a ball

 

The one box I know nothing about

 

ahhh, you suck again!

 

ah the dreaded 110 octane rears it's head again.

How's it going Bryan?

 

dreaded?
how so?
it worked wonders in my car, just never mixed right with 92 octane to do anything while i was at the track.

then again
most people aren't balsy enough to try it anyways

 

last thing you want to do for a FWD drag car is to move the battery to the trunk.. you want as much weight % as possible over the front wheels to help with traction. for a road course, that's totally different story.