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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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VQ30DET intake mani., anyone got one?

Hey,
I posted this in the NA forum but should have put it here perhaps:

Anyone got an intake manifold from a VQ30DET? I saw a pic. of a maxima with one on it here: http://maxima.dynomagic.com/thefast_others.htm

I'd like to buy one if anyone can help me find one.

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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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http://performancenissanparts.com/ Can get a lot of the parts from the VQ30DET. However, I spoke with them about getting some parts off a VQ30DET, and they were completely and utterly useless. If you see other than their view, and their unproveable bullsh**, you are therefore wrong, and should be killed immediantly. Sorry, but between them and 3 other companies, my turbo-I30 project has been shut down. I'm tired of being sh*t upon.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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I know you can buy a whole VQ30DET engine for like $1000 -$1100. Getting just the IM would be a little more tricky. It was TILLEYS99 that put everything from the DET onto the FWD block. He might be able to help you too. You do realize you will need a custom hood to clear the IM.

I am considering using the exhaust manifolds since they would make turbo piping less complex for the up pipes, but I am not sure how I am going to be able to get my hands on a set of them without buying the whole motor. I am not sure if the 350Z ones would fit or if they have precats in them.
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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I'm wondering if the DET timing cover is substantially different. I imagine it doesn't have motor mount holes in it and could have all the coolant stuff but the important parts for me are the areas that concern the SC bracket. Also, does the DET have symetrical VC's? How much you guys think it would be for a full DET front clip with tranny? I remember one on ebay a while ago with the rear suspension.
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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You wouldn't need the front clip. I wouldn't see any need for anything besides engine and maybe tranny (if you were swapping it in something else). You can use a maxima wiring harness and ecu.

The best way to do a DET swap into a maxima would be to have someone take everything from the DET and put it in the FWD block with the FWD timing cover unless it would be somehow easier to adapt that motor to a FWD configuration. I think that is what Tilley did. You might want to ask him.

I don't see why you would want to SC a DET motor. There is really no reason to have anything but maybe the IM. The stock VQ handles anything the SC will put out and more.
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by h2kSPiG

I don't see why you would want to SC a DET motor. There is really no reason to have anything but maybe the IM. The stock VQ handles anything the SC will put out and more.

I would be interested in getting my hands on the internals and then upgrading my blower to a T-trim. 20 psi SC'd max would be some kinda fun
Old Apr 26, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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Yeah if you could get some kind of blower that was crazy, but the normal VQ has been shown to handle quite a bit of boost if tuned correctly and the air temp is kept down. I know 18psi has been done before on stock motor. Anything beyond that is experimenting.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by h2kSPiG
I know you can buy a whole VQ30DET engine for like $1000 -$1100. Getting just the IM would be a little more tricky. It was TILLEYS99 that put everything from the DET onto the FWD block. He might be able to help you too. You do realize you will need a custom hood to clear the IM.

I am considering using the exhaust manifolds since they would make turbo piping less complex for the up pipes, but I am not sure how I am going to be able to get my hands on a set of them without buying the whole motor. I am not sure if the 350Z ones would fit or if they have precats in them.
I tried that already. The 350z nismo headers come into clearance issues with the motor mounts. Too bad the DET stuff is so rare and hard to come by
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by h2kSPiG
Yeah if you could get some kind of blower that was crazy, but the normal VQ has been shown to handle quite a bit of boost if tuned correctly and the air temp is kept down. I know 18psi has been done before on stock motor. Anything beyond that is experimenting.

Well then. I i am thinking of a nice little summer project . Can you say T trim blower with say 16psi and intercooled
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Larrio
I tried that already. The 350z nismo headers come into clearance issues with the motor mounts. Too bad the DET stuff is so rare and hard to come by

Larry, where would be some good places to start looking for DET stuff?
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:58 AM
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Thats my car in those pics If your interested in the IM let me know i may let it go.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by h2kSPiG
You wouldn't need the front clip. I wouldn't see any need for anything besides engine and maybe tranny (if you were swapping it in something else). You can use a maxima wiring harness and ecu.

The best way to do a DET swap into a maxima would be to have someone take everything from the DET and put it in the FWD block with the FWD timing cover unless it would be somehow easier to adapt that motor to a FWD configuration. I think that is what Tilley did. You might want to ask him.

I don't see why you would want to SC a DET motor. There is really no reason to have anything but maybe the IM. The stock VQ handles anything the SC will put out and more.
I wasn't thinking of putting the DET into a maxima. I was thinking of putting the DE into a 240 and keeping the blower. For a moment I was thinking of a full 30DET but there is no point when I already have so much of the cool things for this beast motor. This would necessitate a very similar timing cover. This is only of course if my car goes down as stolen(Wierd situation with my mother.)

If I go through with this I'm gonna get the things required to run a VQ in a 240. I could use the max as a parts car by taking the wiring, ECU, radiator, etc... At this point the only DET specific thing I'd need would be the IM. Or I could fab one. It'd be nice to have symetrical VC's but it appears the DET doesn't even have those; just plastic symetric pieces? I'm thinking I could use an oil pan and tranny from a 350. Aside from the coolant log stuck back there on the firewall its all butter.

Tilley, I'm interested in the IM but need a ballpark. Do you have any other parts from the DET left? Can you confirm if the VC's are symetrical or not?
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Broaner
I wasn't thinking of putting the DET into a maxima. I was thinking of putting the DE into a 240 and keeping the blower. For a moment I was thinking of a full 30DET but there is no point when I already have so much of the cool things for this beast motor. This would necessitate a very similar timing cover. This is only of course if my car goes down as stolen(Wierd situation with my mother.)

If I go through with this I'm gonna get the things required to run a VQ in a 240. I could use the max as a parts car by taking the wiring, ECU, radiator, etc... At this point the only DET specific thing I'd need would be the IM. Or I could fab one. It'd be nice to have symetrical VC's but it appears the DET doesn't even have those; just plastic symetric pieces? I'm thinking I could use an oil pan and tranny from a 350. Aside from the coolant log stuck back there on the firewall its all butter.

Tilley, I'm interested in the IM but need a ballpark. Do you have any other parts from the DET left? Can you confirm if the VC's are symetrical or not?

I would say use the det motor in the 240sx since its RWD. Now that would be bad a$$
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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Of course I was planning on making it rear drive. People would flip and it would be a torque monster. Now that is what drifting takes. I never understand how these guys drift so well if they have turbo lag to deal with. I know the advancments have reduced it alot but its still there. A boost/rpm like a centrifugal on an already torque monster would be awesome.
Old Apr 27, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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I'm a step ahead of ya. Using a 97 VQ30DE though.
http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...b=5&o=&fpart=1

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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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If you want to keep it turbo then of course just get the DET motor and more or less drop it in. I would recommend this becuase it has a huge potential for power. If our motors can handle 18psi+ and 500hp+ then I know a low compression, turbo designed VQ would be a monster.

If you want to SC then I don't think it would be too hard to make the regular VQ30 fit in a RWD application. I know that guy put one in an older RX-7. You could always do the opposite of what Tilley did. You could take everything out of the VQ30DE or DE-K and put it on the DET block. It might be easier just to work around the motor mounts and coolant passages but just throwing it out there.
Old Apr 28, 2005 | 06:51 AM
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Dude, allen that is my exact idea. Bastard got to it first. J/K. I only worry about being able to place it close to the firewall because of the coolant log and TB placement. The TB placement wouldn't be a biggy for me because it would be easy to reroute the hardlines for the brakes and cut away at the top of the firewall into the wiper linkage area. But it seems the shifter position is the main issue. How are you shortening it?
Old Apr 28, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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But it seems the shifter position is the main issue. How are you shortening it?
Not sure yet, have to get it sat down in place first and see exactly how far rearward it really is. The placement is all gonna depend on how the oil pan sets in relation to the crossmember, I'd like to leave the crossmember unmodified if possible.

Hadn't thought about cutting the upper firewall for the TB, that may be a feasible idea for me too. Don't want to loose the wipers though.


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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 05:34 AM
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Wait, you want to do a stillen SC on a vq30det? How come?
Old Apr 29, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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I don't have wipers now so that wasn't a concern for me. Why'd you ditch the custom UIM? Just add a scope to the hood for clearance. It wouldn't need to be a monster scoop to accomodate

No, I was thinking of doing a SC on a hybrid DE/DET. I wanted to use as much of my current motor as possible for obvious price benefit. I seems like the only absolutely required piece would be the oil pan for the starter issue. The DET IM would be nice but not required. If the OEM motor mounts couldn't be used I'd fab my own. But this was all thought. It seems like I'm keeping the Max for a while.
Old Apr 29, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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What do you do when it rains? Use a lot of Rain-X?

I ditched the custom IM because I thought I wouldn't have enough hood clearance and I really don't want to mess w/ a hood scoop. I'm going to wait until I get the engine mounted next week thought then measure the actual clearance to be sure.

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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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This is a hobby car. I don't drive it when its raining or snowing but in case, I do use Rain-x. In the month that I've been driving since not having the wipers I've only gotten stuck in rain twice. I also have my front tires mounted in the reverse direction because my camber wore them down on the inside. Rather than drop $300 on two new tires I swap 'em around for $12/rim. The result is hydro-plane city in any standing water.
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Sounds safe lol. Hope you don't get caught in any surprise storms on the freeway.
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Its very safe on the highway. I have no problem seeing at those speeds. Both times I've been caught in the rain it was at night in the city. The glare on the raindrops on the windsheild is what makes it tough. Freak storms don't really blow up around here. I'm constantly checking the weather. But it must be understood that I simply don't drive it when weather is threatening.
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