Hello,
I recently got a 92 se that supposedly needed a new injector. I took it to a mechanic and he confirmed that one of the injectors is stuck open and severely dumps fuel into the cylinder. After I picked up the car from him it had the plugs removed for more then 24 hours so I assumed all the gas in the cylinder was gone. I put in all the plugs and cranced it. I heard a "bang" noise and the engine stoppped cranking. I removed all the plugs and cranked it until it stoppped shooting gas from the cylinder. I changed the faulty injector and put the engine back togather. I crancked again and car started without a problem but running rough. It ran for a few minutes and it stopped. After I cranked it once again I heard the "bang" sound again and it stopped. I thought that there is another flooded cylinder so I removed all the plugs again but they were all dry. The engine never cranked again. Even when I put it in gear and push the car I can't even "turn it over". It's pretty much locked and I don't know why. There was oil in it and everything. I am guessing that a piece broke down and got stuck somewhere. Has anybody been in a similar situation? Any thoughts or ideas will be great. Thank you in advance!

92 SE 5spd

 

do you have a lemon law in your state. Because you bought a lemon!

 

Have had starters to jam, but really doesnt sound like it. If suspect, take it off.

Try turning it ccw from belt, or from crank bolt with a wrench - or push it backwards while 5th gear on.

Next would be opening and verifying that cams rotate... And last oilpan off and getting crankcase view. U have VE =chain in there? Maybe its arrived the end of chain...

 

i removed the starter but it wouldn't make a difference. I tried the crank bolt as well, but couldn't turn it over. I guess I am looking for a new engine...damn

 

Seems that youre taking the current engine off and looking deep inside into it... its fairly possible to find smtg which is cost effective to repair. Lets hope so.

 

i dunno man..that sounds pretty bad. how logn ago did you get it? I'd suggest you have someone take a look at it to see. Shouldn't cost more that $50 for a "pro-diagnosis". Once that's done, you know where you stand. For some reason, "pre-ignition" keeps coming to mind (I'm not too savvy in the aspect of motors)

 

I got the car a week ago. What do you mean by "pre-ignition"?

 

a week ago? i'd be more inclined to try to work something out with the pre-owner, or take it back if it wasn't disclosed that it had a problem.
By pre-ignition, i mean premature ignition (i have no idea if such a thing exists as I'm not familiar with motors) However, it just seems that the concept of the chamber being flooded with gas + air + a spark could result in a relatively large bang possibly damaging something. Maybe a compression test might tell more? (Is this done with the car running or off??)
Again, I'm probably talking out of my **** here.

 

No crank, no compression, no tst. Youre right, Pre ign has a potential to destroy engine, but so has lots many issues. I dont know your laws, but here after u buy, youre on your own.

The other day I sold my RV and gave the man warranty for 400km, home trip. Now on the way his engine starts boiling and he does not know to handle: gets oil leak. Possible head warp... Now who is responsible? I say this guy sucks, he says money back. Well, I sent money back, but there was no legal bind for me to do so. What I try to explain: its very hard to know who is responsible; "any engine" may xplode "anytime" regardless of persons... Easier to gulp and take the wrench and start diggin. I am able to erroneusly destroy my MT engine in no time; just one over rpm and there she goes.

 

Again, I'm probably talking out of my **** here.[/QUOTE]


but really dude, you bought a car with the spark plugs removed! and didn't find/fix the problem. Its really your fault, I'm sorry to say.

 

sounds like you "water locked'' the engine with fuel. what happens is its just like sucking water up your intake. maybe you had so much fuel in there that it went to compress it and it just locked up the motor especially if the car had been sitting for a while and had water in the fuel. Or maybe the fuel did not evaporate with the plugs being out but instead leaked past the rings got in your oil and locked it up like that or spun a rod/crank bearing. take it to nissan have them check it out.

 

that would most likely mean you have to tow it to the dealership = $$$ not to mention return towing. Like Wiking says, you can either tear into it, get a new motor and replace, or try and have the pre-owner help you out somehow..whatever route you go, good luck.

 

I hope you got a really good deal on it. If the engine is flucked, at least you won't be out a ton of cash. If you paid less than $1k and put another $2k into swapping in a JDM, you will have a good running, driving VE 5-speed for $3k, which is a pretty reasonable price.

Unless you know a mechanic that will come to your house, it would probably cost several hundred bucks to have it towed to a shop that will look at it.

 

depending on how long that injector was stuck open it may have contaminated the oil with gasoline which will ruin the bearings (been there, done that).
pull the dipstick and see if it smells like gas.
if it does, you'll need bearings at a minimum.
but at this point if I were you I'd start looking for another motor.

 

since all plugs werent in when he cranked it, and there was alot of fuel in the cylinder, maybe he broke a crankshaft, then locked the motor up. possible???

 

The fuel would have been pushed out of the engine via the spark plug hole.

 

think im stickin with internetautomart on this one, ill also add if the plugs were out for any length of time who knows what crawled in and died.

 

I've got a schister lawyer's phone # here in Raleigh. They must have some sort of elcheapo lawers network. Get yer $$$ back man. With the problems this motor has, G-d only knows about the electrical system, the tranny, ect, ect.

 

in these engines the crankshaft would be the LAST thing to break

i just dont understand how it did start and run for a few minuits and then just die and be locked up

did it sound like it was running fine besides the roughness

if it died and you pulled the plugs and they were all dry it didnt hydro lock

and if the bearings were getting tore up i think it would have started to knock before it locked up

id drop the trans first and make sure its not fuced up but its proboly engine related

 

what a litigious society we live in.

ANYONE who buys a non-running car, should have no legal recourse whatsoever agaist the previous owner unless there is paperwork stating that the car can run.
I've bought a few cars like this, it's a risk you take when you buy a used car.
CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!

BTW it'll probably cost him more in legal fees than the car's cost.

 

Sorry I don't have any useful information to post, but apparently neither does this guy above. I just wanted to point out that if you actually read the post, he didnt buy the car with the spark plugs removed...that was after he took it to a mechanic which was AFTER he bought it. Its just annoying that when someone is looking for help on here, some people feel the need to post useless criticism (not constructive) and nothing more... which in this case backfired on the dude and now its his fault he looks like an idge...

 

well, I can't really sell the car for at least another month now since I don't have the title yet. Yesterday I made up my mind to take the engine apart and see if I can find the problem. But, today(after a good night sleep) I thought that whatever is wrong the chances are that it's big and will cost good amount of money to fix. Plus all the new gaskets I'll need and the head bolts and ect. I found a used engine for $585 with 100k on it that was running "good" before removal. I think I'll go this way..Thank you all for the info. How the engine locked is a mistery for me as well. I have no hard feeling for the guy that sold it to me since I knew the engine was not running. I took it to a mechanic and he confirmed what the owner told me-stuck injector. Too bad things didn't get better after I changed it....I paid $1150 for it. It has brand new pearl white paint as well as many(i mean a lot) new parts plus a black leather in almost perfect condition. I am happy. Thanks once again...

 

OK, I found an engine with 48k for $585. How can I tell by the vin if it's jdm or us? Is it even possible? Thanks

 

Hey not too bad that (!) price: and still got 300$ worth spares to use in the current engine...

 

it may have also locked up from not enough oikl or something too.