I own a 2001 Max and hate it. I've owned so many other cars that I would rather be driving. How much different is the 4th gen performance wise than a 5th gen. Besides the motor, horsepower, torque etc. Is the 5-Speed the same as the 2000's? How easy is it to truely unlease the power of the VQ30? Such as turbos etc. Also main thing, handling... The 5th gen's handling is nothing special even with aftermarket susp. Is the 4th gen lighter or set up different such as the rear beam? Im sorry for all the basic stupid questions, but the main thing is is this smart going from a 2001 Auto to a 99 5 spd? Or would yhall call me a moron. I always have loved the looks of 4th gens and envy my friends moded 99 SE.

Thanks in advance
And sorry for the newbie questions,
Alec

 

Find a AE 5speed and call it a day. I would not get a 4th gen...

 

The literature is out there on this forum and beyond. It would be a downgrade in many ways. But it also depends on your future plans.

They're about the same stock for stock .. with the 5th gen putting better power and pulling ahrder after 70 mph or so due to it's superior powerband.

In what sense? If you mean the tranny in particular--->Gear ratios, yes, mechanical reliability, no, the 2001 is stronger, particularly 3rd gear.

Depends on how much money your willing to spend.

They both have the same, almost identical suspension, but a slight advantage for the 4th gen being slightly lighter, but not by much.

No, not at all, espeically not a 99 ...

Close ...

If you plan on making it a 1/4 mile beast ... go 4th gen, it's lighter and has the capability for a 3.5L, or there's always F/I options for either the 3.0L and 3.5L ... once again, this is dependent on your willingness to spend $$ and how much ...

 

He has the option for the VQ35 too, remember that. That is the chassis it started in for the Maxima

 

this man knows his stuff.

4th gen - but im biased. It is nicer for FI options as stated.

 

im with you man ... the 4th gen looks hotter than the 5th gen ... in certain ways the 5th gen looks better than the 4th..but you have to spend a lil dough to make it look better .... the 4th gen interior is MUCH hotter than the 5th gen, thats only in my opinion ... my suggestion: take a look at some hot 4th gen int./ext. pics and then compare them to some hot 5th gen int./ext. pics....there are some seriously hot 4th gens .... a 5 speed 99 will probably beat an 01 automatic....it would be close....but with stick, your a full second faster! .... the 4th gen is a few hundred pounds lighter for sure......the 4th gen motor has 190bhp and the 5th gen has 222...they are both vq30's......basically the same motor .... now the 02' has 255 horse which you probably allready know .... all for now

 

If i recall correctly someone recently ripped apart a 5th gen tranni and third gear was the same weight/thickness as the fourth gen, which led most of us to believe it was pretty much the same.

 

im going to say that a 4th gen is a step down from a 5th gen. u have the vi, more mods out for u, and u have way better body kits. i would stay with a 5th gen

 

I'd go 5.5 gen with a 6 speed trans. What about that option?

 

The 4Gen is a nice car. I'm not sure how much of a step down a 4th gen is to a 5th gen but for me, the 4th Gen has more leg and head room in it. I've driven the early 5th Gens and they didn't feel as powerful in the low end as my car but I have gotten beaten by them at the track near the end of the track. This is when I was stock though.

Personally, I feel the 4th Gen is a better car if you don't care about the car being a newer model.

 

i agree with deezo. the weight difference does it for me, and the looks. if your going to get a 4th gen, i would try and find a 5spd 95-96 with low miles. they are the fastest stock.

 

I have both (well, the 5th gen is actually my wife's car) and I have always enjoyed the feel of the 4th gen over the 5th gen, even before I started doing any mods to my 95. It feels lighter and nimbler.

 

Synchros ......

I have a 4th gen and 5.5g, and the 4th gen feels better controlled, maybe due to my suspsension mods, or the weight, or a combonation of the 2.

My 5.5g for obvious resons feels quite a bit more powerful .. bit I like the throttle response and tachometer accuracy of my 4th gen better.



I love the 4th gen and 5.5g, I don't really like the 5th gen (00-01) .. but I'm weird.

Cannot go wrong w/ a VI'd VQ30, a DEK, or a VQ35 ... IMO .

 

what do you mean by synchros? that doesnt have to do with the strenght of a gear. oh you mean they last longer?

 

:attention
I love the 4th gen and 5.5g, I don't really like the 5th gen (00-01) .. but I'm weird.

 

Do you know what synchros are?

 

5th gen is also an extra 700 lbs if i recall correctly......

 

yes i know what synchros are, they are there to make it so that you do not have to double clutch every down shift. although, learning to double clutch well is important so that you do not need to change these often or your clutch. (you have to rev match to double clutch)

 

There's a Viper Blue 5th gen with a Stillen body kit and S/C kit around my area. It's sick.

 

is he on maxima.org? got any pics? never seen a 5th gen custom painted that color

 

Are you saure you didn't mistype that? 700 lbs is a stretch.

I'd say 2-300.


That's not their purpose but ok.

 

I would say its isnt that much of a step down to go 5g to 4g. A 4g with 00Vi and normal bolts ons will feel like a beast. I'd say trade for a 2k2 6speed.

 

okay, well good to know from the guy with two autos. if you have manual, and say synchros go on second gear, you cant just put the stick in second gear gate and 45. you need to manually match the rpm. sychro, as in synchronize. it may not be the mechanics term, but thats what they do.

 

Honostly I think the 5th gen is ugly. Absolutely ugly, I wouldn't own one. The 4th gen is considerably lighter, and if you drive the two (back to back) you notice the difference in ride. As far as power is concerned, there not very different- but you would have better results with a VQ35 in a 4th gen then in a 5th gen simply because of the weight issue.

And yeah, 4th gens are by far sexier.

 

Just because I have 2 autos doesn't mean I don't know about a manual transmission, especially that of a 4th generation Maxima.

To be specific, I misinformed everyone by stating that 3rd gear specifically was the weak link in the 4th gen transmission, when I should've stated the synchros were.

Now, do you want to re-invnet the wheel and talk about the specifics of synchros, or call it good?

 

man you've really been in attack mode lately, whats your problem?

 

Obviously in need of testosterone relief, lol!

 

i did a comparison of a 96 and 00. here is the stuff i thought to be important.

Weight
96=3,000
00=3,193
Power to weight ratios. (hp or tq divided by weight *10)
HP
96= 0.63
00'=0.69

TQ
96=0.68
00'=0.67

coefficient of drag
96=0.31
00=0.32

0-60 + 1/4 mile
96=6.6 + 15.2
00=7.0 + 15.6
^(both se trim)

 

im getting really tired of waking up so early

 

I'm not familiar with those units ...


Then don't.

 

Well dont take it out on people on the org. All this time you spend responding back and getting attitudes is time you could be spending sleeping.

Talk about misplaces frustration. sheesh

 

oh yeah, sorry. i changed the order/added more stuff. those are power weight ratios. since hp is dependant on tq/rpm i did hp and tq.

 

i cant sleep i am at work. it is really slow here and there is nothing to do. i do data entry in euro dollar options. when the market is slow, so is my job. but i still get 400 a week.

 

Thats nice, just correct your attidute and all will be fine, this is the 3rd day in a row your on here and picking at someone.

 

no second. and the other days were uncalled for, but not started by me.

 

[QUOTE=NmexMAX]Are you saure you didn't mistype that? 700 lbs is a stretch.

I'd say 2-300.




He might be thinking of the 600+ lb ifference between the 5th and 6th gens..

 

I'm sure you see my point

 

[QUOTE=NY 95 VQ30DE]Even that's a long shot ....

 

yeah
if you look at what i posted the difference in weight is 193 lbs. not sure what trans types these are.

 

Wish I made $$ like that when I was 16... assuming you really ARE 16!!