CD player skips - anyone else have this problem? (x-post)
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Hi everyone,
Hi everyone,
I'm driving a '98 GLE. Does / did anyone using the stock head unit have skipping problems with the CD player? Is this unusual?
And... is there a a player (single or changer) that's very skip resistant? I don't care too much about cassette, I don't even own any cassettes.
My Dad complained of the skipping the week he bought the car. I've been the proud owner of the car for about a year now and I've seen the skipping problem get far more serious, and over lesser bumps.
Naturally, the Eibach springs I put in recently aggravate the problem, but it was a serious problem before that, and it's even a problem when I'm parked!
And in the fall when I go back to Bennington (Vermont, some of the roads are flat out unpaved) I suspect I will be totally out of luck.
Looking for some advice here.
Thanks,
Shayyadin
P.S.: I'm not a lurker anymore! WOOHOO! Give me two weeks, I'll be maxaholic...
Hi everyone,
I'm driving a '98 GLE. Does / did anyone using the stock head unit have skipping problems with the CD player? Is this unusual?
And... is there a a player (single or changer) that's very skip resistant? I don't care too much about cassette, I don't even own any cassettes.
My Dad complained of the skipping the week he bought the car. I've been the proud owner of the car for about a year now and I've seen the skipping problem get far more serious, and over lesser bumps.
Naturally, the Eibach springs I put in recently aggravate the problem, but it was a serious problem before that, and it's even a problem when I'm parked!
And in the fall when I go back to Bennington (Vermont, some of the roads are flat out unpaved) I suspect I will be totally out of luck.
Looking for some advice here.
Thanks,
Shayyadin
P.S.: I'm not a lurker anymore! WOOHOO! Give me two weeks, I'll be maxaholic...
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Yep....... it,s a p.o.s.
Originally posted by Shayyadin
I'm driving a '98 GLE. Does / did anyone using the stock head unit have skipping problems with the CD player? Is this unusual?
I'm driving a '98 GLE. Does / did anyone using the stock head unit have skipping problems with the CD player? Is this unusual?
Originally posted by Shayyadin
And... is there a a player (single or changer) that's very skip resistant?
And... is there a a player (single or changer) that's very skip resistant?
Originally posted by Shayyadin
Naturally, the Eibach springs I put in recently aggravate the problem, but it was a serious problem before that, and it's even a problem when I'm parked!
Naturally, the Eibach springs I put in recently aggravate the problem, but it was a serious problem before that, and it's even a problem when I'm parked!
Originally posted by Shayyadin
Looking for some advice here.
Looking for some advice here.
but at the time it was a lot cheaper than trying to add one to the factory Bose and I was not interested in changing out the factory unit.
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Funny, mine never skips and I use it every day. Stupid question time: is the CD dirty or have scratches? My last car started doing that, but with only one CD. Whenever the road got rough, it would skip and it turned out to be the CD was scratched. I guess the bump caused it to lose its track.
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mine skips. try running a laser clear to clean the dust and grime off of the laser lens. it does help.
also, if you're playing CD-R's, the laser might have a tougher time tracking them, especially certain 'colors' of disc.
-V
also, if you're playing CD-R's, the laser might have a tougher time tracking them, especially certain 'colors' of disc.
-V
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my cd player has never skipped...
the only prob of my cd player was, when my car was 2 months new, the display on the cd player sometimes didn't show the track time, it only showed the track number, when my car was 2 months new, and i had to re-insert the cd to solve the prob. but the prob has never existed for more than a yr. it's just gone.
the only prob of my cd player was, when my car was 2 months new, the display on the cd player sometimes didn't show the track time, it only showed the track number, when my car was 2 months new, and i had to re-insert the cd to solve the prob. but the prob has never existed for more than a yr. it's just gone.
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I have a Sherwood direct link changer for Nissan radios. It looks like a Alpine changer and doesn't skip at all. I know a lot of people I've sold them too. They work great.
Originally posted by kit
my cd player has never skipped...
the only prob of my cd player was, when my car was 2 months new, the display on the cd player sometimes didn't show the track time, it only showed the track number, when my car was 2 months new, and i had to re-insert the cd to solve the prob. but the prob has never existed for more than a yr. it's just gone.
my cd player has never skipped...
the only prob of my cd player was, when my car was 2 months new, the display on the cd player sometimes didn't show the track time, it only showed the track number, when my car was 2 months new, and i had to re-insert the cd to solve the prob. but the prob has never existed for more than a yr. it's just gone.
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I have experienced the same problem with CDR's in mine. Seems to play okay with regular CDs but skips to the point of erroring out with CDR with higher track numbers (10+). Serveral friends of mine who also own Maximas have reported the same problem. Nobody seems to have a solution to it. I have tried cleaning the CD/CDRs as well as the lens and player... no luck.
Probably just going to buy a CDR/CD/MP3 Player instead
Probably just going to buy a CDR/CD/MP3 Player instead
Originally posted by dnoah333
Probably just going to buy a CDR/CD/MP3 Player instead
Probably just going to buy a CDR/CD/MP3 Player instead
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Originally posted by Mishmosh
I have the Aiwa MP3 player. Do not recommend it simply because it skips all the time... even on regular CDs. The Pioneer CD player I had before that never skipped at all. Also, I put the Aiwa in myself so I know it was done right... The Aiwa will also choke on many brands of CDRs, despite being advertised as "CDR/CDRW ready."
I have the Aiwa MP3 player. Do not recommend it simply because it skips all the time... even on regular CDs. The Pioneer CD player I had before that never skipped at all. Also, I put the Aiwa in myself so I know it was done right... The Aiwa will also choke on many brands of CDRs, despite being advertised as "CDR/CDRW ready."
However, another friend of mine just got the Kenwood KDC-MP8017 in his Honda Accord and loves it. He says he has yet to have it skip on any MP3/CDR/CD and he lives on back country (translation: BAD) roads. He said the load and seek times on it are excellent and has not had a single problem with it so far (he's had it for about 3 months now)
I drove with him down to Chicago one weekend and we hit some pretty major potholes and it didn't even skip a beat.
And at $350 (cheaper if you do some research) you can't complain.
-Dan
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The color and the burner that u use to burn CD-R's are culprits too.
Ok, time for some technical jargin so bare with me
CD-R come in different colors to differenciate between quality.
Green is the lowest, using a dye called cyanine. They last about 10 years. Even though its the weakest the dye lends itself better to burning, thus the signal burnt is "stronger" in a sense. This means its safer on the laser in your CD player. Not much work put on the laser.
Blue is mid range. It uses a dye called azo. Burning is average, not too weak, but could be stronger. They are great for storing infomation from your computer because they have a lifetime of 100 years.
Gold is high quality. It uses a dye known as phthalocyanine, they tend to be tempermental during the burning process and not recommended for music use, could work the laser too much, causing severe skipping until finally failing.
Platinum is the ultimate disc. Using a cyan dye they can last for centuries. Perfect for storage and music. They allow for easy burning, so your CD Recorder will last longer and they're perfect for playback also, making it effortless for re reading.
Burners are another problem area. If your laser does not burn at the right level, it will put a greater strain on the laser that will playback the music, eventually distroying the reader. Creative, Plextor, yamaha and HP make great pc cd writers. Programs should either be nero or adaptec, nothing else!
Ok, so how does this all tie in you ask? True story, while DJing at a club here in jersey, my friend used CD-rs for all his hip hop and rNb (napster mp3 to wav)one day i go in and i was about to open up with a nice little trancey number that unfortunatley i only had a cd when BAM! the damn dual cd player ****ted out during the playing of the song, luckly i was already mixing the next song, so it wasn't like dead silence. I volunteered to take a look at it as to why it stoppped on side b but side a still worked. Well i say that the laser was visible ruined, i called Numark to ask how this could happen and they said that bad quality CD-r are the culprite. i did more research and found out that indeed cd-rs and burners make a difference over time.
anyways since so many people have this problem it might actually be the bose player itself, though i have a 98 with bose, and mines fine, go figure...
Ok, time for some technical jargin so bare with me
CD-R come in different colors to differenciate between quality.
Green is the lowest, using a dye called cyanine. They last about 10 years. Even though its the weakest the dye lends itself better to burning, thus the signal burnt is "stronger" in a sense. This means its safer on the laser in your CD player. Not much work put on the laser.
Blue is mid range. It uses a dye called azo. Burning is average, not too weak, but could be stronger. They are great for storing infomation from your computer because they have a lifetime of 100 years.
Gold is high quality. It uses a dye known as phthalocyanine, they tend to be tempermental during the burning process and not recommended for music use, could work the laser too much, causing severe skipping until finally failing.
Platinum is the ultimate disc. Using a cyan dye they can last for centuries. Perfect for storage and music. They allow for easy burning, so your CD Recorder will last longer and they're perfect for playback also, making it effortless for re reading.
Burners are another problem area. If your laser does not burn at the right level, it will put a greater strain on the laser that will playback the music, eventually distroying the reader. Creative, Plextor, yamaha and HP make great pc cd writers. Programs should either be nero or adaptec, nothing else!
Ok, so how does this all tie in you ask? True story, while DJing at a club here in jersey, my friend used CD-rs for all his hip hop and rNb (napster mp3 to wav)one day i go in and i was about to open up with a nice little trancey number that unfortunatley i only had a cd when BAM! the damn dual cd player ****ted out during the playing of the song, luckly i was already mixing the next song, so it wasn't like dead silence. I volunteered to take a look at it as to why it stoppped on side b but side a still worked. Well i say that the laser was visible ruined, i called Numark to ask how this could happen and they said that bad quality CD-r are the culprite. i did more research and found out that indeed cd-rs and burners make a difference over time.
anyways since so many people have this problem it might actually be the bose player itself, though i have a 98 with bose, and mines fine, go figure...
Mine hasnt had ne problems.. 97 Bose.
BTW, dyes dont mean much, really. I think matte & burner are more important. If you take care of a cdr, your data should be fine for a long time.
As for skipping.. burning modes, cdr calibration (cdr's have a lil calibration track) .. some other bs. I dont believe the hype anymore. I've found every CDR to work in my car. My old car was pickier tho, TAO skipped more often than DAO on the same type of cdr.
The only reason i care about matte is so you dont go scratching the foil side n screwin everything up.
BTW, dyes dont mean much, really. I think matte & burner are more important. If you take care of a cdr, your data should be fine for a long time.
As for skipping.. burning modes, cdr calibration (cdr's have a lil calibration track) .. some other bs. I dont believe the hype anymore. I've found every CDR to work in my car. My old car was pickier tho, TAO skipped more often than DAO on the same type of cdr.
The only reason i care about matte is so you dont go scratching the foil side n screwin everything up.
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Originally posted by OgreDave
BTW, dyes dont mean much, really. I think matte & burner are more important. If you take care of a cdr, your data should be fine for a long time.
BTW, dyes dont mean much, really. I think matte & burner are more important. If you take care of a cdr, your data should be fine for a long time.
Originally posted by JdawgX
Dyes actualy do have A LOT to do with the quality and playback. Egression is 100% right on the subject. Call a company like Adaptec or their sister company Roxio and ask them. They'll tell you the same thing. As far as how long they'll last? Most people won't have a CDr for even ten years but the dye does affect the longevity of the disk.
Dyes actualy do have A LOT to do with the quality and playback. Egression is 100% right on the subject. Call a company like Adaptec or their sister company Roxio and ask them. They'll tell you the same thing. As far as how long they'll last? Most people won't have a CDr for even ten years but the dye does affect the longevity of the disk.
But i guess that depends on how many you have too. I think im into the 4digit range now.. so i guess its relative how much you care about them.
I guess you can say dyes affect the logevity, but in all/most relevance, that number 10 yr for green, everything else is pretty much 20+ yrs.. its a pointless matter. The technical side would say yes, they matter. The practical side would say, who cares?
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i think your missing my entire point, i'm not worrying about longevity, i just decided to add that info.
The main thing is that low quality cd-r's (and the company that makes cd's can actually make the cd-r dyes worse than they should be, so if you see ***100 CD-R's for 10 bucks!*** chances are, they're pretty crappy) actually affect the laser inside the device you use to play back the music. If not burnt correctly or on the right CD-R, you put your playback device in serious jepordy.
Dreamcast has a massive problem with this. Anyone that uses any type of CD-R/CD-RW (platinum or not) in a dreamcast (downloading the games ISO's from random sights on the net)to play bootleg games, your dreamcast will die in anywhere from 3 to 10 months, garunteed. The laser in your home CD writers don't burn the signal strong enough on the cd-r's (plus it doesn't help that the dreamcast uses a GD-R) thus causing a higher workload to the laser inside the dreamcast. after a while, it'll crap out.
The main thing is that low quality cd-r's (and the company that makes cd's can actually make the cd-r dyes worse than they should be, so if you see ***100 CD-R's for 10 bucks!*** chances are, they're pretty crappy) actually affect the laser inside the device you use to play back the music. If not burnt correctly or on the right CD-R, you put your playback device in serious jepordy.
Dreamcast has a massive problem with this. Anyone that uses any type of CD-R/CD-RW (platinum or not) in a dreamcast (downloading the games ISO's from random sights on the net)to play bootleg games, your dreamcast will die in anywhere from 3 to 10 months, garunteed. The laser in your home CD writers don't burn the signal strong enough on the cd-r's (plus it doesn't help that the dreamcast uses a GD-R) thus causing a higher workload to the laser inside the dreamcast. after a while, it'll crap out.
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Happy ending.
Wow! Thanks, everyone, for the copious advice!
The first thing I did was this. One day, I told a friend of mine to choose a new-looking CD out of my collection and put it in. If it skipped at a red light (so the car isn't moving), I was buying a new system +that day+.
It did.
So what I've got in there is an Eclipse 56050 in-dash changer, Alpine V12 amp, Boston FX60's in the front and FX6's in the back, and a JL stealth subwoofer in the trunk. The installers (local guys) were incredible and you can't tell it's not factory.
The Eclipse just doesn't skip. It doesn't skip over those atomic potholes I drive over (fast, with a lowered suspension), it doesn't skip when unfinished Massachusetts paving just sort of ends, it doesn't skip driving on unpaved Mass Bay island roads.
It just doesn't skip. Sound quality in this system blows my mind. Perfect for me, and the price is agreeable.
I have to say the time it takes to switch discs is annoying, but other than that I am a happy camper.
Next task on my list is to take all my gold CD-R's and convert 'em to platinum CD-R's. Damned head unit cost too much to mess that one up, too.
Shayyadin
The first thing I did was this. One day, I told a friend of mine to choose a new-looking CD out of my collection and put it in. If it skipped at a red light (so the car isn't moving), I was buying a new system +that day+.
It did.
So what I've got in there is an Eclipse 56050 in-dash changer, Alpine V12 amp, Boston FX60's in the front and FX6's in the back, and a JL stealth subwoofer in the trunk. The installers (local guys) were incredible and you can't tell it's not factory.
The Eclipse just doesn't skip. It doesn't skip over those atomic potholes I drive over (fast, with a lowered suspension), it doesn't skip when unfinished Massachusetts paving just sort of ends, it doesn't skip driving on unpaved Mass Bay island roads.
It just doesn't skip. Sound quality in this system blows my mind. Perfect for me, and the price is agreeable.
I have to say the time it takes to switch discs is annoying, but other than that I am a happy camper.
Next task on my list is to take all my gold CD-R's and convert 'em to platinum CD-R's. Damned head unit cost too much to mess that one up, too.
Shayyadin
Originally posted by Egression
i think your missing my entire point, i'm not worrying about longevity, i just decided to add that info.
The main thing is that low quality cd-r's (and the company that makes cd's can actually make the cd-r dyes worse than they should be, so if you see ***100 CD-R's for 10 bucks!*** chances are, they're pretty crappy) actually affect the laser inside the device you use to play back the music. If not burnt correctly or on the right CD-R, you put your playback device in serious jepordy.
Dreamcast has a massive problem with this. Anyone that uses any type of CD-R/CD-RW (platinum or not) in a dreamcast (downloading the games ISO's from random sights on the net)to play bootleg games, your dreamcast will die in anywhere from 3 to 10 months, garunteed. The laser in your home CD writers don't burn the signal strong enough on the cd-r's (plus it doesn't help that the dreamcast uses a GD-R) thus causing a higher workload to the laser inside the dreamcast. after a while, it'll crap out.
i think your missing my entire point, i'm not worrying about longevity, i just decided to add that info.
The main thing is that low quality cd-r's (and the company that makes cd's can actually make the cd-r dyes worse than they should be, so if you see ***100 CD-R's for 10 bucks!*** chances are, they're pretty crappy) actually affect the laser inside the device you use to play back the music. If not burnt correctly or on the right CD-R, you put your playback device in serious jepordy.
Dreamcast has a massive problem with this. Anyone that uses any type of CD-R/CD-RW (platinum or not) in a dreamcast (downloading the games ISO's from random sights on the net)to play bootleg games, your dreamcast will die in anywhere from 3 to 10 months, garunteed. The laser in your home CD writers don't burn the signal strong enough on the cd-r's (plus it doesn't help that the dreamcast uses a GD-R) thus causing a higher workload to the laser inside the dreamcast. after a while, it'll crap out.
Where can I get those plantium CDS? I haven't seen them anywhere, I can only find golds, can I get them online??
I got those running on my car now it says its made for audio or something... take a look
http://www.kodak.com/cgi-bin/webCata...ld&cc=US&lc=en
I got those running on my car now it says its made for audio or something... take a look
http://www.kodak.com/cgi-bin/webCata...ld&cc=US&lc=en
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Originally posted by costcowholesale
Where can I get those plantium CDS? I haven't seen them anywhere, I can only find golds, can I get them online??
Where can I get those plantium CDS? I haven't seen them anywhere, I can only find golds, can I get them online??
Originally posted by Egression
EXACTLY! my main point! just don't buy the flimsy ones
EXACTLY! my main point! just don't buy the flimsy ones
Anyways, good to see that we agree on the main point. I buy generic stuff thats matte
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