6th Generation Maxima (2004-2008) Discussion of the 6th generation Maxima. Come see what others are saying.

anyone thought about upgrading camshafts?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:14 AM
  #1  
maxmale's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,383
anyone thought about upgrading camshafts?

i am thinking of doing this just wondering if anyone has done this yet, i think there would be some good gains with this upgrade.

how much do you think installation would run?
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:26 AM
  #2  
NismoMax80's Avatar
SuPeRmOd
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,378
install for $10,000

i take it you're looking at the $1400 Stillen billet ones? they claim 15hp.
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:55 AM
  #3  
maxmale's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,383
10,000 i hope your kidding.
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 06:07 AM
  #4  
maxdizzle1's Avatar
Donating Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 103
I would be willing to bet, no one has done this mod. Probably the main reason is the difficulty of installation. When I did my dyno I also discussed this same issue regarding the camshafts and told him about the Stillens that claim 15+HP. These guys do serious HP work, engine swaps, superchargers, nitrous, etc.... The mechanic said that it wouldn't be cheap and that it's not a basic install. He talked about some technical things, and where certain things were located and said he wouldn't recommend it for the ponies you get. I looked at the website $1335.00 is pretty steep for 15+HP. With the way he described the install, my guess is labor would run $650-$1,500. Where are these headers? If you do it, good luck and I'm sure it would be a very noticeable gain, but I just question it's overal HP/$ value. Nitrous would likely be cheaper for sure and a ton more ponies. PEACE OUT............
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 07:10 AM
  #5  
05MAXSE's Avatar
Donating Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 50
I asked my dealer about installation and the reply was around $1000. Add $1600 for NISMO cams plus tax and 15 HP gets damn expensive.
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 07:47 AM
  #6  
maxmale's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,383
i agree that is a lot of money for 15 ponies but im sure the i/h/e all will tie in nicely to give more than 15.
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 07:55 AM
  #7  
maxdizzle1's Avatar
Donating Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 103
I agree Maxmale. If you have the whole set-up the gains will probably be even more significant. I would guess they could reach 30HP or more. Someone with some expertise in this would be able to confirm it though. PEACE
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 09:00 AM
  #8  
nick wolff's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 219
i plan on doing the camshaft install along with high compression heads from nismo.
look into 350z internals and you'll come up with everything and anything.

the high compression heads are 15.1:1 ratio. $2,000 though. and you'll need some extra parts. not sure if nismo cams are a must for them though.
look it up, i'd love to bounce idea's with you guys because im looking to drop some serious cash into the engine bay after i buy the nismo wheels.

- Nick
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 09:06 AM
  #9  
NismoMax80's Avatar
SuPeRmOd
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,378
nismo wheels

yes, get the ball rolling on compatible Z oem and Nismo parts! blackpaladin67 found the generic intercooler input used for the G and Z that is on our VQ, although not open.

(thanx tilley for that info) <<he's currently placing a G35-VQ in his older Pathy. Mad Scientist he is, yes.
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 01:50 PM
  #10  
nick wolff's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 219
right on! yeah, nismo gets REALLY expensive though... the wheels should be on in about a month or so...

i say give it a try with the camshafts situation. later on down the road, you'll probably want to switch them out anyways... just my .02 though.
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:34 PM
  #11  
Glude's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,780
Cams arent really worth the money.
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 04:09 PM
  #12  
DeusExMaxima's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,353
From: Upland CA
I guess it depends on how you look at this situation. From a financial point of view, it may not be worth the money. I know cams can really wake up a motor, epsecially if they are combined with upgraded intake, exhaust, and other mods. I tihkn they result in more hp if more mods are done. Lets assume you get 25 hp more. At around 1200-1500 for the part, and your own labor, that is about 60-70 dollars per hp. Compared to a simple intake which is arguably around 25 bucks per hp, its expensive. On the other hand, if you are looking for some serious hp, and keeping it all motor, this is not a bad finishing touch. This mod should put the motor well over 300 hp, when combines with intake, exhaust, y pipe, UDP, lightened flywheel and maybe ecu reflash or that safcII thing. It all adds up, baby!!!
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 04:35 PM
  #13  
NmexMAX's Avatar
dot dot dot ...
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 34,576
From: Santa Fe, NM
when combines with intake, exhaust, y pipe, UDP, lightened flywheel and maybe ecu reflash or that safcII thing. It all adds up, baby!!!
It adds up tp ricer math ..



look into 350z internals and you'll come up with everything and anything.

the high compression heads are 15.1:1 ratio
How are 350z internals different from ours? Track edition has different rod bolts.

15.1:1 Better start thinking of some serious fuel to burn in there ...
Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:23 PM
  #14  
2K4EliteSE's Avatar
Donating Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 27
I had a comp cams camshaft put in my 99 Grand Prix GTP and the labor was 900 and change. The engine layout is similar in the Max so I'd assume the cost would be the same. For a cam you could call Comp Cams and give them the current engine specs and they could help you come up with a nice grind for probably 400-600 each. The only thing is that you don't know how much power you'll gain or lose until you dyno it as where the nismo is already researched. I'd think with a medium range cam you could get around 15 hp, and if you go want a hot cam i'm sure you could get close to 25-30 hp if you already have an intake and exhaust. I put a medium cam in my GTP and picked up 45 ponies, but having the supercharger increased the gains and I had the computer custom tuned.
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 11:12 AM
  #15  
nick wolff's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 219
350z internals are not different. however the track model parts should be looked into before you do anything you'll regret...
a vq35de motor is a vq35de motor regardless but just double check before you get F'd in the A. lol
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:49 AM
  #16  
NmexMAX's Avatar
dot dot dot ...
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 34,576
From: Santa Fe, NM
The engine layout is similar in the Max
Not really, compeltely diffetrent valvetrain .. OHV vs DOHC And we have 4 cams, not just one 'cam'.
350z internals are not different. however the track model parts should be looked into before you do anything you'll regret...
Track edition has different rod bolts in order to safely rev ~7000.
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 07:10 PM
  #17  
2K4EliteSE's Avatar
Donating Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 27
Sorry,I miss-worded that. What I meant was the position of the engine.
Old Oct 16, 2005 | 05:40 PM
  #18  
manchur's Avatar
Newbie - Just Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 9
There is quite a bit of work to swap cams on this engine. I looked up the shop manual and with 3 timing chains, 4 cams, varibly controlled pullys plus possibly the hassle of getting the computer to respond to all this. Keep in mind, the engine control section of the shop manual is 690 pages long! Camshaft position sensors, IVT control solenoids..... Not for the faint of heart
Old Oct 16, 2005 | 07:28 PM
  #19  
KCMAXX's Avatar
KC's FINEST
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,444
From: KANSAS CITY MO
Originally Posted by nick wolff
i plan on doing the camshaft install along with high compression heads from nismo.
look into 350z internals and you'll come up with everything and anything.

the high compression heads are 15.1:1 ratio. $2,000 though. and you'll need some extra parts. not sure if nismo cams are a must for them though.
look it up, i'd love to bounce idea's with you guys because im looking to drop some serious cash into the engine bay after i buy the nismo wheels.

- Nick
Are you talking about these?

rims

Im trying to sell my heavy azz 20's to my neighbor and go a different route. Im tired of having a slow car....

$1920.00 plus tax..? Damn
Old Oct 16, 2005 | 08:23 PM
  #20  
Glude's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,780
Those wheels are really nice. I should be getting my new 19s in a couple weeks.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:14 AM
  #21  
maxmale's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,383
yea i like those wheels. that is the first time i have seen those nismo wheels. Another wheel i really like is the do-luck double six.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:27 AM
  #22  
nismology's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,099
From: Miami, FL
Originally Posted by manchur
There is quite a bit of work to swap cams on this engine. I looked up the shop manual and with 3 timing chains, 4 cams, varibly controlled pullys plus possibly the hassle of getting the computer to respond to all this. Keep in mind, the engine control section of the shop manual is 690 pages long! Camshaft position sensors, IVT control solenoids..... Not for the faint of heart
It's not THAT serious. You could technically do it in a day. Two days tops. The hardest thing would be getting new software to match.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:51 PM
  #23  
nick wolff's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 219
no, these.
however those maxima wheels are pretty tastey aswell
Old Oct 19, 2005 | 04:22 PM
  #24  
wsu's Avatar
wsu
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 289
Very Serious!

Originally Posted by manchur
There is quite a bit of work to swap cams on this engine. I looked up the shop manual and with 3 timing chains, 4 cams, varibly controlled pullys plus possibly the hassle of getting the computer to respond to all this. Keep in mind, the engine control section of the shop manual is 690 pages long! Camshaft position sensors, IVT control solenoids..... Not for the faint of heart
Hey MaxMale, if you pull the camshaft upgrade off, then I, likely among others, will be very impressed. You are waaaay over my league, and more power (pun intended) to you! Will you do this yourself or employ the services of a garage? How long do you anticipate it taking?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Maxboy23
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
55
May 1, 2025 06:09 PM
MaxStock
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
14
Dec 5, 2016 05:19 PM
220k+ A32
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
8
Sep 23, 2015 03:38 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:12 PM.