Got on the dyno finally this morning. Still using the Injen.. need to get my custom intake in. Also still need to increase rev limit and adjust timing but I did do some a/f tuning and got my switchover set.

I'll let the results speak for themselves! Take your pick which numbers you want to use, the blue run (#10) is 3rd gear and red (#11) is 4th gear.

Now I just have to get the power on the ground and start running some solid 13's. Anyone want to donate some slicks to my cause?

 

x10e^10 ..

Wow .. strange,, but holy as.s monkey

 

is it power on wheels or crankshaft??

 

Wheels of course... it's a DynoJet 248. Those numbers are no joke, I have 4 witnesses, one of them Speedemn here on the org.

If anyone wants the run files I can post them.

 

what mods do u have

 

EMU .. Camless fwhp .. Gotta bow teh f'uck down now. Giving comp to my 3.5L

 

just wanted ask same Q

 

Wow, what are your mods?

 

Here's the runfiles for those who'd like them...

Oct 7-05 tuning.010
Oct 7-05 tuning.011


For mods check out the first post of this thread. It should have a pretty current list there since it's only 2 weeks ago. I pretty much dyno'd my track setup. Oh, and add no P/S. Other than that it's the same list.

 

now thats what im talking bout...lol...congrats...vq's baby please list ur mods...

 

Damn i need to get me some chrome door handles....nice numbers

 

damn this gives me some hope of breaking 200 when I dyno with my 00vi. I didnt think it would be possible since I am auto but will have to wait and see now.

what did u set the switchover point at?

 

Holy snap dude. That is awesome. Now I think I might be the first to hit 200WHP in an auto VQ30 4th gen :-D

 

very nice what do you have working on the EU for those runs ?

 

The EU is only controlling my VIAS (5000 switchover) and A/F. Still can't do timing or rev limit until the update comes out. There's a slim chance that may happen towards the end of next week or soon after. But don't anyone hold their breath lol.

 

so is this all?
00VI w/ 4th gen TB
Injen
headers/y/test/b
UDP,
JWT w/7000 limit and Greddy EU (not fully tuned yet)
ES mounts

 

See the last 2 sentences of post #9 in this thread...

 

What do you have the AF set to on the EU? 13.5 13.0?

 

It averages 13.0 to 13.2 for the most part.

In case you're wondering, the dyno shop didn't have a WB so that's why the A/F doesn't show up on the graphs. But it would have just been a tail-sniffer if they did anyways; I'm not so confident those are that accurate.

I did the tuning using my own WB.

 

yeah i got that i was just re stating it to reitterate my disbelife. unreal

 

Haha. There's no smoke and mirrors man.... I was surprised too. I figured I'd be 205 to 210hp... definitely wasn't expecting 220hp (but I'm not complaining). lol.

 

Damn man, good numbers...


With A/F of 13.5 and +8 timing advance I squeezed out 201 WHP with the DEK swap on my tired stock motor, now im definitly looking forward to the full-on DEK swap with the Cattman headers (doubtful). And no im not jumping on the band wagon cause of these #s I can't afford the VQ35 swap that I want to do and need a newer motor.

 

I hear ya. Money's an issue for me now too. Although these numbers are great I still will do the VQ35 eventually. It's not a matter of if, but when.

But even on my current setup I may still be able to squeeze out a bit more. I couldn't do anything with timing yet as I'm still waiting for Greddy, so my tuning right now is only for 91 octane, that's it. Once I can control timing I'll put in higher octane and re-tune and see if she's got a bit more in her yet...

 

It may take awhile for Greddy to get it working but it's worth it, most of my tuning gains were with timing advance. My +8 is only past 4500 rpm, below that I stepped it up slowly. This is not only for detonation prevention reasons but also you can't advance timing to fast with the SMT-6 or it triggers a ghost cam 0101 code.

Also do tune with some good 93 octane and make even better #s, my guess for a 4th gear pull would be 225~230 WHP with timing and A/F.

 

Yeah I agree with you timing will definitely lose/gain you more than just playing with A/F. That's why I'm itching to get the EU update. Well that and to try the rev limit. My gut feeling was that I might be able to get at least another 5 hp (like you're suggesting). We'll see.

And I can get 94 octane up here... that's what I plan to tune for.

I may also add another couple of maps for race gas eventually. But I wonder if it would be warranted just N/A without juice or boost... there's gonna be that point somewhere where you won't see further gains and the engine starts to lose power from being over-advanced, if it doesn't knock first that is... (and I have no idea where that point is, not having had a chance to advance timing before now).

But first things first.

 

Going from stock timing to my SMT +8 timing map picked up 12 WHP and 9 WTQ on the 248C dyno, now that's just timing advance. A/F picked up a little more power. However you already have a JWT ECU so you may not be able to get as much vs stock, cause you have some JWT timing advance already.

 

Yeah that's why I'm thinking 5 hp or so... if I get more, GREAT! but if not I'll be happy with whatever I can get. I doubt I can advance another 8 deg from JWT's settings... maybe 3 or 4 max. But I'm just guessing, I really won't know until I can actually do it.

 

so thats the cattman headers? and would you recommend the jwt or can you tune the rev with the eu?

 

Yes Cattman headers, but not the new version though. My whole exhaust is Cattman actually, save for the test pipe.

I'm not happy with the JWT ECU however I cannot say whether the rev limit extend will work on the EU yet. I'm waiting for a firmware update from Greddy that fixes the pick up of our crank sensor signal, so that we can control timing and hopefully rev limit.

My advice for now would be to wait and see what the EU can do before buying anything. The update from Greddy should be coming soon.

 

Great numbers. Geez, same tq as my USIM but +32whp You'll be in 13's soon enough.

 

Also on that dyno did you leave the lower manifold swirl valves in? There is also a plate on most of the '00~'01 DEKs between that TB and intake manifold. Did you remove that as well?

Reason I ask is that im trying to determine if they hurt and or help performance at all. Seems to me that below 7000 rpm they don't take power away and may help with midrange.

 

damn...thanks.

 

The manifolds I got did not come with swirl valves or the plate. So I don't have either. But I do know exactly what you're referring to.

I just kind of thought those things would be a bit more of a restriction to airflow at high rpms, and only of little benefit at lower rpms (the swirl valves in particular). But it's not like I had any evidence or numbers to base it on.

But you've got me curious now... is there a reason why you think that they would not lose any power up high, and even help with midrange? Have you done any kind of MAF datalogging or similar or have any analysis of any kind or are you just speculating?

 

You have a very healthy max. By any chance any other 4th gens with the mevi dyno as well?

 

uh... you said mevi... did you mean 00VI? I think you meant 00VI...

 

Nah, I meant mevi, wanted to know how maxes with that manifold does on that dyno compared to yours.

 

Ah ok. Well Speedemn dynoed the same time as me... he'll have to post as I don't recall his exact numbers but they were close to 207hp/200wtq or thereabouts.

He's a full bolt-on 5 spd with MEVI etc..

 

I see, I dyno close to speedemn as well, man, the 00VI is just unreal. Did you also dyno with the millenia wheels with drag radials?

 

Yes, Millenias. That's what I've been running at the track. Speedemn runs lightweight SSR's all around so our wheel weights are pretty much the same for the dyno/track. (Millenias are around 11lbs and so are SSR Type C's).

 

Ok thats good to know, doesn't seem like your taking a hit in the midrange or top end. I think the TB plate was to reduce intake noise and whistle. I have some ideas about the swirl valves but it's just speculation as of right now. Dyno tests would need to be done back to back and I don't have the time or money for that.