I've seen in a couple of threads that the stock resonator is what aids to keep the throttle response in the max. however, do you still get the roaring sound of the intake?

 

if you just put a filter on the MAF with the stock resonator, you get a little growl. I plan on using the CAI part of the intake off the stock resonator, going that route youll get a growl. Otherwise just stick with a hacked air box

 

you get a nice growl

 

Got cold air piping on the end of the stock midpipe, it is a little louder than stock, nowhere as loud as the full CAI set up though and definitely better throttle response.

 

well im not rlly planning on putting the cold air part, just the filter on the end of the MAF. I feel with my current set up (Bomz ebay intake) ive lost a lot of throttle response. Therefore, i want to try using the stock resonator to see if it will help. But i love the sound and i don't want to lose it.

 

you'll lose a lot of that sound, since the short ram resonator is metal and stock is plastic. youll still have a little growl, but nowhere near what your short ram was

 

With an air filter and the stock resonator, you can't really hear anything under normal driving conditions, but if you go WOT, it growls really loud.

 

The roar won't be quite as loud since the air won't be as turbulent entering the TB, but your throttle response will go up for sure. IMO stock res.+CAI is the best setup.

 

Would this setup be considered a popcharger? I read this in maxmods:

"The popcharger is just a K&N type cone filter that bolts on to a velocity stack, which then bolts on the the end of the mass air flow sensor.....

...And while there never really will be an answer, it seems that the popcharger helps most in the high end RPM range but can acually cause a little lag in the lower RPMs which is more noticable on automatic cars."

I'm looking to get my low end back, not lose it. Am i better off keeping the HAI i have now?

 

I put my stock intake back on...you will get tired of the growl specially when it turns to a ricer type sound past 5K rpm...and I have a stick I30t and still felt the low end go down the drain. maybe i wasn't launching with high RPM but then again who wants to do that in an I30 lol

 

i think at this point.....i'm just gonna do the hacked intake box mod

 

Thats the one I've got, a little more sound, but not really that noticable. Way more quiet then the open filter.

 

If you do anything to the stock intake to introduce more air, you will lose low end. Even if you just remove the air box and replace it with a cone filter, you'll lose low end. If you put holes in the stock air box, you'll lose low end. It's not as bad as a full AF intake, but it's still noticable. Me likes the no sound/low end power/stock setup. No more foking with the intake for me.

 

WRONG. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you use the true PR style CAI, you will gain low end, but lose high end. If you use the CAI part into the fender with the stock resonator, that would be the best set up.

 

That's the one type of intake I have not tried, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. I would love to see some proof on this though. The stock box chokes at high end as it is, not to mention the annoying power drop at high rpms with a USIM. You mean to tell me the cai will just add to this qwerk? I would not call that the "best". The stocker would be the best all around performer.

 

You are partially correct. The PR style CAI loses no high end. That's a myth. But i will vouch for you saying the PR CAI with stock resonator is the best.

 

That's an urban legend. PR CAI with stock resonator is the best all-around. Clear-cut advantages to cooler air and clear-cut advantages to using the stock resonator.

 

anyone w/ proof?

 

how about this. i'll dyno my car before i add my PR cai.
i just need to find a place to do that....
and then i'll dyno afterwards.
i need some pictures on how people cut their hole in the fender.

 

Please do so we can see for ourselves.

 

I'll do the same before the year is out. I was always under the assumption that due to the longer tubing of the CAI that high end power was lost, but ill take your word for it. I know low end isnt lost due to the air being available with a tap of the gas.

 

The whole dyno story is BS. A true cold air intake will not show any gains from a dyno because it is so dependant on wind and air activity neer the fender. The best way to test is on the track. 1/4 times and 1/8 times will show how it gained. Of course that would take many runs and time to change a completly stock car to cold air and back to stock air box. IMO my PR CAI has given me low end gains and hasnt taken anything from high end. It is set up as ram air right now. Also intakes are ment to be coupled with exhaust. More flow is always better.

 

a dyno isnt that great of an idea. at normal driving speeds the engine bay nears ambient temps so it is about the same as a fender CAI. i have the short ram intake and i didnt notice the supposed low end losses. it almost seemed easier to drive my 5spd with the new intake just because all downshifts were easier and faster. i like the way you can have a pretty loud car, but only when you want.

 

if track numbers are your proof, i went from 15.994 to 15.448 at the track a week apart from installing my CAI. The 15.994 was with the hacked air box.

 

the fender style CAI or is it the crappy version?

 

ok hmm..well i'll dyno anyways because i've never dynoed before and i want to see some numbers.

 

the fender style, why on earth would i waste time with an injen CAI

 

lol dam guys do all do the same shiet. no point arguing over which intake setup does beter. low end highend, midrange...you guys will still be running the same numbers....

 

is that so? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

W/E. I am verry happy that i got rid of the stock air box. It was ugly and took up too much room. I dont feel any losses (i think its better low end though), but if i lost 2 hp so be it. My VQ30 sounds how it should, nice and growly, and it looks sick. IMO it was way worth it. I have PR CAI.

 

+1 on that lexx

 

Place racing is the sh*t. F*** all of that ebay crap that is produced without any research and development .

 

So is it safe to say that the best intake setup (performance wise), is to use stock resanator, and the portion of the PR CAI, that goes into the fender with the filter ?