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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:55 AM
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motor weight anybody?

Does anybody know the weight of a full dress up DE-K , VQ35, and a VE30DE?
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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I weighed my VQ35 in at 265# (no PS, AC, alt. or exhaust manifolds)

edit: and no flywheel
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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thanx now just need DE-K and VE30DE
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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DE-K is 45lbs heavier than the VQ35.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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wait, didn't jclaw say he weighed his vq35 and it came out to be 175-200lbs? correct me if i am wrong jclaw...

and I thought the vq30 was 30lbs heavier than the vq35...not 45? sorry, i'm bored tonight
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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The DEK is at least 250. It is one heavy beast. I have unloaded two of them.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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I do not know how JClaw came up with his weight. If he went with the shipping weight on a packing slip, those are bogus. When the guy dropped off my engine, I asked him how much it weighed. He said "All engines weigh 200#". (ie. It is just a standard weight they use for shipping purposes)

I had my engine practically stripped down to the block and weighed the components on a shipping scale I borrowed from work.

block, crank & oil pump - 118#
both heads with valves installed (no cams or lifters) - 50#
front&rear timing covers + bolts - 23.5#
cams, lifters, sprockets, tensioners, chains, etc. - 34#
LIM, upper & lower plenum & throttle body, front engine mount - 36#

I just realized I never weighed the pistons & conn. rods. That would not amount to much more than about 6#. They are pretty light.

So lets say 270-275# for a VQ35 with no flywheel or accessories.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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VE=100lbs + VQ30
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eng92
I do not know how JClaw came up with his weight. If he went with the shipping weight on a packing slip, those are bogus. When the guy dropped off my engine, I asked him how much it weighed. He said "All engines weigh 200#". (ie. It is just a standard weight they use for shipping purposes)

I had my engine practically stripped down to the block and weighed the components on a shipping scale I borrowed from work.

block, crank & oil pump - 118#
both heads with valves installed (no cams or lifters) - 50#
front&rear timing covers + bolts - 23.5#
cams, lifters, sprockets, tensioners, chains, etc. - 34#
LIM, upper & lower plenum & throttle body, front engine mount - 36#

I just realized I never weighed the pistons & conn. rods. That would not amount to much more than about 6#. They are pretty light.

So lets say 270-275# for a VQ35 with no flywheel or accessories.
there goes some empirical data...ouch i've been tellin my friends vq35s weigh less than 200lbs
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by eng92
I do not know how JClaw came up with his weight. If he went with the shipping weight on a packing slip, those are bogus. When the guy dropped off my engine, I asked him how much it weighed. He said "All engines weigh 200#". (ie. It is just a standard weight they use for shipping purposes)

I had my engine practically stripped down to the block and weighed the components on a shipping scale I borrowed from work.

block, crank & oil pump - 118#
both heads with valves installed (no cams or lifters) - 50#
front&rear timing covers + bolts - 23.5#
cams, lifters, sprockets, tensioners, chains, etc. - 34#
LIM, upper & lower plenum & throttle body, front engine mount - 36#

I just realized I never weighed the pistons & conn. rods. That would not amount to much more than about 6#. They are pretty light.

So lets say 270-275# for a VQ35 with no flywheel or accessories.
heres no way the vq30 is close to vq35 weight even nissan says vq 35 is 30+ lbs lighter.
The vq 30 valve covers are heavy because i know the vq35's are 8lbs lighter right there over VQ30's i weighed them at tilleys on a scale that measures in grams. think of that just the valvecovers save 8lbs
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by krismax
heres no way the vq30 is close to vq35 weight even nissan says vq 35 is 30+ lbs lighter.
The vq 30 valve covers are heavy because i know the vq35's are 8lbs lighter right there over VQ30's i weighed them at tilleys on a scale that measures in grams. think of that just the valvecovers save 8lbs
I agree. Both valve covers, spark plugs and bolts weigh in at about 2#. There is also a huge weight difference between the flywheels, which was not included in my measurements.

I have a VQ30 (less flywheel) sitting in the corner of the garage. I just need to rig up something to get it to balance on the scales.
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by eng92
I agree. Both valve covers, spark plugs and bolts weigh in at about 2#. There is also a huge weight difference between the flywheels, which was not included in my measurements.

I have a VQ30 (less flywheel) sitting in the corner of the garage. I just need to rig up something to get it to balance on the scales.
3.5 is alot heavier the flywheel which is why iam glag i have the lightest of 3.0 parts flywheel and timing assembly on 3.0 is lighter than 3.5.
But i weighed 2k2 IM over 00vi and and believe it or not the 2k2 upper is much lighter but the lower is heavier than 00vi's lower. But i bet dek engine is lighter than 3.0 because even the dek's lower is a few lbs lighter than reg vq30's
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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thanx guys for helpful info
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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I know a VQ35 is one heavy beast, my friend and I were trying to put it up on a bed of a pick up truck and we needed help!!! it didn't have ac compressor, and motor mounts...THATS A HUUUUGE BICH!!
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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Actually it's probably one of the lightest engines for its size in the world....
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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A friend and I had no problem lifting by hand a VQ35 on a pallet into the bed of a pickup truck. It had no accessories on it and had the exhaust manifolds taken off. Didn't "feel" heavier than 200lbs. Basically, it felt like it weighed the same as a 4 banger with a cast iron block.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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Try lifting a VE30DE with two people. Superman and HeMan couldn't do that. haha

Originally Posted by kraimer21
I know a VQ35 is one heavy beast, my friend and I were trying to put it up on a bed of a pick up truck and we needed help!!! it didn't have ac compressor, and motor mounts...THATS A HUUUUGE BICH!!
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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so wuts the final weight on the vq35? we still have two different opinions flying around
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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200-300lbs. I tend to think it's on the lower end of the range. We do know that the VQ35 is 35lbs lighter than the DE-K or the DE. If you put the VQ30 flywheel on the VQ35, it'll be even lighter.

How much does a VE weigh? Like 500lbs?
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by eng92
I do not know how JClaw came up with his weight. If he went with the shipping weight on a packing slip, those are bogus. When the guy dropped off my engine, I asked him how much it weighed. He said "All engines weigh 200#". (ie. It is just a standard weight they use for shipping purposes)

I had my engine practically stripped down to the block and weighed the components on a shipping scale I borrowed from work.

block, crank & oil pump - 118#
both heads with valves installed (no cams or lifters) - 50#
front&rear timing covers + bolts - 23.5#
cams, lifters, sprockets, tensioners, chains, etc. - 34#
LIM, upper & lower plenum & throttle body, front engine mount - 36#

I just realized I never weighed the pistons & conn. rods. That would not amount to much more than about 6#. They are pretty light.

So lets say 270-275# for a VQ35 with no flywheel or accessories.
I just happen to have in my office a VQ35 piston and connecting rod with wrist pin and bearing inserts. The assembly weighs in at 2 lbs 10 oz, so six of them would be 15.75 lbs. So the engine weight comes to at least 277 lbs.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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okay so its safe to say a vq35 is 270ish and a vq30 is about 305ish?
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by steven88
okay so its safe to say a vq35 is 270ish and a vq30 is about 305ish?
so many # flying around in here.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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okay so its safe to say a vq35 is 270ish and a vq30 is about 305ish?
It's in the ballpark.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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at less i kno it like a million pounds lighter then VE that all i care about
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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This site has good info, except engine weights
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/featu...nes/home.shtml

This article says towards the bottom that there's only a 64# savings versus the previous engine but alot of their info doesn't look very accurate:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/rev...n/maxima/1994/
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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So a DE-K is probably slightly lighter than a 30DE due to the IM, right?

And so are 5.5 gens slightly lighter overall than 5.0 gens? Probably improves front/rear weight distribution and handling and hurts traction.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VQuick
So a DE-K is probably slightly lighter than a 30DE due to the IM, right?
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And so are 5.5 gens slightly lighter overall than 5.0 gens? Probably improves front/rear weight distribution and handling and hurts traction.
Nope, but it's not enough of a difference to be perceptable.

01 Maxima SE 5spd: 3199lbs
02 Maxima SE 6spd: 3224lbs

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If the Maxima 6-speed is as beefy as the 350Z's 6-speed then that would explain it.
Old Oct 28, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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It appears the weight difference between a 3.5 and a 3.0 is not as much as originally thought. Scale was recently calibrated and accuracy is +/- 0.5 lbs.

This is a scale that was rented for an audited year end inventory.

Considering the original numbers that I had, I think it is time to get our shipping scale recalibrated.




No flywheel, exhaust manifolds or accessories on either engine.

You can deduct 3 lbs off of the display for the weight of the rope and engine slinger.
The 25 lbs. weight differential is even less because of the UDP on the 3.5 and the 3.0 is still full of oil and has the engine harness attached.

The IM on the 3.0 is just sitting on the top of the engine. It was a lot easier to unbolt it to install the rear engine slinger.

EDIT: To avoid anymore posts like the two below, that is a Fram oil filter on the 3.0 and a Nissan 15200-65F00 on the 3.5.
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that fram filter on the VQ30 sends chills down my spine.
Old Oct 28, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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whoa I guess all of us were way off....this whole time I've thought vq35s were 200lbs
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Originally Posted by SR-71 Blackbird
that fram filter on the VQ30 sends chills down my spine.
You consider that worse than what looks like a Jiffy Lube Mileguard filter on the VQ35?
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