Im thinking about getting a set of headers for my maxima
89se
im wondering if the pacesetter headers are any good.
what kind of sound difference will i notice. it also has the peice that replaces teh y pipe.
so its really intresting me.

anyone have any or know anyone who put any on a maxima?
pace setter amor coated headers 399$

Black pace setter headers 219$

 

They are crap.

 

Notice how they don't have a flex section anywhere on them. Oh, and I might have heard from a guy, who knows a guy, who's seen them on a car, and when the engine is revved up and held at 2500 rpm, even just sitting there, the primary tubes will glow red hot, even with jet-hot coating on them, because they are made of cheap-a$$ metal, and cuz there is a drastic bend in the two primaries that were glowing.
Oh, and the ones on the bottom look like the ones that the guy saw on that car, I asked the other guy to ask him. He wasn't sure what the other ones are for.
Yeah, so that dude told the guy I know to tell you guys to stay away from those Poopsetter headers.

 

yeah... get the warpspeed Y-pipe, and stock manifolds... plenty of power

 

I would not use these on a Maxima. The Y-pipe and stock manifolds will give you just as much power if not more and better reliability. I don't like the fact that there is no flex section. Me thinks you could ****** and break studs the first time you stand on the go pedal. I saw a car once where an exhaust shop eliminated a flex section on a FWD car and it lasted a block before ripping the studs out of the bottom of the manifold making for a costly repair. To be fair to Pacesetter, they do offer a lot of headers for vehicles that no one else will fool with. They aren't the best quality but if that's what's available, then those gains would be better than none. I have use them on Nissan trucks. The gains were good but the collector gasket always needed attention and I had to get them rewelded several times. Some of the PS headers I have seen for other vehicles would have too small primaries (restrictive at the port mouth) and/or too large of a collector. (22re Toyota comes to mind) I would like to see what a well designed high quality header would do for the VE and VG Maximas.

 

well my concern is how come 4cyl hondas and acuras have no flex section and they are fwd, for example ive seen 300whp+ setups with no flex section, and no problems.
does anyone else make headers. i hate stock manifolds. also mine sound like they are leaking around the gasgates

so im getting ready to pull them soon, and want something brand new goin on.
ive already got a 2.25inch custom mandrel bent piping with an hks dragger muffler
and im planning on getting the armor coated headers, and then a high flow cat or test pipe.
prob high flow cat.

but over all would those headers give it a better sound? any deeper.

 

cause our V6s are more prone to movement when floored than the Hondas. You got to remember, the B series engine has a high HP, low torque. Our motors have a high torque.

and if you're looking for a better sound, a good muffler and 2.5" piping will do that.

 

Actually the Honda headers have a Ball and socket joint at the end of the collector with spring loaded bolts on the clamp, so it does flex. I used to have a honda, and do alot of work on them.

yeah, that guy i was talking about also said that the headers did make the exhaust a little louder, but they also made the pulses coming out of the engine louder, due to thin crappy piping, so the exhaust leak sound got worse.

 

You can massage the inside of the stock maifolds, i did it, but there's not alot to be done, they are sort of a restricive design, as far as size, but there aren't really any obstructions in there. Like EVERBODY else sez, just get a Y-pipe. Besides, i don't care what these guys say, 3G maximas aren't hot-rods, just cool, sporty, pimp rides, that are kinda quick, and pretty reliable.

 

Cattman will make you a custom set for $$$$. They quoted me $850 two years ago but are supposed to be race quality. There used to be a couple of people on this board that had them but haven't seen a post in a while. No dyno reaults were posted that I know of. Y-pipe is the better way to go or custom build your own.

 

have nothing bad to say about the pacesetter....have had them for 2 years now and no problems what so ever...sounds amazing and performs amazing.....just hell putting them in considering they didnt fit....u will have to make modifications for fitting them

 

nothing bad to say and they didnt fit right...hmmm thats odd

 

well considering we were tallking about the performance and task for it I stand my case....funny how people just wanna pick at something.....its a forum enjoy it!!

 

what did you have to do to make them fit???
what needs to be modified, please feel me in.
Hey btw, ive got friends up in woodstock.

 

the primaries for the rear head...the flange for the y-pipe hits the steering rack, hard. And everything is a bear to line-up and get the joints to seal. I'm not picking, like I said, that "guy I know" really had all that stuff happen with "his" set of pacesetter headers with jet-hot coating on them.

 

I could get "that guy" to sell you "his" set if you really want to try them out.

 

defective headers maybe lol.
Ive heard good and bad about pacesetter
my brother had a set on his mazda pickup, and they cracked, he replaced them, never had a problem.
if someone made some headers for cheap, but good quality, and were widely availible, they would be rich if they fit vg's!

 

shouldn't you be asking for SR20DET headers instead? don't waste your money modding the VG since you'll be doing the swap.

 

only thing i had to do to make them fit was shorter bolts to draw them in better....the hardware they sent was wrong. Havent had them hit the steering rack yet. Its a risk i guess getting defective ones....i probably just got lucky....bmw lights dont fit either but we make them...its another mod.....there arent any other headers for our car and wont ever be...i made due with modifications...mine have the ceramic coating..

 

who do u know in woodstock...they got maxima's???

 

wish there was a way for me to add warpspeed y-pipe with my headers

 

The biggest problem I've had with PaceSetter was on a 22re Toyota. Toyotas have large (I think 10mm) exhaust studs and I had to elongate the bolt holes just to get the header pull up. It seems that PS headers are either hit or miss. I don't like the fact that the flanges don't fit to the heads properly. If the bolts holes aren't lining up right , then there's a good chance that the primaries aren't lining up evenly with the ports. I call that restriction. Thing is, you can't see how the "match" is with the header bolted in place. I used a PS on a Z24i in a hardbody and the gains were impressive. The only issue was having to get the flanges rewelded. I would not use the PS on a SR20 car because they have a fairly large exhaust ports. The good SR20 headers have 1 3/4" primaries; the PS has a much smaller primary thus bottlenecking the exhaust right at the port exit. I think if PS would initiate some quality control and make their products with a more consistent quality, they would get a lot better reputation.

 

i never said i was goin to use Pace setter headers on an sr20det, i jus said i might use them on my vg30e

 

i WAS a pacesetter dealer....till i bought my first Pacesetter product. Pacesetter is the worst FU**ING crap on the face of the planet. How are they even in business still? JUNK JUNK JUNK

 

Nissan makes some very good manifolds stock. For instance, the 84-89 300ZX Turbo manifolds have been proven to handle 400 whp. Compare those manifolds to the N/A VG manifolds and you'll see right away that the N/A manifolds should have a much higher flow capability. Granted there are a lot of factors that come in to play, the design still makes them look like they will flow very well.

Sure there could probably be some gains made from slightly modifying the stock manifolds but, compared to the [last] p[l]acesetter headers, they are much better.

 

Whats the website to Pick up the Warpspeed y pipe everybody keeps talking about?

 

www.warpspeedperformance.com

 

Oh damn.