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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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'93 Max Versus '93 Camaro z28

Having a choice problem guys.....I have a 4th gen Max already, but I need a second car for day-to-day driving while my weary '95 is modded and worked on .

The choice is, I have enough dough for either a '93 Camaro z28 , or a '93 VE Maxima SE

I'm seeing if yall have other cars, and how do you manage with them .I know the Max is better in most respects to the Camaro..but that V8 is awfully tempting...

Anyways, just post which way I should go, one way or another.....
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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Hummm How much is gas these days? How totally un-reliable are most domestic cars..... Go with the Max, you wont regret it. Just for the love of god dont get an auto Max.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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The Crap-maro will cost you a fortune in gas and to insure, and I wouldn't trust GM reliability in its 12th year, esp. with their wonky electronics and in a sports car that may have been driven hard.

Stick with the VE or just find a non-rusty third gen with a VG. All 3rd gens are good cars provided you don't have any major rust.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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Hummm How much is gas these days? How totally un-reliable are most domestic cars..... Go with the Max, you wont regret it. Just for the love of god dont get an auto Max.

I already have an auto Max, so that lesson has been learned.

The Max and the Camaro both use premium fuel, so gas savings are not much $ ........
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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I don't like late model GM products but that's me. A girl at work has a well maintained 99 Camaro and it's constantly giving problems. I have known other Camaro/Vette/Firebird owners that also have had major reliability issues. I won't even get started on the boat anchor GM 3.1 V6 fiasco with DexCool...
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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It all depends, what does each car have for a tranny? How many miles? Which is in better shape? Also, if you will be driving it in Chicago in the winter, I would advise against the camaro. FYI, I have a bit of experience with the 4th gen F-bodies and working on most anything in the engine bay is going to be a challenge. Just look at how they shoe-horned that eninge in there! But in all honesty, if I already had a max, I would be tempted by the camaro.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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I already have an auto Max, so that lesson has been learned.

The Max and the Camaro both use premium fuel, so gas savings are not much $ ........
Who was the crack-head trhat told you the Max needs premium?? NOT TRUE. Bank the extra .20/Gal
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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Who was the crack-head trhat told you the Max needs premium?? NOT TRUE. Bank the extra .20/Gal
premeum fuel is recommened for max performance it says it right on the gas lid

if the camero is a 6spd id be a very dificult disition if i were in your shoes id sell the auto 4th gen and buy both. an lt1t56 and VE5 would be a fantastic combo ofcourse and LS1 would be better
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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camaro = teh gay. my opinion maxima. of course we are going to be biased. but whatever
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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3rd gen max's are the ****!!!!!
5speed max's are sweet
im goin to marry mine.
POOP on a camaro. I eat camaro's with my max lol. im not a fan of domestics at all. But I can tell you this. if you know your stuff, that 3g max will be quicker then that camaro. I know mine is, also faster then a stock mustang gt 5spd. newer model.

Being that my mom owns a trans-am with a v8 350 ls1 and How much it eats gas, and how many probs she has had, I would never own one. I love the trans-am's because they are quick, and fun to drive, and nice cars to pick up girls in. But i would never own a v8, unless it was in a jacked up truck or n a jacked up Grand jeep cherokee lol
just my 2 cents. Make the right decision 3g max
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tripleGmax
camaro = teh gay. my opinion maxima. of course we are going to be biased. but whatever


Definately go with the Maxima in this case if you're going for a daily driver.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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1. stop modding the maxima
2. start modding a real car
3. Mustang > Camero
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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sorry tim....i never liked them. but i like 17 stock rims...got any?
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CyMax
Who was the crack-head trhat told you the Max needs premium?? NOT TRUE. Bank the extra .20/Gal
If you are going to make a statement like that you better provide both sides of the arguement so other members can make their own informed decision.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by subs1000w
premeum fuel is recommened for max performance it says it right on the gas lid

if the camero is a 6spd id be a very dificult disition if i were in your shoes id sell the auto 4th gen and buy both. an lt1t56 and VE5 would be a fantastic combo ofcourse and LS1 would be better
if it was an LT1 or LS1 + T56 you'd be an idiot not to mod that and keep the max as a daily driver
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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LS1 ws6 trans-am 6speeds are better then sex.
i drove this guys trans-am that was at a car meet, and i almost had a ceasure, i was in heaven. those cars are quick as heck, also they sound sooooooooooooooooooooo mean! im a big fan of deep tone exaust, sounds mean.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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if you get the z28, you wont want to go back to the maxima

id stay away from 93s and the first year bugs, go 94+
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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my .02 The camaro will always be faster and more fun to drive, given the same amount of $ put in.
the only true weak points on the camaro are:
LT1 Distributor and waterpump, do them both at the same time and only go delco.
also the lack of interior space is a major hinderance to me.

the max OTOH is a FWD family car, it will be more comfortable, but not as much fun. It won't be significantly more reliable except for the fact that I can guarantee that the camaro is BEAT. so it will need every wearable item replaced.

I'd make the camaro the modded monster and your max the beater.

BTW the VE is miles ahead of the 96 in terms of quality and feel.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Wow, lots of different opinions in this thread. If you are looking for a daily driver, go with the max. Otherwise, definately the camaro. Sure, it will have minor bugs in it, but what car doesn't? The VE has its share.... In my opinion, you cant beat an american V8. Easy to mod, sound awesome, and tons of low end torque.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
If you are going to make a statement like that you better provide both sides of the arguement so other members can make their own informed decision.

Sorry can't provide any proof. I just have never seen anything on the car, in the haynes, or chiltons, or the FSM, or alldata.com. Sure I don't have an owners manual, so there might be my folly. If I'm wrong, in the face of proof, I'll admit it in a heartbeat. Till then I'll say the dif bewteen reg and prem is less than one cleaning their EGR.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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If you buy the Camaro, mine won't be as original on here.

Old Nov 1, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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Is the '93 Camaro the "IROC" body style? Because if so, purchasing said car will require owner of said car to grow a mullet and put a harley sticker on the car and hang out at hooters.

But aside from that, and the pos domestic thing, and the gas thing, V8's are pretty fun, but NOT good daily sleds while the other Max is getting worked on/modded.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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P.S. - fat chicks love camaros and mustangs!
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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P.S. - fat chicks love camaros and mustangs!


Originally Posted by Dillbag
Is the '93 Camaro the "IROC" body style? Because if so, purchasing said car will require owner of said car to grow a mullet and put a harley sticker on the car and hang out at hooters.
The '92 was the last year for the 3rd gen body style. I like Hooters

Old Nov 1, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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Sorry can't provide any proof. I just have never seen anything on the car, in the haynes, or chiltons, or the FSM, or alldata.com. Sure I don't have an owners manual, so there might be my folly. If I'm wrong, in the face of proof, I'll admit it in a heartbeat. Till then I'll say the dif bewteen reg and prem is less than one cleaning their EGR.
Using lower octane gas will decrease performance. You can use 87 octane, but if your car knocks at all, the ECU will retard the timing and you will notice it.

My Maxima (VE30DE) and my Infiniti (VQ35DE) call for premium fuel in the owner's manual and on the cars themselves. My wife forgot and put 87 in the Infiniti and I drove it the next day. It was definitely sluggish and going uphill I could hear a slight knock. She had only put in $20, so I topped it off with 91 octane and within a few hours, it seemed to drive better.

I have never used lower octane fuel in the Maxima.


On the Camaro thing:

American V8 rwd cars (Camaro, Mustang, Firebird, etc) are a blast to drive, but they have a few things that can become big negatives.

1) Virtually worthless in the snow and ice. If you get a decent amount of either, be sure you have a decent winter rig.

2) Limited space for passengers and cargo. Rear seats are for little kids or very very short trips with adults.

3) V8s aren't very good on gas, especially around town. In my Mustang GT, I got great mpg on the freeway (28-30 mpg with the 3.08 stock gears), but around town was like 15 mpg. You also find yourself wanting to put your foot into it unnecessarily.

4) Insurance is usually higher on 2 door cars. It goes up for V8 and more if the car is classified as a sports car.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dillbag
Is the '93 Camaro the "IROC" body style? Because if so, purchasing said car will require owner of said car to grow a mullet and put a harley sticker on the car and hang out at hooters.

But aside from that, and the pos domestic thing, and the gas thing, V8's are pretty fun, but NOT good daily sleds while the other Max is getting worked on/modded.
meh, once you get used to it, 14mpg isn't *that* bad

you gotta pay to play... even if that does mean paying more for gas than insurance
Old Nov 2, 2005 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SEmy2K2go




The '92 was the last year for the 3rd gen body style. I like Hooters

I like hooters too.

The camaro can be fast, i just dont like the body style all that much. its really a personal decision....which one do you like better...
Old Nov 2, 2005 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcticW
Having a choice problem guys.....I have a 4th gen Max already, but I need a second car for day-to-day driving while my weary '95 is modded and worked on .

The choice is, I have enough dough for either a '93 Camaro z28 , or a '93 VE Maxima SE

I'm seeing if yall have other cars, and how do you manage with them .I know the Max is better in most respects to the Camaro..but that V8 is awfully tempting...

Anyways, just post which way I should go, one way or another.....
my recommendation....
if you like the maximas...get a 5th gen. turn your 4th gen into the day-to day car. go and mod a newer car...you know your 4th gen will run fine for a DD so why trust another car for a DD. any used car you'll need to do work on it to get it up to shape...but you don't know the history. at least you know your 4th gen is running ok (assuming the 4th gen is running ok). at least with a newer car you have a lower mileage platform to work on.
Old Nov 2, 2005 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tripleGmax
I like hooters too.

The camaro can be fast, i just dont like the body style all that much. its really a personal decision....which one do you like better...
What, are there only four Hooters girls in all of Ohio?

how much did you gheys have to pay those ***** to touch your cars?
Old Nov 2, 2005 | 06:35 AM
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haha dont be hatin'


no it was an ohionissans meet. someone told them to come out, they were freezing as it was like 40 something out.
Old Nov 2, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SEmy2K2go
If you buy the Camaro, mine won't be as original on here.

Does it have a 6 or 8 Cylinders?

I'd put up with awful insurance and gas if it meant 5 sec 0-60.

trouble is, i want to mod my '95,or at least upgrade it.It runs very well (Previous owner"pops" put in oil every 3000 miles) .
Old Nov 2, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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that car is all gutted now, hes turning it into a track star
Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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ArcticW: How about some feedback on your 2 car choices?
Old Nov 2, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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