Not to get this raging again, but I hope some of the guys from the first thread will chime in here. The Story:

I tried matching up disc 30100-40u14 (4th gen) with pp/cover 30210-89f00 (supposedly '00) and it didn't work - tranny made wimpy grinding noise, didn't engage when in gear and clutch pedal out.

I called Kenny Gomez at Pinnacle, and he's recommending pp/cover 30210-2y920 (supposedly '01). This is in contradiction to the post by DR-MAX and is30ds, where everyone concluded the hub was too small for the clutch disc.

In the meantime I ordered a 5th gen disc 30100-2y904 because my guess is that the disc and tranny interaction is the problem, not the pp. i should have test fitted the disc before install, i know.

Basically I will have 2 discs and 2 pp's in a few days. Can someone using a 4th/5th gen combo recommend a setup that will actually work? I just don't have time to tear the car apart again after this.

 

the parts I have are Clutch Disc 30100-40U14, Release Bearing 30502-41U20, clutch cover 30210-89F00. I really recomend this set up.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ghlight=clutch

 

on the clutch cover part#. You should have looked for this thread:http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=407691 , before ordering your stuff. All correct part numbers are at post #66.

Also, getting a 4th gen clutch cover also works with the 5th gen clutch disk. Unfortunately, Kenny Gomez didn't take note of the correct part numbers that I told them to use the next time someone wants this setup and are trying to get the parts from them...who ever listens to anyone these days? Kenny did call me on my cell yesterday to try to clarify the confusion.

Try that and you should be ready to go.

 

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....65#post4116065

Maybe this will help you out a little. I wish I had more to contribute, good luck with the clutch problem.

 

me and Maximus_95 did a clutch job about 2-3 months ago. We used 5th gen clutch disk with 4th gen pressure plate and it works w/o any problem. He said that it grabs real good.

 

yeah, read all those posts, have the same parts as Jsutter. I'll have to look into this further...

 

did you install the disc backwards?

 

This is the correct cover and disk combo you need. The cover that the gomez is recommending will NOT work.

 

is it possible to install the disc backwards? seems to me the center section with springs is raised and wouldn't sit against the flywheel...

 

It'll only go in one way. The raised side goes inside the pressure plate and the flat side goes on the flywheel.

 

yea its supposed to go one way. you have a weird probelm so im just trying to rule things out.

does it go into gear at all?

 

regardless of where the clutch pedal is, when I move the gearshift, it makes a weak grind and "goes into gear" but no power is sent to the wheels.

explanations I can think of:
could this be a hydraulic thing where the slave is keeping it disengaged?
bad/wrong clutch disc and input shaft is just spinning in it?
pressure plate not interacting with disc for some reason?

 

the pressure plate is not squeezing the disk to the flywheel

 

Sounds like it. How was the TO bearing when you had the tranny apart? Did you replace it? I'm also thinking, is the clutch hydraulics only involved when releasing the clutch or would it also have an effect when engaging the clutch. If so, maybe something is up with the master/slave/hydraulic lines. Did you bleed the system well? Just throwing some suggestions out there.

 

-new TOB; old one looked fine tho
-clutch pedal still feels like crap even tho I did a lot of bleeding and no air is coming out anymore. slave/master are new and i didn't bench bleed them, so there is possibly more air hiding.
-I think the hydraulics only disengage, so to test it i'm gonna remove the slave completely, and wiggle the release fork (pry gently) to see what happens.
-i'm stuck up at school with my dad's truck, so i haven't been able to do anything except think about this...

 

Since the clutch pedal still feels like crap you probably do have a problem with the slave or master.

Also, there is a small clip that holds the release bearing onto the fork, and maybe that clip popped out partially (or maybe all the way) during replace ment of the bearing (FSM does say to NOT reuse that clip) and so now the release bearing is contacting the clutch cover diaphram springs in an awkward manner.

 

thats a good thought, i noticed the old release fork retaining clip was out of position when i first reomved the tranny; got a new one and made sure it went in properly. I AM going to take a dentist mirror and look down there to see if i can visualize the TO/PP/disc interaction...

It would be great if this was all just a hydraulic issue and the tranny doesn't have to come off. Thanks for everyone's help, I'll post after Christmas when I know more.

--Chad

 

something a friend of mine suggested: should our flywheels have a step in them, or be perfectly smooth? mine is smooth.

secondly, now that i have the parts off the car, I notice that the 5th gen pp is .25" deeper than the 4th gen, and that there are TO bearing marks on the fingers despite only a total of about 5 mins of running. is it possible that this tiny difference could cause pressure between the pp and TO bearing, leaving my clutch functionally disengaged the whole time? the others who are using my part numbers have newer trannies, maybe there is a small design difference and my parts won't work with an early '95 model???

i think i'll be getting an original 4th gen pp and hopefully laying all this to rest...