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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Maxima one of the fastest FWD factory cars?

I know maximas can run low 14s stock with a manual transmission...is there any other cars out there that are FWD and run amazing times off the assembly line?

SRT-4 pops into my mind...also the Acura TL...and Honda Accord 6spd...what other FWD cars out there that pop into your mind?
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SRT4 and GTP, new Cobalt SS I think though not many of those have hit the track yet, the new grand prix with the LS4 or whatever that 5.2L V8 is. CL-S 6spd, Accord 6spd, RSX-S 6spd, Integra Type R, probably some others that I will think of in a minute.
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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I believe the mkIII vr6 gti did 14's
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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Hmm...interesting...now heres the golden question

What is the fastest FWD production car to date? In terms of 1/4th mile that is...not too interested in top speed or whatever other category u guys are thinking
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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All I am talking about is 1/4 mile, and it's gotta be the SRT-4. Maybe the new 5.2L Grand Prix, I've heard some rumors of mid-low 13s in them but I don't believe those rumors, though I have done absolutely no research on them.
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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is the taurus SHO fwd?
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:50 AM
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yeah, over on clubgp, fastest 5.3 gxp is running 13.68-13.7s, stock. same with srt4s, trapping a bit over 100mph.

some of those older northstar 4.6 v8 caddies were FWD to, pretty quick for its time
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http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...s.html#pontiac

Decent information re: the 5.3L GM Grand Prix engine
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in my fantasy world, the maxima is the fastest FWD car of its time.
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haha well we'd love to think so. But my grandma's 2005 TL will kill a new maxima so. and that SRT-4 omg, that car... dont even get me started im gonna get mad. How the hell do you get that much speed of that dinky little neon chassy. haha im kidding i know how but still.
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WHat's a chassy?
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haha well we'd love to think so. But my grandma's 2005 TL will kill a new maxima so. and that SRT-4 omg, that car... dont even get me started im gonna get mad. How the hell do you get that much speed of that dinky little neon chassy. haha im kidding i know how but still.
A 2005 TL is not going to kill a 6spd 5.5gen. Not a chance, unless the maxima driver can't drive. It might put a hurting on a 4th gen depending on how well the drivers can drive, but it won't be doing anything to a 5.5 gen.
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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what was the fasted 5.5 gen stock neal?
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id like to know too!
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 04:44 AM
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haha well we'd love to think so. But my grandma's 2005 TL will kill a new maxima so. and that SRT-4 omg, that car... dont even get me started im gonna get mad. How the hell do you get that much speed of that dinky little neon chassy. haha im kidding i know how but still.
The TL is fast, no doubt. But my 6th gen 6spd is a little quicker.
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well, i meant 4th gen max was the fastest of its time...

i'm living in the past, guys..
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what was the fasted 5.5 gen stock neal?
STICKY > joo

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=289125

although it may need to be updated.
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A 2005 TL is not going to kill a 6spd 5.5gen. Not a chance, unless the maxima driver can't drive. It might put a hurting on a 4th gen depending on how well the drivers can drive, but it won't be doing anything to a 5.5 gen.
I've beat stock maximas with that TL and its still faster than a 6th Gen auto.
and im pretty damn sure I could smoke a 5th Gen stick too ive got 50 horse stock on you. But keep in mind im also a 4th Gen. owner, but it gets killed.
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I've beat stock maximas with that TL and its still faster than a 6th Gen auto.
and im pretty damn sure I could smoke a 5th Gen stick too ive got 50 horse stock on you. But keep in mind im also a 4th Gen. owner, but it gets killed.
Since you quoted neal, where did he ever mention a 5th gen (00/01) or a 6th gen? He specifically mentioned a 5.5g, whereas you did not. So quoting him and the content of your reply are both invalid.
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Since you quoted neal, where did he ever mention a 5th gen (00/01) or a 6th gen? He specifically mentioned a 5.5g, whereas you did not. So quoting him and the content of your reply are both invalid.
true alright ill do this.


The 2005 TL will smoke anything that looks like that, stick or not. The rest is still valid as a seperate argument. But I'm not really sure if it'd beat a 5.5- 6 Gen stick most likely not. But it'll beat both in auto.
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You wont beat this one. Looks similar to the one in your pic..






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if its stock it will and with a y pipe and headers I'd kill it. Unless your hiding a turbo or something crazy else under there haha nice ride though. That TL houses 270hp stock if they made it in stick I'd just beat stock 6th Gen. sticks too. Because lets face it you can mod anything thats decent to start off with into something crazy.
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is the taurus SHO fwd?
yup. The 1st and 2nd gens were pretty quick. I think the fastest stock time is a 14.5 at ?95ish? in a stock 95 manual. (one of the moderators on Shoforums.com has pulled it consistently) So they are definately a good contender for the 4th and 5th gens.

btw- I've owned two 2nd gens.
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I've beat stock maximas with that TL and its still faster than a 6th Gen auto.
and im pretty damn sure I could smoke a 5th Gen stick too ive got 50 horse stock on you. But keep in mind im also a 4th Gen. owner, but it gets killed.

You've got alot to learn about racing if you believe that an auto TL (I'm assuming your grandmother's TL is an auto) is near as quick as a stock 2002-2003 6spd, let alone one with ypipe and headers as you mentioned. I'd be very surprised if that auto TL were able to beat my stock 4th gen beater, let alone a 14.1 second 5.5gen (the fastest stock 5.5gen). If you've got a timeslip that proves otherwise let me know.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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So does anybody have actual numbers of a stock TL 1/4 times? I'm sure theres a forum out there somewhere. That will eliminate some of the guess work.
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I think the vast majority of SHO owners can't drive, because those cars trap with, and often out-trap, stock 4th and 5th gens, and yet they don't do so hot in the ET department. I don't really believe in some cars being "impossible to launch well" so the logical culprit is the driver. On the highway the fastest stock SHOs (1st and 2nd gen) would beat the fastest stock 4th gen.
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So does anybody have actual numbers of a stock TL 1/4 times? I'm sure theres a forum out there somewhere. That will eliminate some of the guess work.

I'm a member of the TL forums and what I'm posting is what I've seen over there. I'm not guessing, I'm telling the guy what's what up based on the 1/4 mile times I've seen on that forum.
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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I think this Thread should read: "What is the fastest naturally aspirated FWD car?"

The SRT-4 is blown right? You run a VQ30DET-K and you would own most any FWD out there.
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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if its stock it will and with a y pipe and headers I'd kill it. Unless your hiding a turbo or something crazy else under there haha nice ride though. That TL houses 270hp stock if they made it in stick I'd just beat stock 6th Gen. sticks too. Because lets face it you can mod anything thats decent to start off with into something crazy.
Get off your high-horse about this TL dude.

You're not doing any "killing" in an auto TL against a 5.5gen 6-speed.

270hp= overrated? and it doesn't work like 270hp>255hp so TL wins.

Have you ran any Maxima's/know the true time for your slushbox?
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haha well we'd love to think so. But my grandma's 2005 TL will kill a new maxima so. and that SRT-4 omg, that car... dont even get me started im gonna get mad. How the hell do you get that much speed of that dinky little neon chassy. haha im kidding i know how but still.
My friend owns an SRT-4 and as a consequence I have hung around with the SRT-4 guys a lot. The stock 1/4 for them is around 13.8-14.1, I am not sure about their stock numbers for the 1/8 but I was riding passenger with him and we weight about 230lbs a piece so 460lbs added to the wet weight and we still pulled a 9.52 on the beat up Qualcomm track that we use for racelegal in San Diego. Anyone who is from SD, has been to the Qualcomm track, and reads this post will know how crappy that track is.

But point is, Maxima's (6th gen) are pretty decent stock but you couldn't even begin to say they're the fastest.
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listen beside the fact that my post was taken totally out of context is kinda funny. But to clear things up Ive beat a stock 6th Gen auto in the TL and my friend owns it so... another thing I said if the TL was made in stick it'd beat a 5.5 Gen stick and on (stock as well). I was also inferring that if I had a ypipe and headers I could pull even more of a gain. so calm down. Plus I own a 4th Gen. so its not like im against maximas.

... no way im beating a 5.5 on in stick with an Auto TL i never said that or implied it in the least. But ive beaten a stock regular 5th Gen in stick, also a friend of mine and from what I can tell hes a hell of a driver. keep in mind STOCK. later
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listen beside the fact that my post was taken totally out of context is kinda funny. But to clear things up Ive beat a stock 6th Gen auto in the TL and my friend owns it so... another thing I said if the TL was made in stick it'd beat a 5.5 Gen stick and on (stock as well). I was also inferring that if I had a ypipe and headers I could pull even more of a gain. so calm down. Plus I own a 4th Gen. so its not like im against maximas.

... no way im beating a 5.5 on in stick with an Auto TL i never said that or implied it in the least. But ive beaten a stock regular 5th Gen in stick, also a friend of mine and from what I can tell hes a hell of a driver. keep in mind STOCK. later

You still don't know what you're talking about. They do make the TL in 6spd, and it's still not faster than a 5.5gen 6spd. They have 258hp stock, not 270, they have 233ftlb of torque, and they weigh almost 300lbs more than a 5.5gen 6spd. So let's do the math: 3 more HP (completely negligable), 13ft-lb LESS torque (actually its more like 25ft-lb less since the 5.5G is underrated torque-wise) and 300lbs heavier. It's slower, end of story. You can argue that it isn't, but you'll still be wrong.
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fastest tl 6spd is around 14.0-14.1@99mph or so on the acura board, i saw it somewhere, too lazy to find link =)

but over 100mph, im pretty confident the TL is bit faster
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yea just let ppl what they wanna believe I strongly believe the TL is a bit faster. but w/e oh and btw to the guy that was talking about the horsepower, the 2005 TL was rated at 270hp and the only reason why the TL now reads 258 on the acura site is that they changed ways of measuring both hp and tq to a new SAE method they hadnt imposed yet. so your a bit wrong. but its cool w/e
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so the fastest acura tl is 14.0 , what is fastest 5.5 max?
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Fastest N/A? 12.8...
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lmao. a maxima, 12.8.......
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lmao. a maxima, 12.8.......
Are you saying that because you don't believe it or just because it's nuts that someone's gone that fast in an N/A maxima?
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lmao. a maxima, 12.8.......
It's true. That title belongs to SR20DEN and his '02.



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