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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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Project: New-style Front Lip - Done!

Since I've never liked any of the front lips out there, I decided to do some improvising. Thanks to "MaximumPerformance" in another thread who suggested to check out the Ford Mustang Mach 1 lower lip, since it is used by some of the Sentra guys.

-GREAT IDEA-

The Mach 1 lip (a genuine Ford product) costs under $100. It fits very nicely with some minor modifications. The modifications:
- cut some slits on the base of the lip where it "turns the corner" sicne our car is a bit more square than the mustang
- trim off a couple of inches at each end, where it meets the wheel well.

I used a bunch of Nissan large pop fasteners (the ones used for the under-engine splash guards) to attach the lip all the way around the

Overall, I really like the way it turned out. Not too flashy, but gives the front of the car a more aggressive look. With my Eibachs I'm not worried about scraping it on anything like speed bumps or such. With some of the more slammed cars that could be a problem.

Very happy with this project, which took about $100 and 1 hour to do. Hope you all like it (and if you don't, a hex be upon your family, haha). I know everyone isn't going to like it, but I was going for a more "sportscar" look rather than the usual "bling" looking front lip...

so, the pics of course. Sorry for the poor quality pics. It is SUPER bright sunny outside and hard to take pics with no glare. Plus, the car is wicked dirty.









Old Aug 18, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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ok look now.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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Hey, that looks pretty sweet. Looks really good actually.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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Very impressive, I think i will be headed down to Ford sooner or later now. Where exactly did you put the tabs, or did you make your own holes or attach to exsisting area?
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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Very impressive, I think i will be headed down to Ford sooner or later now. Where exactly did you put the tabs, or did you make your own holes or attach to exsisting area?
I just took the cordless drill out there with a bit the correct size for the tabs/clips, and drilled one in every 6-9 inches. I need to put 3-4 more on there once I get some more, which will straighten everything out nicely.

You can easily drill into the flat bottom of the lower lip and attach them.


I'll post some more close-ups for reference momentarily.
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How's that going to work with all that crazy snow driving you do?
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Wow, good work. I like it.

Just a suggestion, but you may want to drill a small hole at the end of your cuts to keep them from tearing any further. When it gets cold and/or at higher speads I could see a little stress start to increase the cuts.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Great craftsmanship!
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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more....close ups. btw, say goodbye to those 6th gen brake calipers in this pic. It's the last time you'll see them in a photo....









Old Aug 18, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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Not really feeling it, but nice idea. It reminds me of the g35sedan without the color matching bottom. Maybe I don't like it because it isn't flush under the bumper, I don't know.

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Originally Posted by zagzig
Wow, good work. I like it.

Just a suggestion, but you may want to drill a small hole at the end of your cuts to keep them from tearing any further. When it gets cold and/or at higher speads I could see a little stress start to increase the cuts.
excellent point. I'll make sure to do that tomorrow.

btw, this is pretty tough rubber these are made of, not the wimpy stuff you can buy at Home Depot or JC whitney. It has extruded edges so it won't "blow back" on the highway and whatnot.


Tim, should be fine in the winter, since my LTB is still lower

If it's an issue, I can take it off by simply popping all the tabs and taking the whole thing off.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Brilliant - so simple yet I would never think of it myself...
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Second set of pics seal the deal for me! Ahh yes Ye Ol Chipped bumper, I too suffer from this illness...
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Not really feeling it, but nice idea. It reminds me of the g35sedan without the color matching bottom. Maybe I don't like it because it isn't flush under the bumper, I don't know.


+1 imo

Its definitely creative and well done.........I just like ricier lips
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Originally Posted by cutter
Not really feeling it, but nice idea. It reminds me of the g35sedan without the color matching bottom. Maybe I don't like it because it isn't flush under the bumper, I don't know.

yeah, would have liked it flush, but since our lower lip is so curved, it was pretty much impossible to do it that way without a truly custom piece of rubber made with a high-angle backing surface. I just went to the furthest-most flat area I could use.

you guys know me though....I prefer the "track look" to the bling
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Hrm this looks surprisingly good, hehe irish you should put ur homedepo avatar back up. At first glance it looks funny but that straight ahead picture you got makes the car look like a BAMF. The more i look at it the more i wanna do this.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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This adds 10+hp to the wheels and gives it better handling right?
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I like how it matches with the lower sides of the car now. Blends the bumper in well with the rest of the lower half of the body. And kinda has that "old skool flava" to it. Reminiscent of the Datsun 510 lower lips.
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Hey irish just ondering but where did you cut it at? Like did you make releif cuts so it would flex or did you cut it because it was too long and would go into the fenderwell?
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Originally Posted by cutter
This adds 10+hp to the wheels and gives it better handling right?
well of course! why else would I do it

IN THEORY, though, lower lips do have a tendancy to smooth/"clean" the underbody airflow to some extent and help it bypass all the non-aerodynamic crap underneath the engine area. I haven't been on the highway or anything, and am not expecting to "feel" it, but in theory it could have that effect.

In truth, this is one of the few mods I did primarily just for some subtle improvement of looks. I've always hated how high up the front lower lip is on the 00-01 Maximas. They improved a bit on the 02-03.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by chopstix2nrz
Hey irish just ondering but where did you cut it at? Like did you make releif cuts so it would flex or did you cut it because it was too long and would go into the fenderwell?
both. The relief cuts you can see in the last pic of the first post, to help it flex "around the corner"

It is too long as well. out of the box, the ends were literally hitting the tires, so I clipped them and tried to make the ends "flow" into the fender. I did it with a utility knife, but plan to clean up the cut a bit using a dremel.

You can see my sloppy cut a bit in this pic

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Looks pretty decent im definately looking into this, props to you man for being a pioneer.
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Ah ok.. i was hoping it would be a bit longer, man id go out and buy one of these today but i have to pay my senior class fees on monday its sooo tempting though!
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Originally Posted by nismopc
. Reminiscent of the Datsun 510 lower lips.
ha! I was so hoping someone would reference that. It's more or less where the idea came from (that, and an E30 M3 that was at our last autocross and had a similar lower lip)....
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chopstix2nrz
Ah ok.. i was hoping it would be a bit longer, man id go out and buy one of these today but i have to pay my senior class fees on monday its sooo tempting though!
The pieces I cut off each end are about 4" long each, so it's 8" total longer out of the box than it is on my car.

Why would you want it longer?
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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Looks good. Now that you have pounded it to fit, paint it to match!
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Looks good. Now that you have pounded it to fit, paint it to match!
good idea....do you know where I can get any paint with that "pre-chipped" look to it?

rubber doesn't do real well with paint though. The plain rubber look I think gives it a sportier look than if it was painted anyhow.

The BMW and Subie guys love these kinds of lower lips

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looks really nice great idea Josh.......
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This needs to be added to the how to's
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wow, that's just awesome!!!

I'm definitely doing this mod. (hope you don't mind )
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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looks great! irish you are the man of modding my friend. i havent been on here in a while and you're still doing your thing. keep it up!
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Originally Posted by DrKlop
wow, that's just awesome!!!

I'm definitely doing this mod. (hope you don't mind )
you may refer to it as the "Irish Front Lip"
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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WOW!, this is definitely a classy mod!!...not too much and not too little...plus the price is just right!!...

i wonder how that would look on a glacier pearl car like mine??
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Originally Posted by irish44j
good idea....do you know where I can get any paint with that "pre-chipped" look to it?

rubber doesn't do real well with paint though. The plain rubber look I think gives it a sportier look than if it was painted anyhow.

The BMW and Subie guys love these kinds of lower lips

If you made it flush like those guys did, I think it would look 10x better. But I know the materials, blah, blah, blah. lol
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If you made it flush like those guys did, I think it would look 10x better. But I know the materials, blah, blah, blah. lol
you realize that that Subie is actually using one of those Home Depot rubber garage door seals as a lower lip

Yeah, price we pay for not having a squared fascia.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by nismopc
kinda has that "old skool flava" to it. Reminiscent of the Datsun 510 lower lips.
Simmilar to the 2nd gen Maxima and other European cars of yore. I'm really feelin it.
http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...31_10_full.jpg
Now get off your **** and get started on the back and sides. C'mon...ya know you want to. Or if it left like that, it still fits just fine. And yes, painting rubber is not good
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Looks ok to me but not my style. I still like the Stillen one the most.
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looks good from the front but a little too "shallow" from the sides



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