Slotted and drilled rotors. Is it true that....
Slotted and drilled rotors. Is it true that....
I heard that slotted and drilled rotors make brake pads wear much quicker due to the "cheese grating effect" ... to clarify, a cheese grater has holes in it that slice through cheese right? Well people say that slotted and drilled rotors have the same effect on brake pads, is this true??? I hope you guys understand what I am trying to say lol
they do increase wear, but not by a huge amount.
They do, though, usually end up getting hairling cracks around the drill holes, and then you get to buy new rotors.
Just get blanks.
Slotted+XD=
They do, though, usually end up getting hairling cracks around the drill holes, and then you get to buy new rotors.
Just get blanks.
Slotted+XD=
Originally Posted by Chunger
AP=Slotted+XD=

Yeah, wear is slightly more but pads (even good ones) are cheap for what they do... Get good pads.

Yeah, wear is slightly more but pads (even good ones) are cheap for what they do... Get good pads.
Anything less than the discs with cast-in holes made by Brembo or AP (or equivalent) will eventually crack and fail. But keep in mind Brembo does not do any cast-in crossdrilling, except for the cases where they make the OEM parts like on Porsche, Mercedes, Ferrari, etc. Any of the "Genuine Brembo Crossdrilled rotors" you buy for a Maxima were all blanks that someone else drilled and put back in a Brembo box..
Imposters, I tell ya!!
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
AP rotors != fleabay crap drilled rotors.
Anything less than the discs with cast-in holes made by Brembo or AP (or equivalent) will eventually crack and fail. But keep in mind Brembo does not do any cast-in crossdrilling, except for the cases where they make the OEM parts like on Porsche, Mercedes, Ferrari, etc. Any of the "Genuine Brembo Crossdrilled rotors" you buy for a Maxima were all blanks that someone else drilled and put back in a Brembo box..
Imposters, I tell ya!!
Anything less than the discs with cast-in holes made by Brembo or AP (or equivalent) will eventually crack and fail. But keep in mind Brembo does not do any cast-in crossdrilling, except for the cases where they make the OEM parts like on Porsche, Mercedes, Ferrari, etc. Any of the "Genuine Brembo Crossdrilled rotors" you buy for a Maxima were all blanks that someone else drilled and put back in a Brembo box..
Imposters, I tell ya!!
" FAQ
Are discs with cast-in-place holes better than cross-drilled discs?
Brembo has extensively studied and tested cross-drilling versus casting the holes in place and found no significant effect on performance or durability."
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Funny thing is although I've had custom slotted/drilled done on blanks... I usually didn't have problems with cracking from the chamfered holes. But then again I don't put them in real race conditions and i'm careful of cool down and not hosing them down while hot for car washes...
Originally Posted by Chunger
" FAQ
Are discs with cast-in-place holes better than cross-drilled discs?
Brembo has extensively studied and tested cross-drilling versus casting the holes in place and found no significant effect on performance or durability."
Are discs with cast-in-place holes better than cross-drilled discs?
Brembo has extensively studied and tested cross-drilling versus casting the holes in place and found no significant effect on performance or durability."
What else is the marketing department going to say about their own product? In an interview with Ferrari's (?) chief engineer, he said that they're basically for looks. His team would never use them in races - slots maybe, but not holes. Anyone verify this in photos?
Originally Posted by bigEL
Yeah...they both develop fractures equally fast.
What else is the marketing department going to say about their own product? In an interview with Ferrari's (?) chief engineer, he said that they're basically for looks. His team would never use them in races - slots maybe, but not holes. Anyone verify this in photos?
What else is the marketing department going to say about their own product? In an interview with Ferrari's (?) chief engineer, he said that they're basically for looks. His team would never use them in races - slots maybe, but not holes. Anyone verify this in photos?
Slots > holes. No cracking issues and far less surface area reduction.
Slots and holes will definitely chew pads a little faster. But dirt and grime will chew rotors if they don't have slots or holes to catch them. That's why, even though blanks always stop best, slots are best for the street if you want to replace your rotors as infrequently as possible.
I know I'm a little less lucky than most in this department for some reason, but when I had blank rotors they would get chewed to hell in a few thousand miles. Dirt would just get stuck between the rotors and the pads and score them to hell. Then I traded the blanks for slotted rotors and never looked back. My Brembo slotted rotors are on their third set of pads with no appreciable scoring (although they will definitely be replaced with this set due to normal wear).
Slots and holes will definitely chew pads a little faster. But dirt and grime will chew rotors if they don't have slots or holes to catch them. That's why, even though blanks always stop best, slots are best for the street if you want to replace your rotors as infrequently as possible.
I know I'm a little less lucky than most in this department for some reason, but when I had blank rotors they would get chewed to hell in a few thousand miles. Dirt would just get stuck between the rotors and the pads and score them to hell. Then I traded the blanks for slotted rotors and never looked back. My Brembo slotted rotors are on their third set of pads with no appreciable scoring (although they will definitely be replaced with this set due to normal wear).
Originally Posted by d00df00d
But dirt and grime will chew rotors if they don't have slots or holes to catch them. That's why, even though blanks always stop best, slots are best for the street if you want to replace your rotors as infrequently as possible.
Originally Posted by bigEL
It was my impression that the big advantage of slots is that they allow degassing under repeated extreme braking, which alleviates brake fade. It makes little/no difference in wear resistance.
I don't even think our braking systems are good enough to produce that effect under any kind of driving before something starts overheating and causing bigger problems...
Originally Posted by bigEL
I'm betting that the reason your blanks wore faster was because they weren't the same quality as your Brembo slots.
Originally Posted by d00df00d
That's what the manufacturers advertise. But given modern brake compounds -- i.e. anything decent made in the last 20 years or so -- in anything remotely resembling street driving, you're virtually never even going to see it, let alone is it going to matter much.
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agreed....slotted and drilled were originally made to vent gas buildup from organic pads, which cause alot of gassing when hot. hardly anyone uses organic pads anymore though...
Ive read slotted is reccomended only for racing applications as it eats up the pads much faster, cross drilled does not and can be used for regular driving. For this reason Id only put drilled if I was changing my rotors. I HATE cross drilled and slotted rotors.
Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx
Ive read slotted is reccomended only for racing applications as it eats up the pads much faster, cross drilled does not and can be used for regular driving. For this reason Id only put drilled if I was changing my rotors. I HATE cross drilled and slotted rotors. 

Both types are "recommended only for racing" in that they won't actually make a difference in stopping ability for street applications. Drilled rotors are more common in racing than slotted rotors because drilling is a better way to reduce the weight of the rotor. But, either type can be used for regular driving if you accept the higher cost and faster pad wear.
let me tell u this...on my blank Raybestos rotors....it took 20-35 of hard track session braking to get brake fad....and that was only because my fluid was boiling.......no need for drills....slots arnt as bad but u pay more for rotors with holes or slots.....hmmmmmmmmm
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