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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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rigged up a CAI...is this safe?

i got a place racing intake pipe for a 4th gen, used a dremmel and cut the pipe down about 7 inches.
slapped on a filter and two cuplets and this is what i got..
i figured that it would suck in cold air right through the grill.
or am i wrong...

and i painted my grill black...what do yall think??????????


Old Oct 2, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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looks good to me....
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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If it is right behind the radiator, it may actually get warm air that has been heated by the radiator as the air passes through. But it probably is cooler than where it would have been if you didn't do anything to it.
Does that make sense?
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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yea makes plenty of sense ...thanks man
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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CIA? you mean CAI? and its not



this is better, but still a WAI..
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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thats looks fine..but not a CAI
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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CAI(cold air intakes) run down into fender and draws in cool/cold air. What you have is a ram intake or a warm air intake. Sure it's closer to the outside, but you'e still drawing in warm air from the engine bay. Other that that, it looks good. Good job
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Why not put the stock snorkle back in? Cut it shorter so the opening is right where the filter is?
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Originally Posted by n3985
Why not put the stock snorkle back in? Cut it shorter so the opening is right where the filter is?
that snorkle does nothing
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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You could try putting a heat shield, but I'm not sure if it's really going to help let alone fit since the filter is closely fit between the battery and engine.

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true "CAI"

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actually, it's not OK. Here's why: there's a hose that runs from the intake piping to the valve cover to allow air into the valve cover during vacuum conditions. The computer expects this air to enter the valve cover and the MAF tells the computer how much air is going past it. This means that during certain times, the ECU thinks theres less air going into the combustion chamber than there actually is. This will cause the engine to run lean. Now, the O2's tell the computer that the engine is running lean, the computer gets conflicting information and starts to act funny and eventually goes into a safe air/fuel mixture taking away power. I've actually experienced it myself. The solution is to run a hose from the valve cover (you took one off it) into the intake pipe between the MAF and the throttle body.
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
that snorkle does nothing
I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you. Please be reading my post above and become learned, my son...
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GBAUER
actually, it's not OK. Here's why: there's a hose that runs from the intake piping to the valve cover to allow air into the valve cover during vacuum conditions. The computer expects this air to enter the valve cover and the MAF tells the computer how much air is going past it. This means that during certain times, the ECU thinks theres less air going into the combustion chamber than there actually is. This will cause the engine to run lean. Now, the O2's tell the computer that the engine is running lean, the computer gets conflicting information and starts to act funny and eventually goes into a safe air/fuel mixture taking away power. I've actually experienced it myself. The solution is to run a hose from the valve cover (you took one off it) into the intake pipe between the MAF and the throttle body.
George, isn't that the hose just downstream of the MAF in his pic? The PR has an attachment point for it....

btw, did you put the new wheels on yet?
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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maybe its just the picture but it appears like the upper radiator hose is touching the filter. that hose gets quite warm.
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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no the hose is not touching the filter...
in fact the filter is sitting right behind the fan..
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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u seem to have a point..
thanks man. really appreciate it.

so what about a breather filter to put on it, would that do any justice?....probably not huh?
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 96SEsleepa
u seem to have a point..
thanks man. really appreciate it.

so what about a breather filter to put on it, would that do any justice?....probably not huh?
That's how I found out the hard way... don't do it!
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Originally Posted by irish44j
George, isn't that the hose just downstream of the MAF in his pic? The PR has an attachment point for it....
Yep. That's the one. It's not connected by the looks of the pics.
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btw, did you put the new wheels on yet?
Yessir! I'll take pics and post them when I get over this damn cold. I also got all :narted: up and threw in a 10" X-Plode sub, 4 channell X-Plode amp, two 6-1/2" X-plode speakers up front and two 6-1/4" inifinity reference speakers in the rear doors. sounds as good as it looks now.
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Originally Posted by GBAUER
sounds as good as it looks now.
that bad, huh?
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GBAUER
Yep. That's the one. It's not connected by the looks of the pics.

Yessir! I'll take pics and post them when I get over this damn cold. I also got all :narted: up and threw in a 10" X-Plode sub, 4 channell X-Plode amp, two 6-1/2" X-plode speakers up front and two 6-1/4" inifinity reference speakers in the rear doors. sounds as good as it looks now.
what, you can't walk in to your swanky garage and take a quick pic, just for me???
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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looks like the vacume hoses are disconnected???
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
what, you can't walk in to your swanky garage and take a quick pic, just for me???
To answer your question: no. The cameras upstairs, my nose is running faster than a a 5.5 gen at WOT, I'm sneezing like an SOB, my ears are so stuffed that all I hear is basss, the car is outside in the garage, it's cold out there and my dog is laying on my lap and she won't let me move and my vagina hurts...

I'll take a pic with my cameraphone and send it to you tomorrow if it'll make you feel better! But, just to let you know, it looks damn good now. I've gotten "the nod" from a guy with a really nice S-2000 and a modified 5th in B-more (rims, clears and lowered, but not anybody from teh .org...). Never got nods before. I guess deh see me rollin'....

For the rest of you, I got these:

and put them on this:


pics to follow as soon as this damn cold goes away and I can clean my car again!
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Originally Posted by super6
looks like the vacume hoses are disconnected???
see my first post.


Old Oct 2, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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Could you post a picture of the black grill with the hood closed? I'm considering doing that on my car (same color). That might help me decide. I blacked out the HID housings and cleared the amber lens last week. The black grill might finish the look.
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Originally Posted by GBAUER
To answer your question: no. The cameras upstairs, my nose is running faster than a a 5.5 gen at WOT, I'm sneezing like an SOB, my ears are so stuffed that all I hear is basss, the car is outside in the garage, it's cold out there and my dog is laying on my lap and she won't let me move and my vagina hurts...

I'll take a pic with my cameraphone and send it to you tomorrow if it'll make you feel better! But, just to let you know, it looks damn good now. I've gotten "the nod" from a guy with a really nice S-2000 and a modified 5th in B-more (rims, clears and lowered, but not anybody from teh .org...). Never got nods before. I guess deh see me rollin'....

For the rest of you, I got these:

and put them on this:


pics to follow as soon as this damn cold goes away and I can clean my car again!
how heavy are they? Gonna use them for autocross in 2 weeks?
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how heavy are they? Gonna use them for autocross in 2 weeks?
The bare rims are 20 lbs each (not light, but lighter than stock). And, yes, I'll be sporting them.
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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is it ok for that hose to just hang there??

I got a pipe i can use but i dnt wanna leave the hose hanging.


that looks like a semi cold air btw
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Originally Posted by maxspeed96CT
is it ok for that hose to just hang there??

I got a pipe i can use but i dnt wanna leave the hose hanging.


that looks like a semi cold air btw
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actually, it's not OK. Here's why: there's a hose that runs from the intake piping to the valve cover to allow air into the valve cover during vacuum conditions. The computer expects this air to enter the valve cover and the MAF tells the computer how much air is going past it. This means that during certain times, the ECU thinks theres less air going into the combustion chamber than there actually is. This will cause the engine to run lean. Now, the O2's tell the computer that the engine is running lean, the computer gets conflicting information and starts to act funny and eventually goes into a safe air/fuel mixture taking away power. I've actually experienced it myself. The solution is to run a hose from the valve cover (you took one off it) into the intake pipe between the MAF and the throttle body.
actually, it's not OK. Here's why: there's a hose that runs from the intake piping to the valve cover to allow air into the valve cover during vacuum conditions. The computer expects this air to enter the valve cover and the MAF tells the computer how much air is going past it. This means that during certain times, the ECU thinks theres less air going into the combustion chamber than there actually is. This will cause the engine to run lean. Now, the O2's tell the computer that the engine is running lean, the computer gets conflicting information and starts to act funny and eventually goes into a safe air/fuel mixture taking away power. I've actually experienced it myself. The solution is to run a hose from the valve cover (you took one off it) into the intake pipe between the MAF and the throttle body.

I hope I stated it enough times for everyone.
Old Oct 2, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Not withstanding the engine control issue, you're sucking unfiltered air into the top of the engine (camshafts etc.) and crankcase areas at small throttle openings (low power) and blowing out pollutants into the atmosphere at the larger throttle openings (high power).
Old Oct 3, 2006 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GBAUER
actually, it's not OK. Here's why: there's a hose that runs from the intake piping.....
Sorry to cut that wonderful explanation short, but does that have anything to do with the temperature sensor(I believe) that was attached to the snorkel(3.0)? Currently, mine's is not located in the flow of intake air as it used to be since I removed my snorkel.
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Originally Posted by Yayomax
Sorry to cut that wonderful explanation short, but does that have anything to do with the temperature sensor(I believe) that was attached to the snorkel(3.0)? Currently, mine's is not located in the flow of intake air as it used to be since I removed my snorkel.
nope. The temp sensor is integral to the MAF on the 5.5 gens.
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Originally Posted by GBAUER
That's how I found out the hard way... don't do it!
OH Rats@#$#@. That explains a lot. Fixing mine this weekend. I had a huge feeling. I hope this resolves my knock sensor codes. MY rear O2 is already dead.
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OH Rats@#$#@. That explains a lot. Fixing mine this weekend. I had a huge feeling. I hope this resolves my knock sensor codes. MY rear O2 is already dead.

replace the line and reset your ECU and it should be fine on the first issue. it may or may not resolve the knock sensor codes.
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