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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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Did the Z IM make power over the stocker?

Hello,
Seems like I've seen a dyno for this but can't find it now. Did the Z intake manifold make any power over the stock FWD 3.5L intake manifold or has nobody tested it yet?

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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I am pretty sure it lost power due to the lack of exhaust VTCs
Old Nov 3, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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Here it is:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=475915

Originally Posted by meximax
Highlights:

-FWD IM makes 25 ft/lb of torque more than Z33 (no spacer) @ 3500 rpm
-FWD IM makes 17 ft/lb of torque more than Z33 (no spacer) @ 4300 rpm
-FWD IM makes 20 hp more than Z33 (no spacer) @ 6900 rpm
-Z33 makes ~18 hp more during the VI change point @ 5800 rpm
Old Nov 3, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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Thanks, and OUCH!

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by scrhale
I am pretty sure it lost power due to the lack of exhaust VTCs
To date, people have only used Z33 IMs from 287 hp motors which do not have exhaust VTCs.

Maybe you mean intake VTCs. AFAIK only Vasily and myself have 3.5 swaps with Z33 IMs and functioning intake VTCs.
I am not aware of any A33B owners that have installed Z33 IMs.
Old Nov 3, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by eng92
AFAIK only Vasily and myself have 3.5 swaps with Z33 IMs and functioning intake VTCs.
How much have you two dyno'd at or have you yet?

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Fred Allen Burge
How much have you two dyno'd at or have you yet?

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Vasily has dynoed. It was nothing spectacular but he was lacking headers and any sort of tuning at the time.

I am doing a lot of flow testing and material removal inside my Z33 IM right now. I am hoping to be finished before the snow flies so I can dyno it.

I only plan to dyno once so I want to have everything optimal before I go. It may have to wait until the spring.
Old Nov 3, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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I see, are you using an aftermarket spacer as well? The seem to be the hot ticket for the Z guys.

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by eng92
Vasily has dynoed. It was nothing spectacular but he was lacking headers and any sort of tuning at the time.
Yeah he put down around 225 whp 240 tq with stock headers. Had quite a bit of potential there.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=466571
Old Nov 3, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Fred Allen Burge
I see, are you using an aftermarket spacer as well? The seem to be the hot ticket for the Z guys.

Fred
I have not yet. The IM just clears my hood now when closed. I would have to drop the engine about 1/4" if I go with the spacer.

I am concentrating on equalizing the pressure drops between cylinders for a given flow. They are horribly out of whack in stock form (close to 50% variation) I have dropped it considerably without messing with the runner lengths too much. If I cannot get it to where I am satisfied, then I will get a spacer.
Old Nov 3, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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225 whp and 240 tq is nothing spectacular for a bone stock maxima? i can only imagine what happens when headers and tuning come into play.
Old Nov 3, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by vq354thgen
225 whp and 240 tq is nothing spectacular for a bone stock maxima?
Are you asking or telling?
Old Nov 3, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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Are you asking or telling?
hmm lets just say both.
Old Nov 3, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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Where's your dyno?
Old Nov 3, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by vq354thgen
225 whp and 240 tq is nothing spectacular for a bone stock maxima? i can only imagine what happens when headers and tuning come into play.
it's not bone stock...it had intake/Z33IM/catback

stock 2k2 6spds put down 205whp....he made 225whp....so those 3 mods gave him 20whp....throw in some cattman headers and a test pipe...with air fuel tuning...he'll be in the 250whp range...
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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test pipe hasnt proven of any gains
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxBlack97
test pipe hasnt proven of any gains
He may have meant it in the context of it being a prime placement for a wbo2.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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I didn't dyno or have VTC's but I am comparing my car before/after the Z33 IM.

Stock 2k2 IM vs. Z33 IM, I seemed to average better quarter mile times on the Z33 with worse conditions. But then again the "after" setup had HS headers instead of stock headers and a y-pipe as well. I also beat my previous trap by 2 mph, and ran 2 tenths faster with a 1 tenth slower 60ft.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
Stock 2k2 IM vs. Z33 IM, I seemed to average better quarter mile times on the Z33 with worse conditions. But then again the "after" setup had HS headers instead of stock headers and a y-pipe as well. I also beat my previous trap by 2 mph, and ran 2 tenths faster with a 1 tenth slower 60ft
Too many variables to be anywhere near conclusive.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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My best 1/4 times have come from the stock 2k2 IM, I have a higher trap with the modified IM ie 111 vs 108 but my best et is from the stock IM. The totally modified 350Z IM ie spacer etc etc was in the middle, waste of money unless you are running cam timing and then I am not sure of the results.
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