View Poll Results: which one ?
EU
23
37.10%
Jwt w/ mevi program
22
35.48%
Zex wet kit 55-75 shot
17
27.42%
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EU, JWT w/ mevi prog.,or nitruos?
EU, JWT w/ mevi prog.,or nitruos?
I just purchased a mevi and now have a full 2.5 inch exhaust. (i know the 00vi is better , but the price was to good too let go) anyway my question is should i get a EU and get it tuned(will get pricey) , get a jwt ecu with the mevi program(will also get pricey) or should i just do a zex wet kit?(not too pricey) All opinions welcomed.
Originally Posted by babymac
Maybe somebody can move this to the all motor forum??? MOds??
EU is the most precise way, but also expensive and involved. ECU is obviously the easy way, not quite as expensive, but being able to make changes yourself isn't possible.
It's up to how much you want to spend and how good you want to tune your car.
Originally Posted by ethnic6
whatever u do, don't do a nitro, cause I think its just a waste of money unless u street race, and we don't like street racers...
and for those who say EU is the way to go, what kind of gains are we looking at from an EU???
Thats only what people that put $4000 + and tons of time and tuning into their car..only to then go vs a almost stock max with nitrous and get beat say.... 
Originally Posted by ethnic6
whatever u do, don't do a nitro, cause I think its just a waste of money unless u street race, and we don't like street racers...
if your willing to learn babymac or already know how to tune, the EU and a wb02 would yield good result all accross the board, versus nitrious that would either kick in with a WOT switch, or when ever you pushed the button.
JWT could be the middle ground, get a half decent tune without you having to datalog and make adjustments yourself.
JWT could be the middle ground, get a half decent tune without you having to datalog and make adjustments yourself.
no i dont know how to tune. thats the thing...im not really sure HOW you tune. and are we talkin about squeezing out 5 horsepower. cause i'll spend 500 on a 3.5 before i go into tuning all this for minimal results.
for those that dont know. Danymax who tuned his car with the EU, who has most of the basic bolt ons most would have plus the 00vi, is making ~ 220hp and ran close to flat 13's on his 3.0
the power of good tuning, is a good thing.
the power of good tuning, is a good thing.
Originally Posted by MDeezy
for those that dont know. Danymax who tuned his car with the EU, who has most of the basic bolt ons most would have plus the 00vi, is making ~ 220hp and ran close to flat 13's on his 3.0
the power of good tuning, is a good thing.
the power of good tuning, is a good thing.
Wow
If I I did do the nitruos it would only be for the track and not any street racing.
The jwt idea is sounding the best so far just becuause of the money and time that will go into tuning a eu.
I think a happy medium would be to get all the bolt on's and run a jwt computer for a all motor set-up and then swap in a stock computer and run a 75 shot(again only at the track with the nitrous i'm 28 with a house and kids I don't street race ........anymore.) what do you guys think about that??
Originally Posted by Cdg2125
EU. Sell the mevi and get the 00vi....it's so much more worth it.
money wise doesnt make sense since it's only a little more than a MEVI and gains so much more power. Plus the fact that you now need to buy a very expensive EU to give more power....not sure what made sense there. I feel like work is what makes your car...but whatever, you bought what you bought.
Well. Just check my sig for the info on a JWT ECU and MEVI.
I've chosen this setup mainly because I didn't have much time to fine tune with an EU. Even though I could have easily have had my brother tune it with his Wideband as well, I didn't feel like dumping too much time/money into my daily driver (bought for 2500).
However, I didn't want to be driving around everyday in any car that would be getting killed by all the little GSR/LS swapped civics driving around thinking that they the shiznit (for all the 11 second cars, that's what the project car is for). So, I went with the ECU and MEVI.
If this maxima IS going to be your project car and If you're looking for the most power all motor and wanna spend some more money and have the time and patience to tune. Go 00VI with EU.
If you have even more money, get the Nitrous (have extra money to constantly refill, once you've sprayed you're gonna get hooked). Fine tune with necessary fuel and spark upgrades and either get a JWT nitrous tune or have a shop fine tune the spray. Just in case you have a stock clutch, better start saving up to upgrade for spray or all-motor monster.
I've chosen this setup mainly because I didn't have much time to fine tune with an EU. Even though I could have easily have had my brother tune it with his Wideband as well, I didn't feel like dumping too much time/money into my daily driver (bought for 2500).
However, I didn't want to be driving around everyday in any car that would be getting killed by all the little GSR/LS swapped civics driving around thinking that they the shiznit (for all the 11 second cars, that's what the project car is for). So, I went with the ECU and MEVI.
If this maxima IS going to be your project car and If you're looking for the most power all motor and wanna spend some more money and have the time and patience to tune. Go 00VI with EU.
If you have even more money, get the Nitrous (have extra money to constantly refill, once you've sprayed you're gonna get hooked). Fine tune with necessary fuel and spark upgrades and either get a JWT nitrous tune or have a shop fine tune the spray. Just in case you have a stock clutch, better start saving up to upgrade for spray or all-motor monster.
Originally Posted by Cdg2125
money wise doesnt make sense since it's only a little more than a MEVI and gains so much more power. Plus the fact that you now need to buy a very expensive EU to give more power....not sure what made sense there. I feel like work is what makes your car...but whatever, you bought what you bought.
The 00vi is great but, I didn't buy that , so this is why i want opinions on what I have not what i should have gotten.
thanks guys
Originally Posted by 1chewabacha1
Well. Just check my sig for the info on a JWT ECU and MEVI.
I've chosen this setup mainly because I didn't have much time to fine tune with an EU. Even though I could have easily have had my brother tune it with his Wideband as well, I didn't feel like dumping too much time/money into my daily driver (bought for 2500).
However, I didn't want to be driving around everyday in any car that would be getting killed by all the little GSR/LS swapped civics driving around thinking that they the shiznit (for all the 11 second cars, that's what the project car is for). So, I went with the ECU and MEVI.
If this maxima IS going to be your project car and If you're looking for the most power all motor and wanna spend some more money and have the time and patience to tune. Go 00VI with EU.
If you have even more money, get the Nitrous (have extra money to constantly refill, once you've sprayed you're gonna get hooked). Fine tune with necessary fuel and spark upgrades and either get a JWT nitrous tune or have a shop fine tune the spray. Just in case you have a stock clutch, better start saving up to upgrade for spray or all-motor monster.
I've chosen this setup mainly because I didn't have much time to fine tune with an EU. Even though I could have easily have had my brother tune it with his Wideband as well, I didn't feel like dumping too much time/money into my daily driver (bought for 2500).
However, I didn't want to be driving around everyday in any car that would be getting killed by all the little GSR/LS swapped civics driving around thinking that they the shiznit (for all the 11 second cars, that's what the project car is for). So, I went with the ECU and MEVI.
If this maxima IS going to be your project car and If you're looking for the most power all motor and wanna spend some more money and have the time and patience to tune. Go 00VI with EU.
If you have even more money, get the Nitrous (have extra money to constantly refill, once you've sprayed you're gonna get hooked). Fine tune with necessary fuel and spark upgrades and either get a JWT nitrous tune or have a shop fine tune the spray. Just in case you have a stock clutch, better start saving up to upgrade for spray or all-motor monster.
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"If I bought a 00vi and wanted the same topend i would have to buy a eu or jwt anyway"
You are mistaken chief. 00VI does not require ANY ECU or tuning to wield the power sent by the Maxima gods. The MEVI loses a lot of low-end and mid-range thus requires an ECU or EU to recoop. I think If you just bought EU and didn't get WB02 then you are preparing yourself for the future.
EX: You first get the 00VI in and drive on a top-end high. Then you want more power? Install EU, but don't pay or have it tuned entirely. Just increase the timing across the board by 7 or 8 (Isn't that what JWT does) and extend your rev-limiter. THEN when you want more, you buy WB02 and tune A/F . My method is actually the cheapest in EVERY situation granted that people are finding 00VI for as little as $200 versus the $400 that I used to see MEVI's flying around here.
You are mistaken chief. 00VI does not require ANY ECU or tuning to wield the power sent by the Maxima gods. The MEVI loses a lot of low-end and mid-range thus requires an ECU or EU to recoop. I think If you just bought EU and didn't get WB02 then you are preparing yourself for the future.
EX: You first get the 00VI in and drive on a top-end high. Then you want more power? Install EU, but don't pay or have it tuned entirely. Just increase the timing across the board by 7 or 8 (Isn't that what JWT does) and extend your rev-limiter. THEN when you want more, you buy WB02 and tune A/F . My method is actually the cheapest in EVERY situation granted that people are finding 00VI for as little as $200 versus the $400 that I used to see MEVI's flying around here.
Originally Posted by scrhale
"If I bought a 00vi and wanted the same topend i would have to buy a eu or jwt anyway"
You are mistaken chief. 00VI does not require ANY ECU or tuning to wield the power sent by the Maxima gods. The MEVI loses a lot of low-end and mid-range thus requires an ECU or EU to recoop. I think If you just bought EU and didn't get WB02 then you are preparing yourself for the future.
EX: You first get the 00VI in and drive on a top-end high. Then you want more power? Install EU, but don't pay or have it tuned entirely. Just increase the timing across the board by 7 or 8 (Isn't that what JWT does) and extend your rev-limiter. THEN when you want more, you buy WB02 and tune A/F . My method is actually the cheapest in EVERY situation granted that people are finding 00VI for as little as $200 versus the $400 that I used to see MEVI's flying around here.
You are mistaken chief. 00VI does not require ANY ECU or tuning to wield the power sent by the Maxima gods. The MEVI loses a lot of low-end and mid-range thus requires an ECU or EU to recoop. I think If you just bought EU and didn't get WB02 then you are preparing yourself for the future.
EX: You first get the 00VI in and drive on a top-end high. Then you want more power? Install EU, but don't pay or have it tuned entirely. Just increase the timing across the board by 7 or 8 (Isn't that what JWT does) and extend your rev-limiter. THEN when you want more, you buy WB02 and tune A/F . My method is actually the cheapest in EVERY situation granted that people are finding 00VI for as little as $200 versus the $400 that I used to see MEVI's flying around here.
LIsten I don't have the 00vi nor will I and i am sick of hearing about it. The mevi is a great mod and that's it. I don't think that I can do it(00vi) and I picked up the mevi cheap, so whats the big deal. the 00vi is superior yes , but cost alot more atleast when I priced it and requires some decent mechanically ability and alot of modifying, whiich the mevi doesn't, and with a ecu the mevi is pretty leathal. I am happy with my purchase and NEVER asked about the 00vi. Look at my pole question.
btw the only dyno I saw of the two was the one with the extended revlimiter, so that's why i said at the top they both gain 25hp. They were both 200whp cars too. One just makes power differently the the other.
and another thing there is no such thing as a COMPLETE 00VI for 200 bucks! More like 400 and up and I'm talking complete. Then there is still stuff you have to buy and modify.
when you could have much more control for the same price (EU/EB)
Originally Posted by scrhale
"If I bought a 00vi and wanted the same topend i would have to buy a eu or jwt anyway"
You are mistaken chief. 00VI does not require ANY ECU or tuning to wield the power sent by the Maxima gods. The MEVI loses a lot of low-end and mid-range thus requires an ECU or EU to recoop. I think If you just bought EU and didn't get WB02 then you are preparing yourself for the future.
EX: You first get the 00VI in and drive on a top-end high. Then you want more power? Install EU, but don't pay or have it tuned entirely. Just increase the timing across the board by 7 or 8 (Isn't that what JWT does) and extend your rev-limiter. THEN when you want more, you buy WB02 and tune A/F . My method is actually the cheapest in EVERY situation granted that people are finding 00VI for as little as $200 versus the $400 that I used to see MEVI's flying around here.
You are mistaken chief. 00VI does not require ANY ECU or tuning to wield the power sent by the Maxima gods. The MEVI loses a lot of low-end and mid-range thus requires an ECU or EU to recoop. I think If you just bought EU and didn't get WB02 then you are preparing yourself for the future.
EX: You first get the 00VI in and drive on a top-end high. Then you want more power? Install EU, but don't pay or have it tuned entirely. Just increase the timing across the board by 7 or 8 (Isn't that what JWT does) and extend your rev-limiter. THEN when you want more, you buy WB02 and tune A/F . My method is actually the cheapest in EVERY situation granted that people are finding 00VI for as little as $200 versus the $400 that I used to see MEVI's flying around here.
200? Yeah right. i have yet to see a complete 00VI setup go for that low. Its also not a direct bolt on and requires some fabbing to get it on.
Even with the 00vi your going to need to do something about the rev limiter if you want to gain all it offers so it will require an ECU upgrade or some tuning with the EU. Stock ECU cuts off at 6500, the extra 500+ rpms really help out on the top end.
MEVI loses power in the mid range, not the low end, and its not that horrible. It is there, but once you get the ecu upgrade its not noticable anymore, especially when compared to the gain on the top end.
With the amount of time it takes to get the ECU back from JWT, and the cost it would be more practical to go with the EU, unless you can find a JWT ecu in the F/S section for a good price.
Originally Posted by chillin014
no i dont know how to tune. thats the thing...im not really sure HOW you tune. and are we talkin about squeezing out 5 horsepower. cause i'll spend 500 on a 3.5 before i go into tuning all this for minimal results.
Good luck on doing a 3.5 swap for 500.00, Oh, and you will still have to do some tunning with the 3.5 if your using the A32 ECU.
Originally Posted by MDeezy
for those that dont know. Danymax who tuned his car with the EU, who has most of the basic bolt ons most would have plus the 00vi, is making ~ 220hp and ran close to flat 13's on his 3.0
the power of good tuning, is a good thing.
the power of good tuning, is a good thing.
To anyone who's interested, my 1/4 mile times are in my sig below, or in the timeslip database, take your pick.
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You can get the upper intake manifold for only ~130-160 on car-part. After that you just need an adaptor from Stephen Max for your throttle body (~$50-80) and an 00 EGR Guide tube (~$20). This assuming you drill your own lower and mount the IACV your own way.
Originally Posted by scrhale
You can get the upper intake manifold for only ~130-160 on car-part. After that you just need an adaptor from Stephen Max for your throttle body (~$50-80) and an 00 EGR Guide tube (~$20). This assuming you drill your own lower and mount the IACV your own way.
I think I will go with the eu but, gotta find somebody local to help me out with the tune.
So in summary I'm KEEPING my mevi and getting eu.........Final answer.
ps. and maybe down the road run a zex kit on a different map of course.
So in summary I'm KEEPING my mevi and getting eu.........Final answer.
ps. and maybe down the road run a zex kit on a different map of course.
Originally Posted by scrhale
You can get the upper intake manifold for only ~130-160 on car-part. After that you just need an adaptor from Stephen Max for your throttle body (~$50-80) and an 00 EGR Guide tube (~$20). This assuming you drill your own lower and mount the IACV your own way.
Now there are many ways to do the 00VI setup, and from the parts you listed your stating to use the
00VI
4th gen lower IM
4th gen TB (need adapter plate)
4th gen IACV (need adapter plate)
4th gen injectors and fuel rail
00 EGR tube
What about the rear valve cover and rear coils? From what Ive read, its best use these items from the 00 also.
You will also need an RPM switch.
So all of this for 200??
Originally Posted by eckounltd287
save up, get the rest of the bolt ons. and then the ecu
I’ve noticed a lot of people getting very caught up on the Emanage Ultimate. It is a great tool for tuning but if one has a 00vi or Mevi the EU isn’t the only way to tune it. For the price of an EU one could purchase a good WBo2 and a SAFCII or VAFCII and tune themselves and pick up some power with some fine tuning. Now with the EU in capable have, yes you can really take it to another level and extract more power but a half decent AFC can do a good job. . . atleast a decent enough job as a JWT tune. Also depending on how much fuel is pulled back, timing will start to advance.
Originally Posted by MDeezy
I’ve noticed a lot of people getting very caught up on the Emanage Ultimate. It is a great tool for tuning but if one has a 00vi or Mevi the EU isn’t the only way to tune it. For the price of an EU one could purchase a good WBo2 and a SAFCII or VAFCII and tune themselves and pick up some power with some fine tuning. Now with the EU in capable have, yes you can really take it to another level and extract more power but a half decent AFC can do a good job. . . atleast a decent enough job as a JWT tune. Also depending on how much fuel is pulled back, timing will start to advance.