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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Fuel Injectors?

I was trying to do some window shopping on google to find out what place might be the cheapest to get a full set of injectors from and saw this site:
http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/Injector_SetsNISSAN.asp

6/Set: $339.50
Plus $90 Refundable
Core Charge

Seams REALLY cheap; almost half of anyone else. My thoughts are that they are most definatly remanufactored, but hell if they work for another 150k miles, then awsome for that price. So any thoughts? Opinions?
Old Dec 6, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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Waste of money if they are remans....

Used injectors would be preferable to remans imo...
Old Dec 6, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
Waste of money if they are remans....

Used injectors would be preferable to remans imo...
Any reasoning behind that?
Old Dec 6, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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Any reasoning behind that?
Remans have a high failure rate....
Old Dec 6, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
Remans have a high failure rate....
No bueno!

Guess I'll just have to save up to buy new then
Old Dec 6, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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No bueno!

Guess I'll just have to save up to buy new then
Yeah,if you plan on keeping the car,then i would not put in any less than new..
Old Dec 6, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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they're remanufactured, 3 year warranty though. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissa...ayphotohosting
Old Dec 6, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hectic
they're remanufactured, 3 year warranty though. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissa...ayphotohosting
Awsome thanks. Yeah a 3 year warrenty with it would be PERFECT! I plan to rebuild the engine in a year or two (for the experience) and make it into a show car. Well that might be the way to go then....now to just get the $300 lol!
Old Dec 6, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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you might want to check if it's a full warranty though. from how it reads it seems like maybe if the coils go, you won't be covered.
Old Dec 6, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hectic
you might want to check if it's a full warranty though. from how it reads it seems like maybe if the coils go, you won't be covered.
Yeah something I will have to look into when I actually have money for em.
Old Dec 7, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Ok, I will repeat what I said in another thread.
I have spoken to multiple rebuilders that are reputable and they all say that they are lucky if 5% of all maxima injector cores are rebuildable. of those that are rebuilt and met spec, they fail about 1/2 the time.
Those are #s from GOOD rebuilders. the cheapo rebuilders that you typically find on ebay problem have a higher defect rate.

Because of remans I replaced 7 injectors on my first VE
Old Dec 7, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
Ok, I will repeat what I said in another thread.
I have spoken to multiple rebuilders that are reputable and they all say that they are lucky if 5% of all maxima injector cores are rebuildable. of those that are rebuilt and met spec, they fail about 1/2 the time.
Those are #s from GOOD rebuilders. the cheapo rebuilders that you typically find on ebay problem have a higher defect rate.

Because of remans I replaced 7 injectors on my first VE
Damn you and convincing me to make the choice of going with new ones..

Thanks
Old Dec 7, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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And even if the ones with the 3yr warranty have a all inclusive warranty, how many times would you feel like ripping out 1-6 injectors to send in to get replaced? Yea didn't think so. Buy new, then theres no worries.

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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 05:05 AM
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If you need a set of stock rebuilt injectors give us a call

www.deatschwerks.com

405 415 6862
Old Dec 8, 2006 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
Ok, I will repeat what I said in another thread.
I have spoken to multiple rebuilders that are reputable and they all say that they are lucky if 5% of all maxima injector cores are rebuildable. of those that are rebuilt and met spec, they fail about 1/2 the time.
Those are #s from GOOD rebuilders. the cheapo rebuilders that you typically find on ebay problem have a higher defect rate.

Because of remans I replaced 7 injectors on my first VE

What are these "rebuilders" replacing on the injectors? Are they trying to replace the coil?
Old Dec 9, 2006 | 02:06 AM
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save your money and do what I did:

http://web.syr.edu/~bvtran/injectors.pdf

I paid $60 at http://www.witchhunter.com/ to have it clean up. They're the same process those remanufacturers used. Just be sure your injectors resistance are ok before you proceed. Otherwise, head to the junkyard and pick some up and sent in for rebuilt.

Originally Posted by Wolf-Strong
I was trying to do some window shopping on google to find out what place might be the cheapest to get a full set of injectors from and saw this site:
http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/Injector_SetsNISSAN.asp

6/Set: $339.50
Plus $90 Refundable
Core Charge

Seams REALLY cheap; almost half of anyone else. My thoughts are that they are most definatly remanufactored, but hell if they work for another 150k miles, then awsome for that price. So any thoughts? Opinions?
Old Dec 10, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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i'm torn between going OEM or bosch aftermarket.
OEM's have lasted me over 200K miles, but the bosch are cheaper and have a longer warranty...

arguements for either one from anyone else?
Old Dec 10, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DaWifey's90
i'm torn between going OEM or bosch aftermarket.
OEM's have lasted me over 200K miles, but the bosch are cheaper and have a longer warranty...

arguments for either one from anyone else?
No argument, Bosch = OE on the injectors. they are exactly the same part.
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 01:08 AM
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really?! how come they come with different warranties? it almost seems like it depends who you purchase them from rather than the fact that you're buying the same product.
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Hey, Personally I'd recommend the OEM injectors, in the case of what i went through, alot of aftermarket injectors seem to fail more quicker then the original oem injectors.

If you are looking at using your original injectors, have them cleaned and ohm tested to make sure they are working fine. Injectors after a long time need to be maintained and cleaned.

In most cases your OEM injectors are just fine
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Originally Posted by DaWifey's90
really?! how come they come with different warranties? it almost seems like it depends who you purchase them from rather than the fact that you're buying the same product.
it does depend on who you buy them from for the warranty.
but the part in the box is the same.
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Hey, Personally I'd recommend the OEM injectors, in the case of what i went through, alot of aftermarket injectors seem to fail more quicker then the original oem injectors.

If you are looking at using your original injectors, have them cleaned and ohm tested to make sure they are working fine. Injectors after a long time need to be maintained and cleaned.

In most cases your OEM injectors are just fine :read:
Cleaning them is what kills them, Nissan released a TSB recommending against cleaners in the tank, which are much less caustic than the ones used when rebuilding them.

there is no new aftermarket injector for 93 and newer maximas. they are all bosch/OE rebox
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar

Cleaning them is what kills them, Nissan released a TSB recommending against cleaners in the tank, which are much less caustic than the ones used when rebuilding them.

so i may have killed my own injectors with seafoam?
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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ive used CVU and delphi both and didnt last long, went back to OEM's which stayed real consistant. Havent had problems cleaning them ...yet! haha!
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DaWifey's90
so i may have killed my own injectors with seafoam?
Seafoam isn't a solvent per say so it really doesn't do any damage
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
Seafoam isn't a solvent per say
really?....maybe i should take this to the fluids and lubricants forum...

by "per say" did you mean "per se"?
Old Dec 13, 2006 | 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DaWifey's90
really?....maybe i should take this to the fluids and lubricants forum...

by "per say" did you mean "per se"?
Probably the second one.
I wasn't an English major
Old Dec 14, 2006 | 01:19 AM
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hehe...neither was I...but i do speak the language...it's latin btw, not english...

heh..it's one of those useless pieces of information that was embedded in me in high school....and now i can't help myself...
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 04:49 AM
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If you have a failing OEM injectors, the route to go is reman OEM's. Not aftermarket. The term "Reman" may not be the most accurate, since no injector company replaces the coil. But extensive testing can be done to ensure the coil is in good working order, flow rates are balanced, and spray pattern is acceptable, filters, spacer, and o-rings are replaced.

The thing about mixing and matching OEM's and aftermarkets is that most likely you will have two different performing injectors. Coil response could be slightly different, spray pattern could be different, and even flow rates can vary.

Do a simple ohm check before replacing/servicing injectors. (clean connectors of corrosion first). If they are not between 11-13 ohm's the injector is most likely bad. Don't waste your time on a injector with bad ohm's. Send the rest to a place who does off the car injector service and who can provide replacements if needed. More extensive coil testing can be done to evaluate if the coil is still in good working order. After cleaning, sonication, flushing, and flow testing a determination can be made of which need to be replaced and which are in still good working condtion....then go from there.
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