I am getting ready to do an 00VI swap on my 95 GXE. I bought a rear valve cover and a LIM from a DE-K car. There are butterfly valves on both sides of the LIM, what am I supposed to do with those? I was thinking I should cut them out? Is there an easy way to take them out if that is what I am supposed to do? Any advice would be appreciated.

 

In the stickies theres 5-6 threads listed showing how to do a complete swap.

 

I am aware of that but I did not see where any one mentioned anything about what to do with the butterfly valves in the LIM.

 

From what i remember, cut em off and slide the rod out.

 

http://www.vqpower.com/gtrmax/00VI/

 

hit me up carson, i had the samething, ill tell you how to remove them and install everything.....

About the avalon, non there at all

 

They are indeed Cali swirl valves (for emissions purposes). The link gtr_rider provided you should tell you how to get rid of them. Don't repeat ghostmax301's mistake (no offense, buddy, just being helpful to him) and be sure to clean out the LIM well before you JB weld the holes.

 

on the link that GTR provided, he says to cut them out and then plug the outside holes with JB weld. Is this correct? Did I miss something? Do I have an extra set of butterfly valves/do I have a cali spec LIM? I have them on both sides of the LIM.

 

the valve plates have 2 screws holding each plate on, take those screws out and remove the plates...i believe it might be 2 screws, one on the front runners, one on the back, once you take those out, take apart the mechanism on the end of the LIM, and everything should pull out.

No problem tatanko, My only mistake was not cleaning the oil out of the holes before filling them with JB weld, so it didnt stick to well..

 

alright, I just took the butterfly valves out. It was not hard at all. After the flappers were out I just took out one screw holding each rod in, then poped off some c-clips and the rods slid right out. After I got the rods out I cleaned out the LIM. It had plenty of carbon build up, and I went ahead and scrubbed down the out side with some Pomolive. Everything is drying now and I would like to do the JB weld tomorrow. My question is what all do I JB weld? More specificaly I know I need to do the two holes where I pulled the rod out of the LIM, but do I also need to JB weld the holes going through each runner? Does that make since? I assume not JB welding the holes between the runners may cause turbulance? Any advice?

 

I put JB weld wherever there was a hole including inside the runners when i did a DE-K swap. I then smoothed it down with a dremel and grinding bit and made it perfectly flush with the runner.

 

Sounds good. I'll probably put JB weld on all the holes tonight, and I will do the sanding tomorrow.

 

I meant to say JB stik. It's MUCH easier to work with in this case.

 

What is the JB stick? Where can I buy i? I am not familiar with this. Also where the rods pulled out it looks like there is some sort of plastic peice/spacer on the outside of the LIM. Do I take that out too before I use JB weld or do I just put the JB weld over that?

 

I found the JB cold weld stik. I assume thats what you are talking about. It looks like I can pick it up at my local advanced auto. Will one stik do the whole job?

 

its more than enough.....

 

the stick is not recommended. Take the time and use the actual JB Weld.

 

If you read on their site, the regular JB weld isn't recommended for manifolds either. Doesn't mean it won't work.

 

well I just got the stik and I am going to go down and work on it in the basement. I have used two part epoxies before and they set up hard as a rock...so I assume this will work well too. I read in the directions that it is easier to use if your fingers are damp, this is something that I always noticed with other two part epoxies, they do not stick to your fingers as much if your fingers are a little wet.

 

Damp fingers will help tremendously.

 

I'm just stating. I read a thread recently where the JB Weld didn't hold up. Isn't the stick rated less than the JB weld mix?

 

Link?


10frijoles

 

everything is setting up right now. I am going to give it about another half an hour and go down and start sanding it. So far everything is looking just fine. The only thing I was having trouble with was getting air pockets when filling the holes between the runners...hopefully everything will work out just fine.

 

just a warning... JB weld + oil + vibrations =
JBweld is good, but if there's a chance for the stuff to get into the engine... i would hesitate to use it.

 

what would you recomend I do then? I sanded everything down last night, so everything is nice a smooth and set up solid.

 

What? JB weld is impervious to oil and engine vibration definitely won't shake it loose. If anything, the heat is what poses the biggest threat but i haven't seen any evidence if it failing due to that either when properly applied.