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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Whos running the kyb setup on progress springs? I want to put a drop on my car badly but I dont want to break my pockets in doing so.

I just want to know whats the best possible kyb setup without havinga tough ride. Im looking to get a 1.7 to 2.0 drop in the front and a 1.5 in the rear.

im skepetical because everyone is saying kyb's in general are basically trash. I need some help guys, oh yeah I will be driving on the horrible streets of nyc
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Originally Posted by MaxedOut99SE
Whos running the kyb setup on progress springs? I want to put a drop on my car badly but I dont want to break my pockets in doing so.

I just want to know whats the best possible kyb setup without havinga tough ride. Im looking to get a 1.7 to 2.0 drop in the front and a 1.5 in the rear.

im skepetical because everyone is saying kyb's in general are basically trash. I need some help guys, oh yeah I will be driving on the horrible streets of nyc
They're not trash, IMO the harshness is a great thing for the track.. If you're in it for looks and smoothness then I'd say go illuminas. (or, if you have deep pockets go koni's or better yet full coilovers I suppose)
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Harshness doesn't automatically mean better handling or more capable performance-wise.
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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Im in it for the look and handling, anything right now would be better than stock, I will be running the stock wheels and tires.
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Illuminas are the superior strut. This is coming from an ex-AGX owner.
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Originally Posted by nismology
Illuminas are the superior strut. This is coming from an ex-AGX owner.
ok cool what springs did u run and how low was your drop?

how much are the illuminas going for?
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by nismology
Illuminas are the superior strut. This is coming from an ex-AGX owner.
Agreed. I had both AGX and Illuminas. The Illuminas were much better.

I ran them with Tein H-Tech springs. See my I30 cardomain page for pics.
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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For the amount of drop you want, you need coilovers or a setup with shorter struts. When you get down 2" in the front you have used up most of the suspension travel with a standard strut. A coilover with an adjustable shock body will let you get the drop and keep you suspension travel. If you search over in the "suspension" section you should find the info your looking for. I wish I had went with a coilover rather than my crappy Stech/AGX setup.
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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If you want improvement go with the kyb gr2 / maxspeed spring set up. I did and am totally happy with it.
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^^ What makes that setup better than any other spring/strut combo?
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Originally Posted by z32drifter
For the amount of drop you want, you need coilovers or a setup with shorter struts. When you get down 2" in the front you have used up most of the suspension travel with a standard strut. A coilover with an adjustable shock body will let you get the drop and keep you suspension travel. If you search over in the "suspension" section you should find the info your looking for. I wish I had went with a coilover rather than my crappy Stech/AGX setup.
The coilovers will be way outta my budget. What about a 1.7 in the front and 1.5 in the back? would I still need coilovers for the front?

I just want a good drop, good handling and nice look to the car thats all.
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Progress/Illumina is my vote.
Old Mar 24, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxedOut99SE
Whos running the kyb setup on progress springs? I want to put a drop on my car badly but I dont want to break my pockets in doing so.

I just want to know whats the best possible kyb setup without havinga tough ride. Im looking to get a 1.7 to 2.0 drop in the front and a 1.5 in the rear.

im skepetical because everyone is saying kyb's in general are basically trash. I need some help guys, oh yeah I will be driving on the horrible streets of nyc
I ran that setup for about a week. It was ok. It was really low and handled great, but it the ride wasn't that great. It wasn't as harsh as some might say though. It wasn't unbearable. As long as you avoid the huge potholes then you will like it.
I now have the full Illumina setup and I love it. I ran it on 3 all the way around it was better than the progress/gr-2. I know have it set on all 1 and it is better than stock IMHO.
Old Mar 24, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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koni koni koni
Old Mar 24, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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what it comes down to is how much do you want to spend?
Old Mar 24, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JSutter
koni koni koni
If you want to go there, JIC JIC JIC...
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So far ive been hearing alot about illuminas...what springs though? Eibachs, S-techs or progress?

lookin for low costs, good looks and acceptable handling (goin aftermarket must be better than stock)
Old Mar 24, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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Eibachs will give you a slightly higher stance but also a higher spring rate (stiffer) than progress. From what I have heard you'd want to stay away from S-Techs.
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whats everyones opinion on eibachs? I am starting to get into auto-x and i dont have a big enough budget for coilovers or konis right now. But i can get a really good deal on illuminas and eibachs from a local guy, so would you guys think thats a pretty good setup for a beginner auto-xer? Ill be adding a RSB and FSTB very soon too. Will it handle a lot better then stock?
Old Mar 25, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 96blkonblkse
whats everyones opinion on eibachs? I am starting to get into auto-x and i dont have a big enough budget for coilovers or konis right now. But i can get a really good deal on illuminas and eibachs from a local guy, so would you guys think thats a pretty good setup for a beginner auto-xer? Ill be adding a RSB and FSTB very soon too. Will it handle a lot better then stock?
Eibachs and Illuminas should be fine, but be prepared for a harsh ride. Handling will improve dramatically. Going from stock suspension to Eibachs, Illuminas, FSTB and RSB will make you want to dart through every hole in traffic you can find. Just be careful as with an RSB you'll experience lift-off oversteer that our cars don't normally exhibit.
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I think any spring combo with AGX's will give you a pretty stiff ride. I have tried all combinations of settings with my AGX's and H&R's.
Old Mar 25, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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Hey thanks guys I really appreciate it, I just found some progress springs a fellow org member wants to sell me for 120.

I will go with the progress/illumina set up. Now all I have to do is find a good illumina deal if anybody is willing to sell lol

I will also get a Progress RSB for good measure.
Old Mar 25, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by nismology
If you want to go there, JIC JIC JIC...
no, jic is junk, koni is not. its not an opinion either its a fact.
Old Mar 25, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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no, jic is junk, koni is not. its not an opinion either its a fact.
In that case Tein SS Tein SS Tein SS or Progress coilovers or any other good coilover system. Either way, you missed the point. He's not after the absolute best money can buy, otherwise he'd be on coilovers, period.
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In that case Tein SS Tein SS Tein SS or Progress coilovers or any other good coilover system. Either way, you missed the point. He's not after the absolute best money can buy, otherwise he'd be on coilovers, period.
We just dont have the best options for the maxima here in the states..


The only coilovers I would buy would be the Boss Chens or the coilovers by Tanabe that all of you have apparently never heard of made for the A32 cefiro.

There's a few companies in Japan besides Tanabe and Tein that make suspension parts for our chassis.. Do some research some time.
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Originally Posted by Apparition
We just dont have the best options for the maxima here in the states..


The only coilovers I would buy would be the Boss Chens or the coilovers by Tanabe that all of you have apparently never heard of made for the A32 cefiro.

There's a few companies in Japan besides Tanabe and Tein that make suspension parts for our chassis.. Do some research some time.
Got links? PM them to me if you can. Thanks.

And the Boss Chen's aren't made for absolute handling but rather for reliability and comfort with substantial handling improvements according to Larrio. That's why i didn't mention them. But yes, they are still better than any strut/spring combo IMO due to the retention of so much suspension travel among other things.
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Got links? PM them to me if you can. Thanks.

And the Boss Chen's aren't made for absolute handling but rather for reliability and comfort with substantial handling improvements according to Larrio. That's why i didn't mention them. But yes, they are still better than any strut/spring combo IMO due to the retention of so much suspension travel among other things.
I'll get on it ASAP.. I just hope that Tanabe, Kaaz and there was one other haven't discontinued them. Keichii Tsuchiya's comment about the A32 Cefiro being a "grandma car" didn't exactly help our battle for mods much either.


Also, I had a question. Does anyone know who produces the G4 coilovers, because G4 is just a television network to my understanding. But those are another option I've seen lately.
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