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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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is a strut bar, JUST a strut bar?

or should you get a good quality one? for instance i found these on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/STRUT...spagenameZWDVW

hell, i have no money and that is cheap enough to buy. however will i regret buying a cheap strut bar? or is it just that, a piece of metal to tighten up the front end?

what are your opinions on this?
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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as long as its a good solid design it will do the job

my friend made his own for his 3 series bmw by welding and drilling some metal
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by garyrr
as long as its a good solid design it will do the job

my friend made his own for his 3 series bmw by welding and drilling some metal
well what do you think of the one i posted? i mean, its like $30 (at most)

and ya if i was gonna make my own that bar would be like a freakin 2x4. heh.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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thats the exact one i have on my car actualy

i found it effective and could notice the difference after i installed
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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For our applications (i.e. not racing) the difference between the ebay bars and more expensive ones such as stillen is negligible.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Wassup2114
For our applications (i.e. not racing) the difference between the ebay bars and more expensive ones such as stillen is negligible.
thats what i figured. i will by no means be racing (unless my evo friend invites me to a track ill tag along) but for 99% of my life its just for daily driving.

i got a dirt cheap one for the civic (well it was free i just had to pick it up in fort worth) and the difference was amazing.

thanks for the help guys, looks like ill pick one up.

oh and how hard is the install on one? the civic one i ghetto rigged it so ive never done one with a legit install.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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The installation is simple.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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this was the easiest thing i have installed on my car

u open ur hood
remove the 3 nuts on top of each strut
place strut bar in bolts
tighten the bar to the firmest position
put back the nuts onto the strut

close hood and test drive<< my fave step
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by garyrr
this was the easiest thing i have installed on my car

u open ur hood
remove the 3 nuts on top of each strut
place strut bar in bolts
tighten the bar to the firmest position
put back the nuts onto the strut

close hood and test drive<< my fave step
thats what i thought.

i was just unsure if there was any compressing of the springs or anything crazy like that. remember im still a semi noob.

thanks for the help guys. i really appreciate it!
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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well i just bought it, for $25. not to bad.

my only remaining question is which way does it go on? im sure this thing is not gonna have directions on how to put it on. and i did put the one on my civic backwards. :x

oh and ill post pictures of it with my dirty engine bay too.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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Yeah the only thing that really pisses me off is this.. I found out about these after I grabbed one off eBay. I'm still gonna get that fawkin' gunmetal one, man I cannot even tell you how frustrated I was haha.



$49.99
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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oooo gunmetal.

why do you want one of them SO bad? (i think im just a little confused on why you are so mad)

oh and i think i might spray mine black before i put it on. i think that might look a little better then chrome.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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Well the aesthetic side is that it looks 10x as good and is branded.. The other part is it looks a bit stronger/ more rigid than the generic types.

Negligible? Of course.. But for a little more money I think it's more worth it.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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i have the CE front and rear strut bars and progress RASB. it's and very firm ride and agree that lots of money for those as a dd is kind of pointless.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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A strut bar is a strut bar. I went from an eBay one to a Stillen one and felt no real difference. I did feel a difference between having a strut bar to not having one at all.

Only problem I had with an eBay one was that it got really close to my AC line and it touched my EVAP.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Cheap adjustable strut bars dont do jack crap and are just for looks. But if you're just daily driving this car it doesnt really matter. If you wanted a good strut bar get a solid non adjustable bar, they dont flex.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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They look nice in the engine bay.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
They look nice in the engine bay.
Yeah for people who actually HAVE Maximas..
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Yeah for people who actually HAVE Maximas..
as the caveman in the insurance commercial says, " ok, what ?? " and , btw you noobs of the max world, its called a strut tower brace. and the dealer and my tech said they really only stiffen up and support a little bit. and only if you have new struts and plates or ones that are in good shape.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by max ride 41
as the caveman in the insurance commercial says, " ok, what ?? " and , btw you noobs of the max world, its called a strut tower brace. and the dealer and my tech said they really only stiffen up and support a little bit. and only if you have new struts and plates or ones that are in good shape.
He sold his '99.. So I was cracking on him inside joke style.


IMO the brace itself on any car would just signal to me maybe a few less creaks and a little more rigidity in the frontal area, not some new found performance ability.

I mean if it had that much of effect in terms of side to side that would mean your car is flexing to an unsafe level in the first place.
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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lol dont listen to every dealer and every tech

i work at a gm dealership and they tell ppl a whole bunch of bs

try it for urself and maybe u will see

i put it on and noticed a diff not huge but well worth the 30 bucks
then when i put my coilovers the difference is night and day
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by garyrr
this was the easiest thing i have installed on my car

u open ur hood
remove the 3 nuts on top of each strut
place strut bar in bolts
tighten the bar to the firmest position
put back the nuts onto the strut

close hood and test drive<< my fave step
A big reason a lot of people don't notice a difference is because they install it like that........

Install the two brackets first, then use a floor jack on the engine crossmember jack point to get the wheels off the ground, tighten the bar outwards as tight as possible and lock it, then lower the car obviously.
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this thread is ridiculous..
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Apparition
this thread is ridiculous..
agreed
Old Jun 4, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Apparition
Yeah for people who actually HAVE Maximas..
AYE! >:O

lol
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Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
AYE! >:O

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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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You wont feel a real differance in everyday driving. But if you go to the track, then def. get one. I recommend a MOMO
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 05:15 AM
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MOMO huh? Didnt realize they had strut bars for a Maxima. Post whoring noob.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by KRRZ350
A big reason a lot of people don't notice a difference is because they install it like that........

Install the two brackets first, then use a floor jack on the engine crossmember jack point to get the wheels off the ground, tighten the bar outwards as tight as possible and lock it, then lower the car obviously.
Considering myself a Maxima performance newb, I never new what the stb was really for... sort of, the way I drive Im considering buying one of these and from the sounds of this^^, this is the install method I ll be using.

Ive seen alot of you guys say unless you drag you dont really need it, how can this help you in a 1/4 mile shot? It looks to me that this helps make the car stiff for agility purposes in cornering, what does it do for straight-a-ways?
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Originally Posted by maximafrenzy
Considering myself a Maxima performance newb, I never new what the stb was really for... sort of, the way I drive Im considering buying one of these and from the sounds of this^^, this is the install method I ll be using.

Ive seen alot of you guys say unless you drag you dont really need it, how can this help you in a 1/4 mile shot? It looks to me that this helps make the car stiff for agility purposes in cornering, what does it do for straight-a-ways?
less rattling/ creaking.. see SFC for more info.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by KRRZ350
A big reason a lot of people don't notice a difference is because they install it like that........

Install the two brackets first, then use a floor jack on the engine crossmember jack point to get the wheels off the ground, tighten the bar outwards as tight as possible and lock it, then lower the car obviously.
oooh.

thats what im lookin for. ill have to get my hands on a floor jack when i get the bar in.

man that install is making me hot thinking about it. rawr.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Strut bar is now officially on my list. I cant believe I havent gotten one yet.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 95.maxima
oooh.

thats what im lookin for. ill have to get my hands on a floor jack when i get the bar in.

man that install is making me hot thinking about it. rawr.

WTF....I dont underrrrrstand(roll the r's) ppl these days...horny car shop talk....lol




Thanks Apparition, I forgot most of you guys are boosted and any car going that fast needs to be fastened down much more than dd non boosted cars, but I'll be getting it cause I drive like a maniac taking corners like a NASCAR doin 200. (Sometimes)...
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Originally Posted by maximafrenzy
WTF....I dont underrrrrstand(roll the r's) ppl these days...horny car shop talk....lol




Thanks Apparition, I forgot most of you guys are boosted and any car going that fast needs to be fastened down much more than dd non boosted cars, but I'll be getting it cause I drive like a maniac taking corners like a NASCAR doin 200. (Sometimes)...
Well the maxima isn't boosted but the R32 shop car is and so is the S13 with the RB25 in it.. Let me tell ya, if ppl think the maxima has a weak chassis they haven't driven a 240sx haha. One has a Tanabe and and other a Cusco strut brace and on those cars it's all the more difference than here.

Good luck.
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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basically you need to make sure its solid, I mean if you can bend it with your own strength like some of the ebay ones, you think its really going to help your car? buy it right the first time, thats my advice to you
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Who you tellin'....I used to own a 86 Z28 growing up in Brooklyn NY, and street racing on those streets wreak haaaavoc on your car. You name the part and it rattled, back then if they had a strut bar I would of got it....lol...those cars rattle.
Old Jun 7, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Prob way out of your league Whitemax.
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I was wondering if putting FSTB on changes the suspension at all.

Would you encounter a harsher ride by adding one on?
Old Jun 8, 2007 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DragonMaxima
I was wondering if putting FSTB on changes the suspension at all.

Would you encounter a harsher ride by adding one on?
yes you do. or at least in my days with the civic it was a little harsher. but man, when you need that extra little bit of turning it helps. plus it doesnt seem as sloppy.

for instance if you are driving and ou turn the steering wheel side to side you can feel the body roll pretty bad. with teh strut bar it eliminates some of the sloppiness and is more responsive to the turn.

its hard to explain for me as im not good with words.... but its like it helps the car do what it is supposed to already do.
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