2K2 Quirks
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2K2 Quirks
Well one quirk, one gripe, anyway.
The quirk doesn't concern the car itself but rather the Bose audio system. Specifically the "speed sensitive volume" aspect of it. The behavior of this is downright bizarre. I'd have guessed that the overall idea is that as you go faster, road/wind noise increases, so it increases the volume of the audio system correspondingly to compensate.
Except it doesn't. From taking the car on a 2000 mile road trip last week, it seems to do exactly the opposite. As you go faster, it turns the sound down. Slow down and it turns it up again. It's also got a certain fondness for suddenly turning the volume way up when you go under a bridge. Very strange indeed, and not at all what I expected. Oh, and the list of disc types that the player *won't* play (at least according to the manual) is enormous. It's also inaccurate - I've had no problems playing CD-Rs, not checked it with CD-RWs yet. My guess is that it's just Nissan covering themselves.
Now for the gripe - the tires. Whatever possessed Nissan to put 215/55R17 tires on the GLE, I do not know. As far as I can tell, the only other cars on the planet with tires this size appear to be the 2002 3.5L Altima and the 2002 Infiniti I35. If you need to replace one, be very, very afraid.
I imagine it won't be a problem once there are enough Altimas on the road, but one of my tires managed to receive some major road damage just two weeks after I bought the car, in the form of a bulge the size of an egg in the sidewall. I put on the emergency spare, since the tire looked like it might blow at a moment's notice. Since the tires aren't actually covered by Nissan, I took the tire to the largest local Bridgestone dealer (they're Bridgestone tires).
From the look on the guy's face you'd think I'd brought in some roadkill for him to examine. He was at a loss, he'd never seen a tire like it. Other people in the dealership were called in to see this 215/55R17 wonder. After arbitrarily decreeing that it was due to road damage and thus not under warranty, he checks the computer to see where he can get me a replacement.
It's not in the computer.
He calls the regional office. They've never heard of it.
He calls their main office. They've never heard of it either.
He shrugs, says there's nothing he can do, and he'll call me if he ever finds someone who'll acknowledge its existence.
I call the dealer I bought the car from. I am not happy. It shows. Once they establish that Bridgestone said the tire wasn't under warranty and that Bridgestone deny the existence of the tire, they put me through to their parts department.
The parts guy wants to know the size. I tell him. He doesn't believe me. He asks the tire type. I tell him it's a "Turanza EL42". He says "No, you must mean a Potenza". "No", I tell him, "it's a Turanza." This goes back and forth a few times until I lose my temper and tell him I've got the damn tire right in front of me and I'm quite positive it says "Turanza" on the side, and not "Potenza". He says I'll need to bring the car in so he can see this mythical tire.
I take the car in. Again the incredulous look. Again people crowd around to see this strange beast. He spends the next hour and a half calling *his* suppliers. I hear the whole argument I had over the tire size and type repeated several times, only this time with the parts guy playing my role.
Eventually they locate one. It'll take around 4 days to come in. Since the dealership's actually pretty good (and just possibly because I've got Nissan's dealership satisfaction survey in my possession) they actually go so far as to take a tire off a stock 2002 GLE for me there and then, saying that when the replacement comes in they'll put that on the other car instead. No charge for the mounting and balancing, just the cost of the tire (about $167, if I remember correctly).
So full marks to the dealership there, but someone either at Nissan or Bridgestone needs a severe beating with the clue stick. Bridgestone for not having their own product in their system over a month after it was being sold on cars, Nissan for either not ensuring that there was a sufficient supply in the distribution channels, or for choosing such a downright bizarre size of tire in the first place. I mean, why not just go with a 225/55R17 like the SE has? It's a much more common size, the price is comparable, and so on.
The quirk doesn't concern the car itself but rather the Bose audio system. Specifically the "speed sensitive volume" aspect of it. The behavior of this is downright bizarre. I'd have guessed that the overall idea is that as you go faster, road/wind noise increases, so it increases the volume of the audio system correspondingly to compensate.
Except it doesn't. From taking the car on a 2000 mile road trip last week, it seems to do exactly the opposite. As you go faster, it turns the sound down. Slow down and it turns it up again. It's also got a certain fondness for suddenly turning the volume way up when you go under a bridge. Very strange indeed, and not at all what I expected. Oh, and the list of disc types that the player *won't* play (at least according to the manual) is enormous. It's also inaccurate - I've had no problems playing CD-Rs, not checked it with CD-RWs yet. My guess is that it's just Nissan covering themselves.
Now for the gripe - the tires. Whatever possessed Nissan to put 215/55R17 tires on the GLE, I do not know. As far as I can tell, the only other cars on the planet with tires this size appear to be the 2002 3.5L Altima and the 2002 Infiniti I35. If you need to replace one, be very, very afraid.
I imagine it won't be a problem once there are enough Altimas on the road, but one of my tires managed to receive some major road damage just two weeks after I bought the car, in the form of a bulge the size of an egg in the sidewall. I put on the emergency spare, since the tire looked like it might blow at a moment's notice. Since the tires aren't actually covered by Nissan, I took the tire to the largest local Bridgestone dealer (they're Bridgestone tires).
From the look on the guy's face you'd think I'd brought in some roadkill for him to examine. He was at a loss, he'd never seen a tire like it. Other people in the dealership were called in to see this 215/55R17 wonder. After arbitrarily decreeing that it was due to road damage and thus not under warranty, he checks the computer to see where he can get me a replacement.
It's not in the computer.
He calls the regional office. They've never heard of it.
He calls their main office. They've never heard of it either.
He shrugs, says there's nothing he can do, and he'll call me if he ever finds someone who'll acknowledge its existence.
I call the dealer I bought the car from. I am not happy. It shows. Once they establish that Bridgestone said the tire wasn't under warranty and that Bridgestone deny the existence of the tire, they put me through to their parts department.
The parts guy wants to know the size. I tell him. He doesn't believe me. He asks the tire type. I tell him it's a "Turanza EL42". He says "No, you must mean a Potenza". "No", I tell him, "it's a Turanza." This goes back and forth a few times until I lose my temper and tell him I've got the damn tire right in front of me and I'm quite positive it says "Turanza" on the side, and not "Potenza". He says I'll need to bring the car in so he can see this mythical tire.
I take the car in. Again the incredulous look. Again people crowd around to see this strange beast. He spends the next hour and a half calling *his* suppliers. I hear the whole argument I had over the tire size and type repeated several times, only this time with the parts guy playing my role.
Eventually they locate one. It'll take around 4 days to come in. Since the dealership's actually pretty good (and just possibly because I've got Nissan's dealership satisfaction survey in my possession) they actually go so far as to take a tire off a stock 2002 GLE for me there and then, saying that when the replacement comes in they'll put that on the other car instead. No charge for the mounting and balancing, just the cost of the tire (about $167, if I remember correctly).
So full marks to the dealership there, but someone either at Nissan or Bridgestone needs a severe beating with the clue stick. Bridgestone for not having their own product in their system over a month after it was being sold on cars, Nissan for either not ensuring that there was a sufficient supply in the distribution channels, or for choosing such a downright bizarre size of tire in the first place. I mean, why not just go with a 225/55R17 like the SE has? It's a much more common size, the price is comparable, and so on.
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That sucks, but take it from us with the 225/50 17's (which I think you were referring to), there are not a hell of a lot of options out there either (if you want the same exact size)!! Actually, I am playing with going to the 55 series 225 17 myself.
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Re: 2K2 Quirks
Originally posted by awrc
Well one quirk, one gripe, anyway.
The quirk doesn't concern the car itself but rather the Bose audio system. Specifically the "speed sensitive volume" aspect of it. The behavior of this is downright bizarre. I'd have guessed that the overall idea is that as you go faster, road/wind noise increases, so it increases the volume of the audio system correspondingly to compensate.
Except it doesn't. From taking the car on a 2000 mile road trip last week, it seems to do exactly the opposite. As you go faster, it turns the sound down. Slow down and it turns it up again. It's also got a certain fondness for suddenly turning the volume way up when you go under a bridge. Very strange indeed, and not at all what I expected. Oh, and the list of disc types that the player *won't* play (at least according to the manual) is enormous. It's also inaccurate - I've had no problems playing CD-Rs, not checked it with CD-RWs yet. My guess is that it's just Nissan covering themselves.
Now for the gripe - the tires. Whatever possessed Nissan to put 215/55R17 tires on the GLE, I do not know. As far as I can tell, the only other cars on the planet with tires this size appear to be the 2002 3.5L Altima and the 2002 Infiniti I35. If you need to replace one, be very, very afraid.
I imagine it won't be a problem once there are enough Altimas on the road, but one of my tires managed to receive some major road damage just two weeks after I bought the car, in the form of a bulge the size of an egg in the sidewall. I put on the emergency spare, since the tire looked like it might blow at a moment's notice. Since the tires aren't actually covered by Nissan, I took the tire to the largest local Bridgestone dealer (they're Bridgestone tires).
From the look on the guy's face you'd think I'd brought in some roadkill for him to examine. He was at a loss, he'd never seen a tire like it. Other people in the dealership were called in to see this 215/55R17 wonder. After arbitrarily decreeing that it was due to road damage and thus not under warranty, he checks the computer to see where he can get me a replacement.
It's not in the computer.
He calls the regional office. They've never heard of it.
He calls their main office. They've never heard of it either.
He shrugs, says there's nothing he can do, and he'll call me if he ever finds someone who'll acknowledge its existence.
I call the dealer I bought the car from. I am not happy. It shows. Once they establish that Bridgestone said the tire wasn't under warranty and that Bridgestone deny the existence of the tire, they put me through to their parts department.
The parts guy wants to know the size. I tell him. He doesn't believe me. He asks the tire type. I tell him it's a "Turanza EL42". He says "No, you must mean a Potenza". "No", I tell him, "it's a Turanza." This goes back and forth a few times until I lose my temper and tell him I've got the damn tire right in front of me and I'm quite positive it says "Turanza" on the side, and not "Potenza". He says I'll need to bring the car in so he can see this mythical tire.
I take the car in. Again the incredulous look. Again people crowd around to see this strange beast. He spends the next hour and a half calling *his* suppliers. I hear the whole argument I had over the tire size and type repeated several times, only this time with the parts guy playing my role.
Eventually they locate one. It'll take around 4 days to come in. Since the dealership's actually pretty good (and just possibly because I've got Nissan's dealership satisfaction survey in my possession) they actually go so far as to take a tire off a stock 2002 GLE for me there and then, saying that when the replacement comes in they'll put that on the other car instead. No charge for the mounting and balancing, just the cost of the tire (about $167, if I remember correctly).
So full marks to the dealership there, but someone either at Nissan or Bridgestone needs a severe beating with the clue stick. Bridgestone for not having their own product in their system over a month after it was being sold on cars, Nissan for either not ensuring that there was a sufficient supply in the distribution channels, or for choosing such a downright bizarre size of tire in the first place. I mean, why not just go with a 225/55R17 like the SE has? It's a much more common size, the price is comparable, and so on.
Well one quirk, one gripe, anyway.
The quirk doesn't concern the car itself but rather the Bose audio system. Specifically the "speed sensitive volume" aspect of it. The behavior of this is downright bizarre. I'd have guessed that the overall idea is that as you go faster, road/wind noise increases, so it increases the volume of the audio system correspondingly to compensate.
Except it doesn't. From taking the car on a 2000 mile road trip last week, it seems to do exactly the opposite. As you go faster, it turns the sound down. Slow down and it turns it up again. It's also got a certain fondness for suddenly turning the volume way up when you go under a bridge. Very strange indeed, and not at all what I expected. Oh, and the list of disc types that the player *won't* play (at least according to the manual) is enormous. It's also inaccurate - I've had no problems playing CD-Rs, not checked it with CD-RWs yet. My guess is that it's just Nissan covering themselves.
Now for the gripe - the tires. Whatever possessed Nissan to put 215/55R17 tires on the GLE, I do not know. As far as I can tell, the only other cars on the planet with tires this size appear to be the 2002 3.5L Altima and the 2002 Infiniti I35. If you need to replace one, be very, very afraid.
I imagine it won't be a problem once there are enough Altimas on the road, but one of my tires managed to receive some major road damage just two weeks after I bought the car, in the form of a bulge the size of an egg in the sidewall. I put on the emergency spare, since the tire looked like it might blow at a moment's notice. Since the tires aren't actually covered by Nissan, I took the tire to the largest local Bridgestone dealer (they're Bridgestone tires).
From the look on the guy's face you'd think I'd brought in some roadkill for him to examine. He was at a loss, he'd never seen a tire like it. Other people in the dealership were called in to see this 215/55R17 wonder. After arbitrarily decreeing that it was due to road damage and thus not under warranty, he checks the computer to see where he can get me a replacement.
It's not in the computer.
He calls the regional office. They've never heard of it.
He calls their main office. They've never heard of it either.
He shrugs, says there's nothing he can do, and he'll call me if he ever finds someone who'll acknowledge its existence.
I call the dealer I bought the car from. I am not happy. It shows. Once they establish that Bridgestone said the tire wasn't under warranty and that Bridgestone deny the existence of the tire, they put me through to their parts department.
The parts guy wants to know the size. I tell him. He doesn't believe me. He asks the tire type. I tell him it's a "Turanza EL42". He says "No, you must mean a Potenza". "No", I tell him, "it's a Turanza." This goes back and forth a few times until I lose my temper and tell him I've got the damn tire right in front of me and I'm quite positive it says "Turanza" on the side, and not "Potenza". He says I'll need to bring the car in so he can see this mythical tire.
I take the car in. Again the incredulous look. Again people crowd around to see this strange beast. He spends the next hour and a half calling *his* suppliers. I hear the whole argument I had over the tire size and type repeated several times, only this time with the parts guy playing my role.
Eventually they locate one. It'll take around 4 days to come in. Since the dealership's actually pretty good (and just possibly because I've got Nissan's dealership satisfaction survey in my possession) they actually go so far as to take a tire off a stock 2002 GLE for me there and then, saying that when the replacement comes in they'll put that on the other car instead. No charge for the mounting and balancing, just the cost of the tire (about $167, if I remember correctly).
So full marks to the dealership there, but someone either at Nissan or Bridgestone needs a severe beating with the clue stick. Bridgestone for not having their own product in their system over a month after it was being sold on cars, Nissan for either not ensuring that there was a sufficient supply in the distribution channels, or for choosing such a downright bizarre size of tire in the first place. I mean, why not just go with a 225/55R17 like the SE has? It's a much more common size, the price is comparable, and so on.
However, I looked up the 215/55/17 on TireRack and I only found the Turanza...you are worse off than the SE's. Good luck...and you may want to order some spares from Tire Rack and keep them on hand. Maybe even buy an extra rim from Nissan and go with a full size spare. Who could go through what you have every time they get a flat/damaged tire? In the five months that I have had my Max, I have had two nail punctures. Both were in the sidewall so the tire had to be replaced. It was hard to find the 225/50 locally, but I managed to do it in a day.
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Maybe something like this??
Might not be razor sharp performance, but hey!!
http://www.discounttire.com/dtc/find...odeIndex=43968
http://www.discounttire.com/dtc/find...odeIndex=43968
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Volume control
I do not envy your tire problems!
I too am having problems with the speed sensitive volume control. The behavior on mine is consistent in that the speed sensitive volume works fine except when I skip a track forward or back when playing the cd player. My gut feeling is we'll be seeing a lot of complaints about the speed sensitive volume on the Bose systems.
I too am having problems with the speed sensitive volume control. The behavior on mine is consistent in that the speed sensitive volume works fine except when I skip a track forward or back when playing the cd player. My gut feeling is we'll be seeing a lot of complaints about the speed sensitive volume on the Bose systems.
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Re: Volume control
Originally posted by haylo75
I do not envy your tire problems!
I too am having problems with the speed sensitive volume control. The behavior on mine is consistent in that the speed sensitive volume works fine except when I skip a track forward or back when playing the cd player. My gut feeling is we'll be seeing a lot of complaints about the speed sensitive volume on the Bose systems.
I do not envy your tire problems!
I too am having problems with the speed sensitive volume control. The behavior on mine is consistent in that the speed sensitive volume works fine except when I skip a track forward or back when playing the cd player. My gut feeling is we'll be seeing a lot of complaints about the speed sensitive volume on the Bose systems.
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Ahhh yes, the speed sensitive volume. I am also experiencing frustration with it. Is there any way to disable it? I'm constantly adjusting the volume. Thank god for the steering wheel volume controls. I think the major problem with mine is that it seems to increase and decrease dramatically. It's so long since I had my 85 Maxima, but I think I remember it having something similar to this and it could be turned off - not 100% sure on that though.
Re: Re: 2K2 Quirks
Originally posted by MS 2K1 AE
Welcome to the wonderful world of Nissan OEM tires. The SE's (00-02 I believe) all have 225/50/17. This is an almost impossible tire to replace. I think there are now a grand total of four options (and none are that great).
However, I looked up the 215/55/17 on TireRack and I only found the Turanza...you are worse off than the SE's. Good luck...and you may want to order some spares from Tire Rack and keep them on hand. Maybe even buy an extra rim from Nissan and go with a full size spare. Who could go through what you have every time they get a flat/damaged tire? In the five months that I have had my Max, I have had two nail punctures. Both were in the sidewall so the tire had to be replaced. It was hard to find the 225/50 locally, but I managed to do it in a day.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Nissan OEM tires. The SE's (00-02 I believe) all have 225/50/17. This is an almost impossible tire to replace. I think there are now a grand total of four options (and none are that great).
However, I looked up the 215/55/17 on TireRack and I only found the Turanza...you are worse off than the SE's. Good luck...and you may want to order some spares from Tire Rack and keep them on hand. Maybe even buy an extra rim from Nissan and go with a full size spare. Who could go through what you have every time they get a flat/damaged tire? In the five months that I have had my Max, I have had two nail punctures. Both were in the sidewall so the tire had to be replaced. It was hard to find the 225/50 locally, but I managed to do it in a day.
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Originally posted by B1GMATT
Ahhh yes, the speed sensitive volume. I am also experiencing frustration with it. Is there any way to disable it?
Ahhh yes, the speed sensitive volume. I am also experiencing frustration with it. Is there any way to disable it?
Originally posted by GimmeTorq
I believe you can. From the "Audio" button, cycle thru the different options (TREBLE->BASS->...) until it displays the "SCV" option. Then using the "TUNE" button, cycle thru it until you hit "OFF". This should disable it.
I believe you can. From the "Audio" button, cycle thru the different options (TREBLE->BASS->...) until it displays the "SCV" option. Then using the "TUNE" button, cycle thru it until you hit "OFF". This should disable it.
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