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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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K&N Air Filter worth it?

Cost 50$....


Havent changed my filter in a while and was wondering if the gains are worth it.
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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drop in? theres no power gains with a k&n drop in filter. It actualy kills the hp by very little. The only advantage would be the reusability.
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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Want power?
Got y-pipe?
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Yes Y pipe.

What about mileage?
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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I don't know about the y-pipe, but the mileage differences with a K and N will be either nothing or negligible.
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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i have a K&N panel filter for sale aswell as a stock airbox complete if intrested pm me
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by shadyonedeath
wondering if the gains are worth it.
Gains?

I like the fact that I can clean it every 6 months.
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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$50 is way much for just a drop in, hell even a cone. I got mine for 35$. FYI: Any stock filter will fit 95-03 Maximas.

K&N is all I use, whether it's wrong or right, both my VQ's use them for a combined mileage of 200k and 8 years.
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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50 bux to high i got mine for 32.50
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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i got mine for about 60, but it came with cleaning solution

now its just sitting in my garage collecting dust(in the box) in case some1 wants it lol
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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nah way too much
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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not worth it, spend it on gas to drive to work and make money to not have to care about spending 50
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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The drop in K&N panel filters can be worth the money if you plan on keeping your car until it reaches the end of its life. That way you 'may' get your money out of it.
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So should i invest into a cone instead? Cai?


I already have the y pipe. My overall goal is Mileage.


plans:
-Remove rear seats
-Remove spare tire
-remove trunk lining etc.



any others? oh yea, and a HOw-to to remove rear seats if you have it
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Also, what type of FUEL FILTER should i buy? Can i get them at local auto parts stores?
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by shadyonedeath
So should i invest into a cone instead? Cai?


I already have the y pipe. My overall goal is Mileage.


plans:
-Remove rear seats
-Remove spare tire
-remove trunk lining etc.



any others? oh yea, and a HOw-to to remove rear seats if you have it

http://www.innerbean.com/housecor/bose_deck_fix.html
it shows u how to remove the back seats there
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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are you serious!? Dude sitting in your backseat tells you how to take it out just look around and why would you want to do that for 1 mile better if anything? If you want weight redux tips search around theres plenty of threads.. Infact i remember a thread a few years ago where ceasar weighed basically everthing possable and posted it in a thread so LOOK. whatever floats your boat i guess.
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by shadyonedeath
My overall goal is Mileage.
So you drive a maxima? Pick up a civic/crx beater for $500 and get 40mpg all day long!
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 05:31 AM
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with KN you run the risk of damaging your MAF as a result of all the extra crap you let through.

i started a thread on this a while back.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=543231









plus then theres this "bob the oil guy" who did an extensive experiment comparing all the air filter possibilities. turns out Nissan OEM filters have the best flow vs filtration ratio.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 06:27 AM
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with KN you run the risk of damaging your MAF as a result of all the extra crap you let through.


If you're an idiot that puts too much oil on your filter, then you shouldn't be allowed under the hood of any car.

I have driven my VQ's a combined mileage of over 200k and have yet to have these types of problems, i.e. too much 'crap'.
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 06:29 AM
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it can be either from too much oil or not enough oil.
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 06:36 AM
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by shadyonedeath
So should i invest into a cone instead? Cai?


I already have the y pipe. My overall goal is Mileage.


plans:
-Remove rear seats
-Remove spare tire
-remove trunk lining etc.



any others? oh yea, and a HOw-to to remove rear seats if you have it
I achieved my best mileage (on my 95 gxe auto) with a true CAI (filter in the fender well) y-pipe, and after removing and cleaning the UIM, LIM, IACV, TB, and PCB. New plugs might not hurt either. I touched 30 mpg once in a while. Usually about 26-28 though. This is about 80% highway driving...and driving like a granny. rpms<2000 ftw.
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mowgli29
rpms<2000 ftw.

What a buzz kill. I would rather take a hit in MPG than drive that slow
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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What a buzz kill. I would rather take a hit in MPG than drive that slow
I agree, I usually take it in between 3000 to 3500. One of the great things about the Maxima is that you don't have to rev it a lot to get moving. In my Prizm, in order to get decent momentum I'd have to push it down near half way. Granted that car got 33 MPG in the city regardless. I might buy another Prizm to go along with the Maxima just so I can save on gas lol.
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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Won't significantly increase mileage.
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by shadyonedeath
Also, what type of FUEL FILTER should i buy? Can i get them at local auto parts stores?
AIR FILTER - get OEM, they'res no good reason to get anthing else, but there are a lot of bad reasons. OEM is around 15$ IIRC

FUEL FILTER - get OEM, for the same reasons.
You can check the stickies and the oil/maintenance section for info on the 300zx filter if you want, but IMO it's not worth the headache.
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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but IMO it's not worth the headache.
@ headache.
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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I worked at a nissan dealer and the service department was constantly replacing mass airflow sensors because of reuseable filters getting oil on them because the are so close. get a intake that will move the filter further if you want to be safe and get power gains
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I worked at a nissan dealer and the service department was constantly replacing mass airflow sensors because of reuseable filters getting oil on them because the are so close. get a intake that will move the filter further if you want to be safe and get power gains
Originally Posted by Me
If you're an idiot that puts too much oil on your filter, then you shouldn't be allowed under the hood of any car.
Apparently these people fit that criteria because they took their car to the dealership
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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+1^

but K&N filters are one of the worst for allowing the most particles through the filters, whether they are properly oiled or not.

As far as it being a 'headache', yeah, you're right, its not really too too bad, but like I said I just don't personally feel its worth it, the only real gain is the service period (if you're n/a) and the filters are cheap so I'd rather change it more often than mess around getting the bigger one in there. But to each their own.
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by shadyonedeath
So should i invest into a cone instead? Cai?


I already have the y pipe. My overall goal is Mileage.


plans:
-Remove rear seats
-Remove spare tire
-remove trunk lining etc.



any others? oh yea, and a HOw-to to remove rear seats if you have it
the rear seats in a maxima are foam....they way a totaly of maybe 15lbs...go get on the tread mill if ur that woried about gas/weight....
wow..
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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Particles or not, 200k with 2 VQ's, not a problem. Oil is clean as hell too.
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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I switched to a 300zx Fuel Filter just now, wasnt too hard.

Originally Posted by toyick
the rear seats in a maxima are foam....they way a totaly of maybe 15lbs...go get on the tread mill if ur that woried about gas/weight....
wow..
I weigh 190lbs 6'3....kthanksbye & stfuppercut
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave H.
The drop in K&N panel filters can be worth the money if you plan on keeping your car until it reaches the end of its life. That way you 'may' get your money out of it.
Refer to thread: how long does a maxima last
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by shadyonedeath
I switched to a 300zx Fuel Filter just now, wasnt too hard.



I weigh 190lbs 6'3....kthanksbye & stfuppercut
is this supposed to be a performance mod...
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by devilz05
What a buzz kill. I would rather take a hit in MPG than drive that slow
at 2k rpm a 4th gen can go about 80 Km per hour, you do the math...its not about how fast you get to the speed limit...the vq has plenty of torque to get to the street speed limit without going over 2k rpm, and if yours doesnt, then you need to fix it...

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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by andrei3333
Refer to thread: how long does a maxima last
I wasn't asking how long it will last, I was saying that buying a K&N may be cheaper in the long-run instead of buying several stock replacements. But if he doesn't think he will keep his car long, then it may not be worth it.

I know how long a maxima can last.
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by andrei3333
at 2k rpm a 4th gen can go about 80 Km per hour, you do the math...its not about how fast you get to the speed limit...the vq has plenty of torque to get to the street speed limit without going over 2k rpm, and if yours doesnt, then you need to fix it...
thank you! Once I got used to not accelerating quickly, I really enjoyed the mileage. Plus it makes stomping on it more fun when the time comes.

Now my 5spd...thats a different story
Old Feb 13, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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if you want a gain and a cone k and n get their K&N Filter RF-1048. use a velocity stack with it. Gains your can feel. http://www.bpinitiatives.com/products.html#Photo_2
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