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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Z31 Rear Brake Conversion/Upgrade Write up

Ok so for a while I've been wanting to do this but was waiting for my junk yard Maxima rotors and pads wear some more. Finally bought new pads and 300zx rotors and converted on Tuesday.

Some clarifying, I'm using Maxima calipers and pads, all I've changed was the torque member with one off an 89-90 maxima (shown in last picture) and the rear rotors from a 1986 300zx

Needed parts for swap:
-2- 1986 300zx rotors part number:31136
-Maxima brake pads
-torque member off 1989-90 Maxima
-caliper grease for guidepins
-brake parts cleaner



Tools needed for swap:
**Air tools (compressor, grinder, ratchet, impact gun) are optional but very helpful**
-jack stands
-jack
-13/16 or 22mm
-14mm socket
-17mm wrench
-30mm socket
-Needle nose pliers
-hammer
-brake piston cube
-3/8 extension 4"+ preferable
-and obviously a ratchet 3/8 and 1/2 would be nice.

1. Start by jacking up car from rear "crossmember" or subframe

2. support car with jackstands under jacking points

3. Remove wheels (loosen nuts prior to lifting if no airtools available)

4. Remove 14mm bolts on caliper to separate from caliper braket

5. Remove 17mm bolts holding caliper bracket to torque member

6. Cut dust shield with air grinder using metal cutting disc. (If no air grinder, you might have to remove rotors and shield prior to cutting)

7. Remove rotor, if not loose enough to pull, simply hit it with the hammer

8. Remove dust cap from hub with screw driver or just bang it with hammer like I did, remove cotter pin with needle nose plies and pull hub after removing 30mm nut.

9. Remove 4- 14mm bolts and pull dust shield, torque member should come out too but you will need to bang it with hammer as well.

10. position correct side torque member from 89-90 max where it belongs, place trimmed dust shield over as well and tighten all 4- 14mm bolts (i tightened them in a cross pattern, figured it worked like wheels do)

11. Put hub back in place, make sure that "squared off" washer goes in as well, tighten 30mm nut and install a new cotter pin.

12. Pull guide pins from caliper bracket, clean them and re-grease them as well as the rubber boots, if these suckers rust out, it's completely worthless to even have any upgrade in the back.

13. After inserting guidepins back, take the caliper and the piston tool along with a ratchet and extension and turn in a clockwise motion until the piston is fairly flush with the caliper so your new pads fit. (Be sure not to rip your piston seal/boot with the piston tool..it can easily slip off the piston)

14. Once caliper piston and guidepins are good to go, take the rotors out the box/bag, clean them up with Brake parts cleaner to get rid of anti rusting oils and place rotors on hub.

15. Once rotor is on, install caliper bracket with the 2-17mm bolts, might as well install pads too.

16. slide caliper over bracket/pads and tighten the 14mm bolts (you might have some difficulty as the caliper will extend a bit farther up but keep trying)

17. ok, try turning the disc and see if theres any resistance, just a bit? good enough, put the wheel on tighten the lugs to 87 lbs in a cross pattern and you're good to go on that side. Do the same for the other.








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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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So the advantage of this over a full BB conversion is just the ease of doing it? Is the difference in braking still pretty noticeable?

Edit:
And will it fit under stock rims
Old Feb 23, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunther
So the advantage of this over a full BB conversion is just the ease of doing it? Is the difference in braking still pretty noticeable?

Edit:
And will it fit under stock rims

the pads are cheap Morse and just got done breaking in...at first I didnt notice a difference but now I'm starting to feel a bit.

The way it works is that the calipers are further out having more angular leverage. That is the explanation I've gotten. Makes sense.

After having the conversion done, your rear disc end up nearly if not the same size as the stock front rotors so it looks nice and even. If the stock rims clear the front rotors, I would assume the rears would clear as well, dont mark my words though as I've got 16" 97-99 SE rims.
I got some pics with the stock setup and I will try to snap some shots with the new rotors for ya soon.

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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunther
So this makes the rears more comparable to the front brakes?
As to what aspect? Size-wise or stopping power wise?
Old Feb 23, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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i did this write up a long time ago john.
Old Feb 23, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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Have you looked into whether the Z31 dust shield can fit well there? When I did this two weeks ago I just removed the shield instead of cutting it.
Old Feb 23, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
i did this write up a long time ago john.
**** happens, link me yours so i can compare. From what I've seen its just pictures

I havent checked into the shields...there IS a z31 at the jy...
Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Thats not a torque member.. It's a BRACKET.

Torque member holds the caliper... Caliper holds the pads...

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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Torque member is the thing that holds the pads in place, and the caliper bolts to
Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by goon9
Thats not a torque member.. It's a BRACKET.

Torque member holds the caliper... Caliper holds the pads...
Well, then shall we slap Brian and Matt (traxtar)? thats the name of the part I got from those 2 sources.
Old Feb 23, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ColombianMax
Well, then shall we slap Brian and Matt (traxtar)? thats the name of the part I got from those 2 sources.
told you i wasn't the only one who'd notice
Old Feb 23, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
told you i wasn't the only one who'd notice
hahaha shut up, you know I'm le lazy I'll wait for Wayne to do it
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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much like alot of parts there are multiple names for a part depending on who you ask.
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
much like alot of parts there are multiple names for a part depending on who you ask.
like axle seals. zomg. differential oil seals, axle seals, driveshaft seals, transmission output shaft seals (that's where we finally found them at Advanced last night).. thank god brake rotors are just brake rotors.
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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There ya go, different manufacturers, different names. Anyway, Brian you got the link for your write up?
Old Feb 25, 2008 | 06:39 AM
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There ya go, different manufacturers, different names. Anyway, Brian you got the link for your write up?
can't find it
Old Feb 25, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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*cough*

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*cough*

I had a set...
Old Feb 25, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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thinking about doing this where are the pics of the finished install
Old Feb 26, 2008 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Big_E-Dog
thinking about doing this where are the pics of the finished install
lost the camera yesterday
Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:40 AM
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thinking about doing this where are the pics of the finished install
looks like stock.
even fits under the stock SE wheels.
Old Feb 26, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
even fits under the stock SE wheels.
thanks brian
Old Feb 26, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_E-Dog
thinking about doing this where are the pics of the finished install
I'll post a pic here when I get home, the wheels are off anyway.
Old Feb 26, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_E-Dog
thinking about doing this where are the pics of the finished install
Alright so I have 2 pics I took with my cell here they are...before and after
Pardon the rust and body damage, it should be gone soon (yay)

BEFORE (notice how much gap between rotor and inside of rim)


AFTER (notice how smaller that gap got )






OT, picked up my gf some sawblades and now she's pimpin that max
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oh yeah i like that....

ima look into the caliper rotor thingy thanks
Old Feb 27, 2008 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Big_E-Dog
oh yeah i like that....

ima look into the caliper rotor thingy thanks
No prob dude It'll look better when its warmer after I polish up and paint the calipers and have all that rust gone
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so the difference... which was a bigger change in stopping power, and overall balanced feel? drum to stock disc, or stock disc to z31 upgrade?
Old Feb 27, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Ugh. Here are some pics from when I was offering the brackets custom made:





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Nice paint job Jeffy.
Old Feb 27, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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What's the difference between the 89-90 brackets and Jeffy's version?
Old Feb 27, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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availability. IIRC, Jeff's are copies of them- the OEM brackets are unavail from the dealer, so you gotta go junkyard diving to find them. often yards won't let you pull just that bracekt off the car- they make you take the whole rear axle or the whole brake assembly for $$$$.
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Best place to go for items like the brackets would be a u-pull it type yard..they will let you take any one part for a set price..probably a couple bucks at most..
Old Feb 27, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Ugh. Here are some pics from when I was offering the brackets custom made:

[img]http://inlinethumb27.webshots.com/14042/1157945523044714720S600x600Q85.jpg[//img]

[img]http://inlinethumb56.webshots.com/32695/1156103789044714720S600x600Q85.jpg[//img]

[img]http://inlinethumb13.webshots.com/39820/1156103603044714720S600x600Q85.jpg[//img]
Do you happen to have any of them lying around still? I'm thinking all the junked 3rds are 92-94 GXE's around me...
Old Feb 27, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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So, if I have a 90 with the rear disks, I would only have to change calipers and rotors? The bracket is the same?
Old Feb 27, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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I don't have any. I COULD have more made but I would require a pre-commitment of at least 5+ people before I order. They are expensive and sell like molassas
Old Feb 27, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I don't have any. I COULD have more made but I would require a pre-commitment of at least 5+ people before I order. They are expensive and sell like molassas
Sounds like this thread will draw some interest.
Old Feb 27, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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Jeff is that just on the third gens. I have a third gen but i am looking for something for my 4th gen thats where all the money is going.
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Just 3-gens. 4 gens our **** outa luck unless they shell out for Matt's kit.



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