I've pondered them before, only because my tires seem to rub when i go for the full complete turn of the wheel. I have 215/50/17. aren't very much wider than the stock so they shouldn't rub, but they do, just barely and only on full turns. was wondering if maybe the offset i got on the rims im using is maybe causing this? how can i check the offset of the rims I have? I was debating if puttin 5mm spacers on would help in anyway, let alone be safe without getting longer studs?

car is dropped with suspension technique springs and koni struts. btw im not sure what part is rubbing...the inside of tire on inside of wheel well, or the outside of tire on the fendor. im pretty sure its rubbing on the inside tho

 

get down there with a flashlight and have a look. you can see where the wear is on the tire.

 

once i get back from taking dog to vet, ima jack the car up. it looks like inside of tire is rubbing in wheel well, towards the front, on driver side. which im guessing means when i do full right turns its rubbing...maybe the plastic shield in wheel well isn't seated right.

 

well i just looked at them both driver and passenger side fron tires are rubbning the inside. so when I turn sharp right my driver side tire is rubbing, and when i turn sharp left my passenger side tire is rubbing.

the rubbing has cause some of the wheel well pastic shield thing to wear to the metal slightly on both sides. if i put 5mm spacers on them im almost certain that would get rid of the rub. not sure why they would be rubbing they aren't that wide of tires, barely wider than stock, and i see some 3rd gen owners on here are running 235/45/17 which would be wider than my 215/50/17

 

you are probably running a wheel with too much offset. the third gen runs a fairly low offset wheel.

 

You think YOU have rubbing issues!? I run a 245 tire that is stretched!

Nothing wrong with running longer studs and spacers. Given you buy a qaulity hub centric spacer. I can't see how 5mm's will make Much difference.

You really should just get a wheel that fits. I spent about 500 in spacers studs alone to properly fit all 4 of my wheels.

 

what are stock rim offsets? and what points do i measure to figure out what mine are?

 

stock rim offset is 35mm. take your rim off and see what u have. There should be an offset stamped somewhere on your rims. Yes offset can mak eor break you. I run 40mm and they rum a little. But no big deal to me.

 

just found info from where i got them from... they are ASA ka3, 17x7.5" 35mm offset. the rubbing is tolerable only because i don't need to take sharp on the dime turns and when i do im going very slow usually into a parking spot. guess i'll just live with it. thanks guys

 

I`m surprised u rub w/215`s w/ 35mm offset. I run 235 w/40mm offset

 

255/40/17s on 17x8 +25mm here. no rubs, except on the inside of the wheel well at full lock.

My advice is to simply not turn the wheel to full lock- especially when you're backing up, cause it's possible to slice open the side wall of the tire on the sheet metal frame rail.

 

If you get a spacer, don't go wider than 3/4 inch wide. I have buddies that work at a wheel joint and they see these retards trying to put 24" rims on with 1.5" spacers to make them fit. That's both hard on the wheel studs and ball joints. You always want to get the thinnest spacer possible.


I'm running 235/40/18's and I need a 1/2inch spacer just to clear the BBK....no rubbing though!

 

Anything bigger than 3/16" is too thick for the stock studs. make sure you install longer studs if you're going to use any thicker than that.

BUT.. 17x7.5 +35mm wheels shouldn't need spacers at all.. can't get much more centered than that.. ESPECIALLY with those tires.

 

On stock wheels I could scrape the inner sidewall if I turned the wheel All the way, but I always avoided turning too hard. I don't see the concern. As long as you have like 1/2" from the tire and strut your good. The only other reason you would want spacers is a wider stance... Good safe spacers Are not CHEAP.

BTW where are the pics of the wheels?

 

this is just a pic i found of them on ebay....

I know, not the best looking rim out there but it was in my budget and I like them, but not love hehe

ya im suprised im rubbing too..I'm glad you said that matt. I see how backing up and turning could slice the tire, i would of never thought of that until it happened. Its barely rubbing at all, so as long as wheel isn't locked in full turn it dont rub. as far as 1.5" spacers, thats huge . I was thinking of 5mm spacers, I think thats smallest they make.

I think they are closer than 1/2" to the strut, I'll have to look again. Guess if they are closer than 1/2" to the strut I'll debate the spcers, if clearance is good I just won't be turning wheel all the way.

Thanks for the inputs guys.

 

I`m glad u guys put recommendations on spacers. I was thinkin of putting some eibach pro spacers on to give me a wider stance but had no idea of how narrow to go on em . 3/4" (19mm) or 1/2" (13mm) sounds like an idea

 

You should only use spacers as a last resort to buying wheels with the proper offset. Doing it to just widen the stance has more drawbacks than good. the wider you go, you increase stress on the wheel bearings, struts, suspension bushings, wheel studs, and you increase scrub radius as well- which can actually make handling worse if you go too far.

BTW, 1/2" of clearance to the strut is plenty. I have more like 1/8" on mine and have never had them rub, even on the race track.

 

Why not just a lower profile tire

 

lower profile with the same rim/width, or adjusting witdh to preserve outside diameter? I don't like messing with the OD on the basis that it can potentially screw with your speedometer, odometer, acceleration, and gas mileage.

 

I don't get it at all. When I was rollin on 17s (on 91 se) I had some 50 profiles and had not rubbing at all even w/245s in the front and 255 on the back. I'm sure your problems will dissappear if you swap them wheels out for some higher offsets. I'm rolling on(92 se) 18 in RVMs (nothing fancy) and still no rubbing w/235 40s and shopping for some wider tires.

 

Ive heard different brands differ in sizes that are labeled the same size of other brands?

like how shoe sizes are different from diff brands, but share the same #

Im runnin some yoko 520's

 

Yoko 520s are wider than most of the cheap performance stuff like Kumho and Falken. I'm running Yok 520 in 245/45/17 on mine now and they're much wider than the 245/45/17 I ran in Falken ZE512 or Kumho MX or Cooper Zeon or Dunlop SP9000.

 

Just a quick idea.There is a adjustable stopper bolt on the hub. Could one not just adjust that a bit. Yes one would lose a bit turn on the wheels but will stop the rubbing.
I circled the stopper bolt in red:

 

.... That would be too easy.

 

haha... well i guess if his tires rub so bad that you can't turn it that far anyhow, then he's got nothing to lose but the rub.

 

I prefer to call it self-clearancing.

 

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