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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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Another quiet Sunday afternoon.

This is the 2nd Street Warz event of the year. Not as many racers because of the distance (3 hrs from Toronto) but still a $350 afternoon. Same trophy as last race. My total is now up to $1900 for the year.

You will notice the times aren't all that quick, I just run as fast as necessary to cross the finish line first.

The pics and videos are from Guelph racing a local club that covers the Sport Compact events.

http://jime.f-sw.com/Race2008/BlackCivicvsRedMaxima.wmv
http://jime.f-sw.com/Race2008/TurboZ24vsRedMaxima.wmv


Old Jun 28, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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dang man very impressive! love the sound of the max! how much were you spraying?

you mean you won $1900??
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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Nice work Jime!


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dang man very impressive! love the sound of the max! how much were you spraying?

you mean you won $1900??
I'm almost positive that he wasn't spraying. I don't think that he sprays at all anymore.
Old Jun 29, 2008 | 05:48 AM
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I'm almost positive that he wasn't spraying. I don't think that he sprays at all anymore.
Yes this is N/A, I haven't sprayed for over 3 years now.

The $1900 is my total for 2008, this race I won $350 for 1st.

Also my M&H slicks are toast so I am using up a pair of M/T 22's on the millenia wheels and a pair of M/T 24.5's on my Kosei K1's. I bought another pair of M&H 23x7.5x15's which I will mount when the 24.5's are shot which is real soon. For anyone interested I got the M&H's directly from M&H for $150 ea and $28 shipping to Canada which is a real deal compared to what they cost locally.

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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 06:59 AM
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Congrats on the trophy and positive cash flow. Your car looks like a sleeper, looks very stock, exhaust etc, but you are flying. You're not spraying or turbo, how are you going so fast? Thanks for posting videos, impressive!!

I'm still kind of new to the whole 1/4 racing but I enjoy it a lot.

So help me make sure I understand.
1. You are bracket racing.
2. You both choose a time of 12.50, which means you cannot finish faster than that time.
3. The first one to cross the finish line wins, as long as you don't finish faster than your designated 12.50 time. I like the fact they start you guys together, I've seen some bracket racing where one car is getting a huge headstart and the other guy place catch up. Not as fun to watch.
4. In the first race you crossed the finish line first even though the Civic ran a faster 1/4mi 12.776 to your 12.794 and crossed the finish line going 113mph while you finished going 103mph. Did you just crush him in reaction time or something?
5. The second race very similar but what caused that Z24 rear to bounce like it did just past the start lights?
Old Jun 29, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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Congrats on the trophy and positive cash flow. Your car looks like a sleeper, looks very stock, exhaust etc, but you are flying. You're not spraying or turbo, how are you going so fast? Thanks for posting videos, impressive!!
The engine is a swapped 3.5 with full ECU, cams and headers. Stock 4spd auto trans with 3500 stall converter, UTEC, V-Manage and Suprastick to manage the engine and trans.

Originally Posted by Apollos2
I'm still kind of new to the whole 1/4 racing but I enjoy it a lot.

So help me make sure I understand.
1. You are bracket racing.
2. You both choose a time of 12.50, which means you cannot finish faster than that time.
3. The first one to cross the finish line wins, as long as you don't finish faster than your designated 12.50 time. I like the fact they start you guys together, I've seen some bracket racing where one car is getting a huge headstart and the other guy place catch up. Not as fun to watch.
4. In the first race you crossed the finish line first even though the Civic ran a faster 1/4mi 12.776 to your 12.794 and crossed the finish line going 113mph while you finished going 103mph. Did you just crush him in reaction time or something?
5. The second race very similar but what caused that Z24 rear to bounce like it did just past the start lights?
1. This is not a true bracket race, it's a headsup race for cars running 12.5 and slower on a .500 pro tree so its more like a 12.5 index race.

2. The time is chosen by the event organizer but yes you cannot finish faster than 12.5.

3. Yes

4. Yes, reaction time is crucial. Against the Civic the rt's were .096 vs a .240, against the Z24 it was .116 to a .359. It's much harder to get a low reaction time with the pro tree because you can't anticipate like the sportsman tree. These guys aren't used to the pro tree and also don't get the practice I do.

5. The Z24 was shifting from 1st to 2nd hence the bounce. If you watch carefully you can see his other shifts as well but not as pronounced as the 1-2. I knew I was ahead and the Z24 couldn't catch me so I let off at the end just to ensure I didn't run faster than 12.5

The rules etc are here if you are interested. Check out Street Warz.

http://cscs.ca/content/view/25/38/

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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jime
The engine is a swapped 3.5 with full ECU, cams and headers. Stock 4spd auto trans with 3500 stall converter, UTEC, V-Manage and Suprastick to manage the engine and trans.
Wow. Well........I've got the 3.5 part for my car


Originally Posted by Jime
1. This is not a true bracket race, it's a headsup race for cars running 12.5 and slower on a .500 pro tree so its more like a 12.5 index race.

2. The time is chosen by the event organizer but yes you cannot finish faster than 12.5.

3. Yes

4. Yes, reaction time is crucial. Against the Civic the rt's were .096 vs a .240, against the Z24 it was .116 to a .359. It's much harder to get a low reaction time with the pro tree because you can't anticipate like the sportsman tree. These guys aren't used to the pro tree and also don't get the practice I do.

5. The Z24 was shifting from 1st to 2nd hence the bounce. If you watch carefully you can see his other shifts as well but not as pronounced as the 1-2. I knew I was ahead and the Z24 couldn't catch me so I let off at the end just to ensure I didn't run faster than 12.5

The rules etc are here if you are interested. Check out Street Warz.

http://cscs.ca/content/view/25/38/
Got it! Except for the part about the tree...I'm not sure which tree we have at Bandimere. It goes, yellow, yellow, yellow, green. Is that the sportsman tree?
Old Jun 29, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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Thats freekin awesome. Very well done. Sleeper indeed.
Old Jun 29, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Apollos2
Wow. Well........I've got the 3.5 part for my car




Got it! Except for the part about the tree...I'm not sure which tree we have at Bandimere. It goes, yellow, yellow, yellow, green. Is that the sportsman tree?
Yup the yellow, yellow, yellow, green is the sportsman tree. When they switch to pro tree (its all done with their computer) all 3 yellow flash at once then green so you can't red light unless your car is very fast, but you also can't get a great reaction time.
Old Jun 29, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jime
Yup the yellow, yellow, yellow, green is the sportsman tree. When they switch to pro tree (its all done with their computer) all 3 yellow flash at once then green so you can't red light unless your car is very fast, but you also can't get a great reaction time.
Interesting. I can get decent reaction times on the sportsman tree then. Never seen the pro tree. Man, I can't wait to go to the track, (got my Cattman Y-pipe and Nismo exhaust for this season) but it never fails, something always comes up. Heck, I'd even try a bracket if I can get a test/tune night in. The car isn't extremely fast but pretty consistent, bottom line, it's alway fun.
Old Jun 29, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jime
The engine is a swapped 3.5 with full ECU, cams and headers. Stock 4spd auto trans with 3500 stall converter, UTEC, V-Manage and Suprastick to manage the engine and trans.
What CVTC parameters did you use?
What are the cam specs? (deboluz, correct?)
HS headers?
What timing & AFR were you tuned at?
What shift points?
Z33IM & Motordyne 5/16" spacer?

Sweet times as usual!
Old Jun 29, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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thats a damn fast car and i like the door handles too ...
Old Jun 29, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
What CVTC parameters did you use?
What are the cam specs? (deboluz, correct?)
HS headers?
What timing & AFR were you tuned at?
What shift points?
Z33IM & Motordyne 5/16" spacer?

Sweet times as usual!
Yes
Yes
Timing for Sun was 24 across the board (fairly conservative) and a/f 12.5
Shifts around 6500
Yes

I have 5 maps set up with different timing that I can just switch to at any time. I have one at 5 deg for setting up the a/f then the rest at 24, 26, 28 and 30.

Next weekend is a 2 day event $500 each day (no slicks) I think it will be a 2nd gear launch. I did borrow a couple of 245/40x18's from my Son's Z so I will see if they can hold 1st gear if not 2nd it is. My DR's bit the dust and I'm not buying another pair for 1 event.
Old Jun 29, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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I'm seriously considering a UTEC as of late. Being that Cobb and Osirus just don't seem to want to pursue the A33B ECU.
Old Jun 29, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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just out of curiousity how much tranny do you go through yearly, and most important, what is the major difference from an E-manage U to a V-manage U???
Old Jun 29, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
just out of curiousity how much tranny do you go through yearly, and most important, what is the major difference from an E-manage U to a V-manage U???
This is the 3rd year for this one, approx 750 1/4 mile runs on it.

The V-Manage controls the variable valve timing only, I think you know what the E-Manage U does. I use the UTEC for engine management, the E-Manage did not work too well with the 2002 ECU, burns coils and very erratic readings.
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gotcha, but a EU should do well for my DEK right??? im really looking into that suprastick, amazing
Old Jun 29, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Where can i find how to get the utec to work on a 5.5gen. I was to by a UTec tuner that it wouldnt work on my car!
Old Jun 30, 2008 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay_pee99
Where can i find how to get the utec to work on a 5.5gen. I was to by a UTec tuner that it wouldnt work on my car!
lol
Old Jun 30, 2008 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
gotcha, but a EU should do well for my DEK right??? im really looking into that suprastick, amazing
The EU will work well for the DEK.

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Where can i find how to get the utec to work on a 5.5gen. I was to by a UTec tuner that it wouldnt work on my car!
You have to hardwire it like the EU, its not plug and play like the Z and G35 unless you have a 6th Gen.

http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/4...tec-4-5-a.html
Old Jun 30, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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thanks and congrats again on your victory
Old Jun 30, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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Ohhh, ok. i kind of figured that. Sorry about the broken english in my earlier post. I was half sleep!lol
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Originally Posted by Jime
Yes this is N/A, I haven't sprayed for over 3 years now.

The $1900 is my total for 2008, this race I won $350 for 1st.

Also my M&H slicks are toast so I am using up a pair of M/T 22's on the millenia wheels and a pair of M/T 24.5's on my Kosei K1's. I bought another pair of M&H 23x7.5x15's which I will mount when the 24.5's are shot which is real soon. For anyone interested I got the M&H's directly from M&H for $150 ea and $28 shipping to Canada which is a real deal compared to what they cost locally.
Congrats on another good day Jim!

That's definitely a great deal on the M&H's!! Is that their regular shipping rate too? Via which carrier?
Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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Congrats on another good day Jim!

That's definitely a great deal on the M&H's!! Is that their regular shipping rate too? Via which carrier?
I believe that is their regular rate. It came Purolator 4 days.
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