well i was going on a small road trip and all was going well until the car starting making a bad knocking noise. I pulled the car over and looked under the hood and the crank pulley looked like it was was out of wack. I trailered it home and pulled both belts off and the pulley def moves a lot in and out. I wasnt able to get the pulley bolt off so i am having some one look at it tomm. I dont know if the pulley would make that noise or if i have a rod knock. I guess we'll know soon enough. If i do need a block . wheres a good place to buy an engine online. I live in Louisville , Ky

 

The elastomer between the inner pulley and the outer pulley more than likely has failed!

 

how is that fixed?

 

Replacing the crank pulley.

 

would a bad crank pulley make a loud knocking sound? where is the best place to buy a crank pulley ? I dont want a lightweight one or any smaller pulley. I just want an OEM style pulley

 

It could.

Should we assume that you've already checked the obvious, and it's not hitting the timing cover or anything else?

Have you tried moving it back and forth by hand to see if it makes noises?

Classifieds, junkyard, wherever.

 

i am not sure how to check to see if its hitting the timing cover.

 

You...look at it. Then you look at the timing cover. Then you look for space in between.

If space in between does not exist, NG.

 

yea its not hitting the cover

 

bad news. metal shavings in oil and looks like may be a bad bottom end. i have looked on car-parts.com and found an engine for around 750.00. I plan on selling the car and wonder how much i could even get for the car as is or if swapping the engine and then selling would be better. 02 max, 108K miles. Auto. Sterling mist. Bone stock

 

I say swap the engine then sell. You will get alot less if engine is bad.

 

yea i kinda figured that , i paid 6500 for it a few months ago, You think i could get like 4500 for it as is

 

That would be tough IMO. But with it running I think you could get 6. So if engine is only 750, IMO you would profit more just replacing it. Especially if you do the labor yourself....

 

My bet is you broke your crankshaft.

The pulley on the end of the crank moved in and out about 1/2 inch. the way it broke the pieces were still able to mesh together and turn.

Never heard of this happening to a Max motor. Must have been a flaw in the crank.

My bet is you wouldn't get much in the shape it's in. $2500 to $3000 if you are lucky.

If the rest of the car is in good shape I'd replace it and keep it. Usually these motors are pretty bulletproof.

Sorry for the problem.


I had Volkswagen back in the day and that's what happened. The car still ran for awhile (20 miles) until the bearings finally went.

 

i am still up in the air on what i want to do, i am still really pissed and would rather just drive the car off a cliff and watch it burn but no money in my pocket going that route. I wonder if i change the engine if its better to take the engine from the top or drop it through the bottom

 

If you don't have a lift, then top is much easier.

If you do drive it off of a cliff, make sure you get it on tape.

 

i have a buddy with a lift who may be able to help me if not then would have to use a cherry picker

 

You have to disconnect the tranny from the engine on these.

A little more work than some cars when you have to pull the engine. Either way you choose, good luck. I haven't seen an engine go out that early that wasn't boosted and wasn't due to oil consumption.

 

How so?

 

A bad crank pulley can make a knocking sound. It can also squeal like a bad a/c compressor. I'd eliminate the crank pulley as the problem before you swap engines.

 

He mentioned metal shavings in the oil so it has to be internal. As the crank moves back and forth it tears the bearings and journals to bits. Hence the metal.

 

Metal shavings in the oil has got to be internal...whether or not the crank pulley was initially the problem or not.

I have a stock crank pulley from the VQ35DE i could sell you, but this really isn't your problem.

 

i tried to get the pulley off but couldnt get the bolt off.

 

A breaker bar, socket, and extensions should be all you need, assuming you've secured the flywheel.

That or an impact.

 

Pffft, fix the pullley, flush the oil and drive it till she blows!

Then you can replace the engine haha

I'm interested to see how much abuse it can take.

 

How much shavings? Can you turn the bottom end by hand (1/2"drive)?

 

yeah i can turn it by hand using the 1/2 drive. i am going to try and get that pulley off and start the car with no pulley or belts and see if she still knocks

 

You will need an impact wrench to remove the pulley. To get it in there you probably will need to remove the radiator. A lot of work to go about it that way.

An easy way to remove the pulley without an impact wrench is to use a 1/2" breaker bar with an extension on the ground. Remove the ignition fuse so that the car doesn't turn over. Crank the engine and it should loosen up instantly. If your crank shaft is indeed the problem than this really won't help you. LOL

 

Why would you have to remove the radiator to get the crank pulley off?

That is a bit of work, especially removing the radiator for absolutely no reason.

 

i have tried to use an impact with no luck, i dont think the tank is big enough, i am going to try again though but i think the internals are screwed

 

How many Miles on your engine?????

 

only around 108k

 

True idk u never no anything is possible hope u figure it out tho...

 

looks like its off to the shop to get the engine replaced. Then she is gonna be for sale