I was coming home from work at about 5:30 tonight and i pulled from a side street on to a bigger street. As im about to pull out i see hid looking lights so i wait to see what it is. It turns out to be my buddy(Tl-S driver) from high school who was been running his mouth about how slow maximas are. We stop at a light and my other buddy(gtp driver) sticks his head out the window Tl and asks me if "i want to race" and I tell him yes and to trun right at the light. So we turn right onto a two lane road with a 45 mph speed limit. I shift into 1st and let my car get up to around 4k when he hits it when has half a car lead and before me. I then floor it and pull about 2 cars on him to about 75 when we hit traffic. Both of us then pull onto a side street and first thing out of their mouth's are "what the **** is in there". I tell them what i have done and i was on my way. It felt good to show these clowns that the maximas arent a joke.

 

congrats on the kill! what do you have under your hood anyways? just curious...and are you a 5-speed?

 

No i have an auto w/ jwt, exhaust and stillen ypipe.....also the 2 cars i said i won by inclued the 1 car lenght i pulled back b/c he started when i was behind him and before me. I actually only was ahead of him buy 1 cr lenght when we stopped.

 

Uh oh, now you've done it, here come's Acura-TL.com...but, I really gotta wonder how you gained 2 car lengths on a TL-S with just intake and exhaust, especially off the line. My friend has a CL-S, and off the line I'm at his back bumper till 90 when I start to pass him. I have the JWT intake, Cattman y-pipe, RT Cat, and UR UDP with an auto tranny. Are you sure he's a type-S, and maybe not a regular TL?

 

It was definetly a TL-S. The driver is my friend. The race was from a roll also. Maybe your car is slow down low.

 

Well, I recently had the chance to play with a 4G with JWT intake, y-pipe, and JWT ECU, and I was noticeably quicker off the line, not once but several times. He was even with me above 90 and was able to pass me when I hit my limiter. So yes, I would go so far as to say that I can beat a similarly modded 4G off the line, hence in a relative sense, I'm not slow down low.

 

sorry b.. 4th Gen auto's are faster than 5th Gen auto's

i believe it.. most CL-S run high 14's 1/4 mile.. TL-S are slower than CL-S .. lots of 4th Gen Auto's with his mods are running low 15's.. deezo and mechanic stock auto's are running mid 15's.. when two cars are running those close numbers.. anything is possible.. hey.. this isn't a 4th Gen auto and a TT Supra..

even though i saw a TT Supra at track this saturday running 14.6..

 

Adam's (CHI99Limited) 99 auto is a factory freak or something...he is dead even with his brother's (MAX2000JP) 2K 5-speed SE on the highway....I dunno..his car is quick...

 

Lets just wait for this thread to get locked...

 

I believe it's possible, but I was judging from my own experiences racing a modded 4G and a CL-S. If he has a factory freak, then that takes the usual circumstances out of the equation. And at least as far as modded autos go, like I said, I raced another .org member with I/Y/ECU in his 4G auto and won from the line and at speeds below 90, after which it was dead even. I PM'd him as a courtesy to ask if he minded if I posted it, then maybe it'll seem more credible.

 

The Cl-S can achieve 0-60's of mid-low 6's. And...as for the new '02 TL-S's, they can achieve 0-60's of low 6's. They are both very fast. If it was a '02 than your friend is on crack b/c he shoulda taken you out no prob.

From a dead stop that is. Getting your revv's high in 1st = SERIOUS speed. But I would never downshift from 20mph+ from D into 1st. It's bad for engine/tranny. (notice the big jerk you get) But yes, you get serious speed b/c you are in 'flooring' speeds already.

 

Tl's car fast if they are in the powerband, but if there outta V-tech for get it, there about as slow as a pinto, they never do good on a rolling start, but thats just my $.02

 

When my bro was back to stock i raced him(2k se 5spd) and beat him on the highway from about 70 to 110 by half car. Maybe i have a freak, im gonna go to the track in the spring when it opens back up.

 

Hell yeah, by all means, milk it, and see what you run. All the more to help the sleeper image.

 

dude...those things are NOT that fast....I raced my buddy in his CL-S from a light in my modded 5-speed....and I was so far ahead of him by second gear...that he just gave up....from a rolling start it's a little closer..but I still spank him BAD...

when I was BONE STOCK...and on bald *** tires...I raced him from a dead stop.....spun ALL THE WAY through 1st horribly...and I still beat him.....pretty sad for the CL-S....

 

Most CL-S run 14's??? You mean capable of high 14's at best?

 

fastest stock CL-s I have seen at at track....15.1....they are NOT slow...fastest TL-s I have seen at the track...14.4, with headers, exhaust, cold air intake, and ECU upgrade...

 

thats quite a lot of mods just for a 14.4 dont u think go maximas!

 

That's actually a STOCK 2k2 Max 1/4 time

 

You can't compare manual to auto. Stock 2k2 Max has run 14.7. Still fast, but not quite a 14.3.

 

Many members in the car community give the Maxima a good amount of respect. Usually it's the people who know something about cars. =)

 

The TL-S is NOT faster than a CL-S. Both only run low-15's in the 1/4 mile stock.

The TL-S that was circulating the mags had what one mag called an "experimental exhaust manifold" (*cough*Comptech-Headers*cough*) which for $1400 installed produce amazing gains on those cars. That's how the mag-tested "factory wringer" TL-S was getting high-14's but the mechanically identical CL-S only got low-15's.

This is why so many of the TL-S ppl think they're the shia even though they're really a half second slower than what they think they are

 

Hmm that seems hard to believe. 5spds have trouble and I seriously doubt a auto would even fair especially a 4th gen auto.

 

No they are not. Paul2kGXE ran 15.4 stock

Also, I ran another 4th gen auto to put this to debate with my 2k auto. He had alot more mods than me, and I smoked him by 1 1/2 cars. Some of the guys took pictures. Ask JustinMC for the pics, he was there, and I won the bet

 

i was being generous..

 

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Paul2kGXE ran 15.4 with a cone intake... go back and do some research..

 

What's research?

 

I beat 2k 5spds all the time.. Medic beat 2k 5spds.. does that mean 4th Gen 5spd and Auto's are faster than 2k 5spds? you can't base your experience on the whole wide situation..

as i recall.. you beat Ants.. and Ants beat you.. so whats the conclusion? you are faster? or Ants is faster.. everyone's car is tuned differently at different times.. but on a whole.. 4th Gen AUTO's are faster than 2k AUTO's.. don't argue.. DEAL WITH IT!!!!

 

A TL-s is Auto

 

Car-stats.com gives the times pretty accurately. The 2002 TL-S ran 6.2 0-60, and the CL-S 6.4 0-60. I know the CL-S has 260 horses. I really think these are pretty accurate numbers.

Bri-Guy, you are probubly a good shifter and with the mods and torque your car has, I don't doubt you beat a CL-S off the line and through second gear. 5spd 4th Gen's stock are fast as funk.

Can anyone give another website or some "facts" about 1/4 & 0-60 of these cars ?

 

What kind of facts are you looking for? Is the word of your fellow Maxima drivers not good enough? If someone says he beat a CL-S by 2 car lengths I don't see what the problem is. It's not like he's driving a stock Civic Ex and claiming the same thing.

Stereodude

 

That Max was stock wasn't it? vs quite a few mods on the TL-S?

 

Car-stats.com gets all it's information from Magazines...If you want to be a mag racer...don't do it on these forums. Personal experience and the experience of other auto enthusiasts is what I will respect...I don't respect car mag results...

All I'm saying is that I PERSONALLY have ridden in, driven, and raced the 99 SE-L auto in question here...and from my expeience he should have no problem with a type-s

 

its the crimson.. its the crimson i tell you

 

Paul had that thing hooked up to his intake. Megamax and I was faster than all the 5th Gen autos at the track.

 

it's gotta be....and the 4x4 with a body kit on stock rims look.....

 

don't tell Jeff from PA

 

I was looking for a magizine that might have done a comparison, evaluated the acura engine, did various and repetitive speed tests, ect.

I am not doubting their victories, but I still won't walk around saying that Maxima's can beat CL or TL type S's, becuase of someone else's experiances.

I will try to keep it down though becuase I know how ****ed briguy gets when he hears about mag times.

 

http://autoweek.com/search/search_di...69195&record=4

Look at their write-up on the CL-Type S and the speeds it can achieve.

 

and AGAIN...more quoting of MAGAZINE articles....right after the post in which you said you were going to pipe down about mag times.....

Craig - Have you driven or raced a type-s?????