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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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H3 LED Bulbs for your fogs

I am in the market for new fogs and came across this site,
http://www.carhidkits.com/led-fog-li...white-269.html
Kind of pricey, but they look good. Anyone ever heard of these?
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 07:42 AM
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They look nice color wise but have no usable light output, just buy an HID kit from one of the forum sponsors.
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 07:59 AM
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I use some H3 LEDs in my fogs that are similar to those. Mine are not "high power" and have 36 SMT LEDs on each. It's true that they look really good, but they don't have any useable output (not that I care) Here is a link to pics of mine:
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...-led-mods.html
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jowo9
I use some H3 LEDs in my fogs that are similar to those. Mine are not "high power" and have 36 SMT LEDs on each. It's true that they look really good, but they don't have any useable output (not that I care) Here is a link to pics of mine:
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...-led-mods.html
Awesome work man!!
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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They look nice color wise but have no usable light output, just buy an HID kit from one of the forum sponsors.
I thought about HIDs, but dont feel like blinding people. Those things are freaking bright as well.
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rroderiques77
I thought about HIDs, but dont feel like blinding people. Those things are freaking bright as well.
For 84.99, you can get a top of the line 35w HID kit with digital ballasts and all. That's way freaking expensive for those LEDs. I'm pretty sure I've seen them around for less...

If you're worried about blinding people, just get the HIDs and aim them down...

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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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MIK3 is using Amber SMD LED's in his fogs. The same ones I'm using in my daytime running lights, although obviously the fogs are H3's and the running lights are wedge. But beyond the connector, they're identical.

Here's the thread.

It's a big thread, and we often segued around into other topics. But there's still tons of good info there.

I tried them in my fogs, and they looked absolutely gorgeous at nighttime. But at dusk or daylight, they were pretty much invisible. Maybe the bright white would be more noticeable, don't know... I was experimenting with amber.

I was thinking of re-evaluating that opinion again when it warms up.
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jowo9
I use some H3 LEDs in my fogs that are similar to those. Mine are not "high power" and have 36 SMT LEDs on each. It's true that they look really good, but they don't have any useable output (not that I care) Here is a link to pics of mine:
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...-led-mods.html
Looks great! Great information!
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
For 84.99, you can get a top of the line 35w HID kit with digital ballasts and all. That's way freaking expensive for those LEDs. I'm pretty sure I've seen them around for less...

If you're worried about blinding people, just get the HIDs and aim them down...
Dont you have to get hokey with the bulb as the standard HID buld does not fit in the cabinet, or have they progressed where a certain bulb makes the cabinet P/P?
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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Oh geeze... I didn't realize the OP was looking at spending $85 on these things.

Roy, that's WAY too much money. The bulbs MIK3 used (and I experimented with)... I only paid $18 for those.
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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Dont you have to get hokey with the bulb as the standard HID buld does not fit in the cabinet, or have they progressed where a certain bulb makes the cabinet P/P?
The set I have fit in there just fine. I had to do a little fidgeting, but no cutting or modifying of any sort. And I had to bend the glare shields down just a touch to get the bulbs to fit without rubbing, but other than that it was all P/P.

Although, I am going to go back and re-wire them directly to the battery with a relay because they seem to be having issues getting enough power from the factory fog lamp wiring...
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
The set I have fit in there just fine. I had to do a little fidgeting, but no cutting or modifying of any sort. And I had to bend the glare shields down just a touch to get the bulbs to fit without rubbing, but other than that it was all P/P.

Although, I am going to go back and re-wire them directly to the battery with a relay because they seem to be having issues getting enough power from the factory fog lamp wiring...
What is the bulb "number" D2R..??
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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I recently purchased these from e-bay and they just arrived so I haven't installed them as of yet but for the price I thought I would share the info.

This the web link to his online store: http://stores.ebay.com/icbeamer
you will note his prices are quit good (I picked up my bulbs for .30 for the pair, (but the 14.99 shipping was a pain in the ars)

This is a picture from his web store showing the output:


And this is a picture of the actual product I received, look pretty good, can't wait to get them installed.
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Colonel
What is the bulb "number" D2R..??
Actually, the HIDs are H3s, same as the stockers. Just HID vs halogen.

Originally Posted by Ghost_54
I recently purchased these from e-bay and they just arrived so I haven't installed them as of yet but for the price I thought I would share the info.

This the web link to his online store: http://stores.ebay.com/icbeamer
you will note his prices are quit good (I picked up my bulbs for .30 for the pair, (but the 14.99 shipping was a pain in the ars)

This is a picture from his web store showing the output:
You can get 55w H3 bulbs from Autozone for about $14.50. I've used them, and they are considerably brighter and whiter, but the lifespan is about half of a stock 35w halogen...

If the ones you bought are 100w, I'd be wary about melting the brackets, too. The 55s I got were considerably hotter than the 35s.

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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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I have these currently installed for over two years now and they are 100w and nothing has melted anywhere, they do get warm but not hot enough to melt anything.


I picked up the ones I listed in the above thread because they were listed as 5000k and for a .30 bid thought why not. You are correct that the stock bulb is 55w but the OEM color was just plain crab and I was looking for a whiter light without having to go HID
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
For 84.99, you can get a top of the line 35w HID kit with digital ballasts and all. That's way freaking expensive for those LEDs. I'm pretty sure I've seen them around for less...

If you're worried about blinding people, just get the HIDs and aim them down...
Good idea. I'll do that

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Oh geeze... I didn't realize the OP was looking at spending $85 on these things.

Roy, that's WAY too much money. The bulbs MIK3 used (and I experimented with)... I only paid $18 for those.
I know. I will keep looking

Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
Actually, the HIDs are H3s, same as the stockers. Just HID vs halogen.


You can get 55w H3 bulbs from Autozone for about $14.50. I've used them, and they are considerably brighter and whiter, but the lifespan is about half of a stock 35w halogen...

If the ones you bought are 100w, I'd be wary about melting the brackets, too. The 55s I got were considerably hotter than the 35s.
I had 100w bulbs. The pass side blew, cracked and stained the fog lens
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghost_54
I recently purchased these from e-bay and they just arrived so I haven't installed them as of yet but for the price I thought I would share the info.

This the web link to his online store: http://stores.ebay.com/icbeamer
you will note his prices are quit good (I picked up my bulbs for .30 for the pair, (but the 14.99 shipping was a pain in the ars)

This is a picture from his web store showing the output:


And this is a picture of the actual product I received, look pretty good, can't wait to get them installed.
Are you getting rid of your old ones then? Want to sell them? How was the install?

Originally Posted by Ghost_54
I have these currently installed for over two years now and they are 100w and nothing has melted anywhere, they do get warm but not hot enough to melt anything.


I picked up the ones I listed in the above thread because they were listed as 5000k and for a .30 bid thought why not. You are correct that the stock bulb is 55w but the OEM color was just plain crab and I was looking for a whiter light without having to go HID
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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^^^ na not selling the old ones I'll most likely keep them around just incase I blow one of the newer ones - and I haven't installed the new ones yet as it's been to cold to be laying under the car right at the moment. But I'll let folks know how they look once I get around to putting them in.
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i would totally go for those if you wanna match the HID color (and if i had the money). as for output, i too heard theres little to none. but i have an LED maglight and its bright as hell with one panel, so maybe those really arent all that bad. you might have found the next generation of LED automotive lights.
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by anomaly117
i would totally go for those if you wanna match the HID color (and if i had the money). as for output, i too heard theres little to none. but i have an LED maglight and its bright as hell with one panel, so maybe those really arent all that bad. you might have found the next generation of LED automotive lights.
True, they are bright. I have a flashlight with 24 LEDs in it, and it's great for working in the engine bay, etc. But past 10 feet or so, there's barely any light.

LEDs are good up close, but as far as luminescence distance-wise, they're no good.
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Originally Posted by anomaly117
i would totally go for those if you wanna match the HID color (and if i had the money). as for output, i too heard theres little to none. but i have an LED maglight and its bright as hell with one panel, so maybe those really arent all that bad. you might have found the next generation of LED automotive lights.
This the output from my LED bike helmet mounted light:

Old Jan 16, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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I recently bought 6000k hid's from the group buy. I love them but they took some modification to the wiring to get them to fit like stock. They are nice and bright and match my factory hid good. But like Scottwax said, led's are brighter than you realize. The difference is in the wattage. Probably 95% of what you see and buy is rated less than 1 watt and only 5-20 lumens. A good quality 1 watt led flashlight will shine @ 50-100 feet and you can see clearly. I have a 3 watt with 180 lumens and shines 100 feet easily with twice the light output. The pattern is round and cone shaped. So put in the correct housing to control the pattern it would make a perfect foglight. No heat or power draw. You guys are just looking at some CHEAP quality led's.
Old Jan 16, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
True, they are bright. I have a flashlight with 24 LEDs in it, and it's great for working in the engine bay, etc. But past 10 feet or so, there's barely any light.

LEDs are good up close, but as far as luminescence distance-wise, they're no good.
Disagree, because...

Originally Posted by anomaly117
i would totally go for those if you wanna match the HID color (and if i had the money). as for output, i too heard theres little to none. but i have an LED maglight and its bright as hell with one panel, so maybe those really arent all that bad. you might have found the next generation of LED automotive lights.
I have a LED maglite too, and I enjoy blinding people far away while I'm sitting in my car bored.

... in for ghost_54's output photos.
Old Jan 16, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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LEDs have absolutely NO output, these are mine in amber

http://forums.maxima.org/7331187-post77.html
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It depends on a variety of things. You can't just say "LEDs have no output". You can get single LEDs (SSC P7 or Cree MC-E) that are very bright (in the 900lm range). You can also get LEDs that suck. Clustering a bunch of crappy LEDs isn't necessarily a recipe for success.
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I...want..brighter..fogs....
Old Jan 16, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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55W HID them then...
Old Jan 16, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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Keep on believing all that advertising...the dead give away... lie as usual is " Like HID"...HID and halogen are like comparing quails to ostritches....and as far as LED they are bright but have no real penetrating illuminating power
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I have 35watt hid in the fog and with my headlights on ppl be pulling to the side of the road cause the lights are bright
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Originally Posted by lilmanvc
I have 35watt hid in the fog and with my headlights on ppl be pulling to the side of the road cause the lights are bright


I doubt it...unless you have your headlights completely mis-aimed. I have 35w in my fogs right now because I'm a cheap, frugal ****, and I can barely see them at night.
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try and get 4300 or 6000 for brighter fogs.

35w is usually more for color
55w is usually more for output IMO

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I doubt it...unless you have your headlights completely mis-aimed. I have 35w in my fogs right now because I'm a cheap, frugal ****, and I can barely see them at night.
It depends on the HID bulbs. H3C (compact) HID bulbs don't work correctly in our fog lights. They spray light everywhere and have a lot of glare because the arc is in the wrong place. The slightly longer H3 HID bulbs are a lot better and have a pretty clean cutoff.
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Originally Posted by Stereodude
It depends on the HID bulbs. H3C (compact) HID bulbs don't work correctly in our fog lights. They spray light everywhere and have a lot of glare because the arc is in the wrong place. The slightly longer H3 HID bulbs are a lot better and have a pretty clean cutoff.
I forgot they made the short bulbs. And I mis-read his post (sorry dude).

But yeah, I had the longer H3 bulbs, that's why I had to bend my glare shields down...the light pattern was pretty even and it did a good job of lighting the road. Until the ballast gave out.
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