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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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Found an odd device under my dash...

I had to research what it was...

It's an Enfora | MT-Gi-GSM2354...

So, I had to find out what it does... and I'm a little surprised that this is in my car. It's a GPS location device with Cell Phone technology - basically it calls a provider to tell them the location of my car...

That's not cool.

So needless to say - it's out of the car and sitting on my desk.

By the way - this thing is VERY SMALL about the size of a Dental Floss container, black carbon look (molded plastic), and only connected by two wires - constant +, and a ground - it had two other wires from it's harness also, but they weren't connected - one for switched +, and an output signal. The device has 3 leds in it - Red for power, between a USR1, and a USR2 - all were lit when I found this thing - which means it was active.

Oh, and I found it cause it had come out of where ever they had it and was laying on my floorboard with the wires running up into my dash, I wouldn't have noticed it if it weren't for the lights on it.
Old Apr 9, 2010 | 06:02 PM
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Do you know if your car was ever sold at a "we tote the note" type place? My cousin once had a regal from a place like that. The thing had some kind of GPS in it, and they found it in western Kentucky.
Old Apr 9, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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Got a jealous girlfriend or ex-wife who wants to know where you are?
Old Apr 9, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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Where did you get the car from? I know that rental companies also put gps trackers in. Maybe there was a wanna-be LoJack type system installed?
Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tigersharkdude
Do you know if your car was ever sold at a "we tote the note" type place? My cousin once had a regal from a place like that. The thing had some kind of GPS in it, and they found it in western Kentucky.
Yeah, I'm buying it from one - but I seriously doubt they are paying a 'cell bill' to keep track of the car.
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Got a jealous girlfriend or ex-wife who wants to know where you are?
Married 20+ years for a reason.
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Where did you get the car from? I know that rental companies also put gps trackers in. Maybe there was a wanna-be LoJack type system installed?
From what I can tell I'm the third owner of the car - the 2nd owner had all work on the car done at Sam's Club - so maybe they had it installed, I'm thinking that this may have been a company car for the 2nd owner...

Edited to add image.

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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:38 PM
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The dealer probably put it in there. I bought my ex-wife a 98 Maxima from a tote-the-note place several years ago. We let the insurance lapse on it. She went to a PTA meeting at our kids school...the guys from the dealership came to my house looking for the car...I told them she was out...they left. 20 minute later I get a call from my ex saying the car was gone. The next day I got insurance, got the car back, and as soon as I got it home I tore the car apart looking for the tracker. There it was mounted to the wall plate behind the back seat back...getting power from the passenger side power seat. It had a back-up batter connected to it, so I took that out and installed a switch to the tracker. A friend of mine on here got a 99 MAxima from the same place and found his tracker behind the gauge cluster.
Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:46 PM
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yup.. just another way for the Feds, government, president, FBI, CSI, and our MOMS to watch our every move. man! 2012 is coming quick.. LOL j.k.

Ima search my car for one of these. this is scary
Old Apr 10, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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hope i don't have one in my max
Old Apr 10, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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Well, hope they can track it with it not being connected to ......, and no battery in this on...

Besides, my car is always paid up, and so is my insurance (too many accidents in my past to let that lapse)...
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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Well then in that case, leave it connected. If by chance your Max gets stolen they may be able to locate it that way.
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JNCoRacer
Well then in that case, leave it connected. If by chance your Max gets stolen they may be able to locate it that way.
i second that.
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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w00t, I hope I have it now! (Maxi paid off from day 1).
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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If my car is stolen, I'll do the same thing I did LAST time - I'll go get it back myself.

(Seriously - unless they tow it - it ain't going ANYWHERE - I've done things that prevent theft)
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Killswitches are niiiice.
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JNCoRacer
Killswitches are niiiice.
I put one on every car I buy - never in the same place - and never wired the same as the previous cars...
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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Same here. Hidden in a place to where it looks natural when getting in and out of the car. Dont want anyone seeing me reach for anything. My girl is the only one who knows where my killswitch is...since she's the only other one who drives my car.
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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killswitches = good idea
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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That's just crazy. If I ever had that it'd probably be my stalker gf.
Old Apr 13, 2010 | 01:56 AM
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The Supreme Court has ruled that law enforcement does NOT need a warrant, probable cause, or any reason whatsoever to place a GPS device on the EXTERIOR of your vehicle, on the basis that it does not invade your privacy due to the fact that your car is pretty much always visible to the public in the first place.

Just a little PSA for you guys who might be worried about that kind of thing. Check under your car regularly.

As for the interior, it could be left by the previous owner. Car rental companies like to use GPS to monitor their cars, some have even been known to give you a surcharge when they catch you speeding, due to the increased risk of damage and wear/tear on the vehicle. Other kinds of business that operate fleet vehicles might also use these. Real estate companies or courier services perhaps.

If you are ultra paranoid, hook up a GPS jammer and fix the issue permanently.
Old Apr 14, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by v3rtex7740
The Supreme Court has ruled that law enforcement does NOT need a warrant, probable cause, or any reason whatsoever to place a GPS device on the EXTERIOR of your vehicle, on the basis that it does not invade your privacy due to the fact that your car is pretty much always visible to the public in the first place.

Just a little PSA for you guys who might be worried about that kind of thing. Check under your car regularly.

I know 90% of the Altamonte Springs and Seminole County officers, because my wife used to work at a 7-11 that they liked stopping at on the way to the fuel depot (which is located at the secondary E-manage office which is beside my apartment complex. - So if they wanted to find me they'd just knock on my door...

As for the interior, it could be left by the previous owner. Car rental companies like to use GPS to monitor their cars, some have even been known to give you a surcharge when they catch you speeding, due to the increased risk of damage and wear/tear on the vehicle. Other kinds of business that operate fleet vehicles might also use these. Real estate companies or courier services perhaps.

If you are ultra paranoid, hook up a GPS jammer and fix the issue permanently.
I could see this possibly being a business owned vehicle due to the previous owner getting everything serviced at a Sam's Club...

edited for grammar - or typo - yeah....
Old Apr 14, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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I'm kinda naive here, but what's the "we tote the note" mean?
Old Apr 14, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Korath
I'm kinda naive here, but what's the "we tote the note" mean?
When you buy a car on 'payments' the 'Bank/Finance Company' technically owns your car until you pay it off - the 'paper work' for all of this is called 'the Note' - as per the originals (back in when Henry Ford was making Model A cars ) had "Note of Sale" on them -

Bit of car history for ya!

Typically Buy Here/Pay Here car places have a 'financial dept' (usually one guy with a degree in Accounting/Banking/Finance) - that signs off on any loans. = that paper is the same as a bank loan 'note'...
Old Apr 14, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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jees i hope there isnt one in my max when i buy it
Old Apr 14, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Not cool at all, I wonder if I have on somewhere in my car??? NOT COOL!
Old Apr 14, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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Haha I wouldn't have one, my dad bought my maxima brand new in 96 and it's been paid off for years! I never thought about this, now it has me thinking haha.
Old Apr 15, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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where can i find this lol i might be tracked
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sspomonag
where can i find this lol i might be tracked
It works on cell phone networks. If you have a set of speakers or a radio or something that makes that "dut-dutduhhh" noise when a cell phone is about to ring, use that. Listen for said noise when there is no cell phone in the car.
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 04:47 PM
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Mine was under the dash - from how it was wired I think they just had it laying on that main harness at the front bottom of the dash.
Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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Huh, I never knew that. Thanks man.
Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Dude, you gotta take this to the place you got your car from. Be nice, but be pissed, they might take some cash of your payments if your lucky lol. Its worth a shot.
Old Jul 7, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Dude, you gotta take this to the place you got your car from. Be nice, but be pissed, they might take some cash of your payments if your lucky lol. Its worth a shot.
I highly doubt they will take anything off.
Old Jul 7, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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I saw this on "Repo men" They track the cars so they can repo them if you don't pay.
Old Jul 7, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by secondtonone317
I saw this on "Repo men" They track the cars so they can repo them if you don't pay.
Old thread - but they can't track what is no longer connected - that thing is sitting just like the image shows on my desk...

On another note: There is a fuse in the car labeled 'PHONE' (in the under dash fuse panel)...
Old Jul 7, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SiathLinux
Old thread - but they can't track what is no longer connected - that thing is sitting just like the image shows on my desk...

On another note: There is a fuse in the car labeled 'PHONE' (in the under dash fuse panel)...
I had a phone in my car. Stopped working in like 2000 lol, I removed it.
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