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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 02:00 PM
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my ticket cherry got popped

Sooooo..I got my first ticket today after 6 years of driving. That too for a stop sign on top of a hill from a cop car two cars behind me. Anyone know the fine for this in NY? I'm a full time student and a court date might conflict with my schedule.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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Here in WA, the fine for whatever infraction that was committed is on the ticket itself. Look @ your ticket and see if it's there too.

That too for a stop sign on top of a hill
what? Did you run the stop sign or somethin'? Your post ain't clear what you got popped for.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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A court date for not coming to a full stop at a stop sign? That just gives me another reason why not to move to the state of NY.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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They don't show the fine in NY. The ticket's only a summons to which to plead guilty or not. And to clarify, the cop said I didn't fully stop at the sign.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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There must be a website for you to go to look up that.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by T_Behr904
There must be a website for you to go to look up that.
I could only find the points part. Nothing on fine.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 419vq35
I could only find the points part. Nothing on fine.
From what I saw on the NY DMV site, the ticket fine can vary from location to location.
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roughly 150 is what I keep coming up with in my quick searches...
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 03:13 PM
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roughly 150 is what I keep coming up with in my quick searches...
Here it's about $120. Running a red light is somewhere around $215, and since it's a moving violation it's 3 points on your license. You can get those removed by going to traffic school or taking the traffic school class online. There is no need to go to court. You don't get a summons for something like that here.
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I am glad we don't have points or anything like that here in WA.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Amerikaner83
I am glad we don't have points or anything like that here in WA.
You don't get points for non-moving violations, such as parking tickets, window tint tickets, etc.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 03:24 PM
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This blows. Only because I took the stick max to school today this happened. =(
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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I got a speeding ticket in NY about 5 years ago. No summons, just a big ole fee. It sucks you just got a summons. At least you can negotiate a little at the court house...gl
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 04:08 PM
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That sux, they are strict on complete stops where I live too. I have 1 point left on my license so I make sure I come to complete stops.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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Ok, answer me this: was the cop right behind you or near you when he pulled you over? Did you see him before you ran the sign or do you know where he was?
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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^ Fighting it is obviously an option. But OP did point out he does not have time to be going back and forth to court. If he fights it he is looking at about 2 trips to the courthouse. Not a big deal if its close. And each trip can be anywhere from 1-4 hours.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 05:32 PM
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When I got my first (and only) summons, I just plead guilty and paid it. The fine was $50 and the surcharge was $80 IIRC.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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^ Fighting it is obviously an option. But OP did point out he does not have time to be going back and forth to court. If he fights it he is looking at about 2 trips to the courthouse. Not a big deal if its close. And each trip can be anywhere from 1-4 hours.
Yep it's made to be an inconvenience for a reason. They rather have your money. You have multiple options here to pay for a ticket... go in and pay in person, pay online, or mail it in.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 05:35 PM
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If it is truly your first ticket you can plead nolo contendre, assuming your state has that option, which means no points and you just pay the ticket and go. Probably pay it through the mail too. Dont go to court to wait 4 hours to argue over $150. You will literally lose the entire day and have to come back again to actually argue it. Trust me, I have had quite a few tickets
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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3 points, I believe like around 170. In NYC at least.
Outside of the city they'll probably cut you a deal on points and raise the fine.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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Just gotta be more aware while driving. It's easy to forget to use a signal, or not come to a complete stop, etc., especially if driving in a low traffic area around your neighborhood or just being out and about on your day off.

The cops around here used to cut you slack, but not recently. They will pull you over for almost anything they can think of now. One of my g/f's co-workers got pulled over at night when she got off of work right after she left a drive-up ATM machine. She was still in the parking lot where the machine was and the cop said that one of the two tag lights on her Suburban was burned out. She got a ticket for it too, but IDK if she paid it or fought it. You only have to have one working tag light here, since there are cars that are only equipped with one tag light.
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Originally Posted by ChrisMan287
When I got my first (and only) summons, I just plead guilty and paid it. The fine was $50 and the surcharge was $80 IIRC.
Oh, and I just mailed in a money order. I did not have to appear in court.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe
If it is truly your first ticket you can plead nolo contendre, assuming your state has that option, which means no points and you just pay the ticket and go. Probably pay it through the mail too. Dont go to court to wait 4 hours to argue over $150. You will literally lose the entire day and have to come back again to actually argue it. Trust me, I have had quite a few tickets
I have never heard of a nolo contendre without an actual arrest. Remember this is just a ticket. Although, I have never heard of a summons without an arrest lol.
Old Sep 10, 2012 | 06:28 PM
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The good ole "california stop" as they call it, I got this ticket in 10 one late night in the Z in Dallas. Then Dallas gave you the option to plead no contest, see an arbritrator and he reviewed your driving record, with a good record he lowered my ticket from 200 to 160 no points. Options were deferred adjudication for 90 days 160 bucks, 2nd option was 175 and driving school...I chose D.A. Now if you plead no contest or not guilty you have to go to actual court........

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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 06:30 PM
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I have never heard of a nolo contendre without an actual arrest. Remember this is just a ticket. Although, I have never heard of a summons without an arrest lol.
Yeah it's possible. My first time pulled over I got a speeding ticket. I had a lifted Jeep Grand Cherokee with bigger tires and didn't recalibrate my speedo. He said I was doing 37 in a 30, but my speedo said I was probably doing about 32. I went to a speedo shop and they printed out a speedo error sheet for me to take to court showing how much it was off. Paid them a few bucks for it. I then set up a court date and I plead no contest and showed him my speedo sheet. I paid the court fee and I was on my way with the ticket dismissed and no points on my license.

As far as a summons goes, it depends on the traffic violation. You can get one here without being arrested.
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Originally Posted by 2damax
I have never heard of a nolo contendre without an actual arrest. Remember this is just a ticket. Although, I have never heard of a summons without an arrest lol.
In Georgia you can use it for your first ticket and only once every 5 years if im not mistaken
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Originally Posted by T_Behr904
Just gotta be more aware while driving. It's easy to forget to use a signal, or not come to a complete stop, etc., especially if driving in a low traffic area around your neighborhood or just being out and about on your day off.

The cops around here used to cut you slack, but not recently. They will pull you over for almost anything they can think of now. One of my g/f's co-workers got pulled over at night when she got off of work right after she left a drive-up ATM machine. She was still in the parking lot where the machine was and the cop said that one of the two tag lights on her Suburban was burned out. She got a ticket for it too, but IDK if she paid it or fought it. You only have to have one working tag light here, since there are cars that are only equipped with one tag light.
In nyc bulb out tickets are "fix it" tickets. You get 24 to fix the issue, bring it to the precinct and you're good to go.
Old Sep 11, 2012 | 09:50 AM
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in some states, such as TN, you can show up to court and plead guilty when the judge asks you how you plead and he will give you the option of driving school instead of paying the ticket.
Old Sep 11, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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I got done for $50 for failure to stop at a Stop sign. He was wrong but I didnt have the time to fight it as taking time off of work for loss income > $50.

If you *have* to go to court I would subpoena the video and his credentials and his most recent eye tests. Might as well run the guy through the ringer. Get everything and make it a hassle even if you didn't stop them show up and plead guilty if you are Or not guilty or whatever.

My friend did something similar to the above and it got thrown out because the cop didn't want to deal with it all.
Old Sep 12, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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Scumbag cops are finishing their quota. They're going nuts pulling people over in my town. I've decided to fight it since this is my first ticket and the cop was two cars behind me in traffic on a single lane road not giving him a good vantage point. The only reason I can think of for pulling me over is not seeing the brake lights. But, the car's stick and and the stop sign is atop a hill so I always coast to it without braking and mess with the clutch.
Old Sep 12, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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Quotas are illegal...just sayin
Old Sep 12, 2012 | 01:48 PM
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Quotas are illegal...just sayin
so is jaywalking...jus' sayin'
Old Sep 12, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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Haha. How about this...if anyone ever found out a quota was being used...the chief, at a minimum, would lose his job....not his pension though lol.
Old Sep 12, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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yes. They don't call them quotas anymore...what they do is assign a minimum amount of "public contacts" per day as a standard.

A "public contact" is pulling someone over for something.
Old Sep 12, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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Idk how true that is, but that does not mean a ticket or any kind of penalty or even pulling someone over, really. It also promotes good community policing. So I sorta hope you are right.
Old Sep 12, 2012 | 02:05 PM
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It's true man. My town gave the policing contract to the county police and the county police including the county is under heavy debt due to moron in the county executive's seat.
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http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/19...t-Memo-Details

Originally Posted by memo
Memorandum

March 1, 2012

To: Patrol Division Personnel

From: Captain Henry Trumble, Patrol Commander

Captain Frantz Desamour, Patrol Commander

Subject: Proactivity expectations 2012

In an effort to maintain consistency across the Operations Division shifts, each squad has been engaged in conversations to determine the realistic goals for all officers and corporals with proactivity expectations in order to meet minimum standards.

These goals have been determined based on shift averages, informal polls, and the discussions between the squads and their supervisors. It represents what a minimally successful, proactive officer or corporal can accomplish during unobligated patrol time for a month. Unobligated Time is defined as that time in which you are not assigned to a dispatched call for service to include the completion of all required paperwork, not assigned to a directed patrol assignment or special assignment as directed by a supervisor. if circumstances or conditions change, these proactivity expectations can be modified.

These goals have been established by the officers and corporals to best ensure their success. While there is not, not has there ever been, a quota for traffic enforcement, the numbers are indicators of activity and indicators of whether the officers and corporals are conducting enforcement pursuant to our operational directives. Everyone recognizes that there maybe circumstances or instances when these goals may not be attained for a variety of reasons. These circumstances will be evaluated by that officer's or corporal's chain-of-command. Consistently failing to attain these goals could result in disciplinary action. if any officer or corporal has any specific concerns about their proactivity or these expectations, they should discuss it with their immediate chain-of-command.

The following monthly proactivity expectations have been established:

Day shifts (A-Squad/B-Squa)
Arrests - 3, Field Observation Reports, - 3, Traffic Summons - 28 (maximum 25% warnings) Parking Citations - 15

Evening shifts (C-Squad/D-Squad)
Arrests - 7, Field Observation Reports - 5, Traffic Summons - 30 (maximum 25% warnings), Parking Citations - 5

Midnight shifts (E-Squad/F-Squad)
Arrests - 7, DUI - 1, Field Observation Reports - 3, Traffic Summons - 16 (maximum 25% warnings), Parking citations - 5.
Arlinlgton County, VA
Old Sep 12, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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Well how can I argue that. Touché!
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Damn...Never thought they made it official like that.
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