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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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Cattman Performance gen4 headers/y-pipes/cats going into production, time to order!

CATTMAN PERFORMANCE FORUM NOTICE

Just wanted to let everyone know that we're beginning several new batches of Cattman Performance exhaust parts next week (29 October), with completion in early December. No waiting and wondering when the next batch will come together, we're ready to lock and load right now.

These are the parts we’re ready getting ready to manufacture:

1. Cattman Performance header/y-pipe sets for all 95-03 Maximas and all 95-04 I30/I35s @ $817 (no EGR) and $837 (with EGR) for maxima.org members.

2. Cattman Performance FastCats (all-metal substrate bolt-in main cat) for 97-03 Maximas and all 97-04 I30/I35s @ $238 for maxima.org members or $225 when purchased with another Cattman exhaust part.

3. Cattman Performance Y-pipes for all 04-08 Maximas, all 05/06 Altima V6s, and 02-04 Altima V6s with manual transmissions @ $428 (no cat) and $618 (with all-metal cat and dual O2 ports downstream) for maxima.org members.

4. Cattman Performance header sets for all 04-08 Maximas, all 05/06 Altima V6s, and 02-04 Altima V6s with manual transmissions @ $637 (no EGR) and $655 (with EGR) for maxima.org members.

We are also taking orders for this catback exhaust system with production expected to begin in about a month (NO deposit due until production begins):

• Cattman Performance 3” catback system for all 00-03 Maximas and 00-04 I30s/I35s @ $760 for maxima.org members.

Orders require a 30% deposit, with the balance due when they're finished.

This will be the last time we make these parts in 2012. Production will be limited and the entire run is usually sold by the time they’re completed, so I strongly encourage customers to sign up now.

I won't have much time to monitor this thread, but will be glad to take orders and answer questions by phone at 520.575.6195, we’re typically open 9-5 MST, M-F. Please leave a message if I'm out or on another line.

As always, my thanks to our loyal friends and customers, past, present and future.

Brian C Catts
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 03:50 PM
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any chance you'll be making catbacks for the 4th gen?
Old Oct 23, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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^Agree. Strong interest if we could get 3" catback for 4th gen.
Old Oct 23, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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These prices shipped?
Old Oct 23, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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Same here. I'd be in for a 3" catback for an A32. Heck I'd be in for a full system (headers/FastCat/3" catback) if it were available. PP ready and not just talking out my @ss.
Old Oct 23, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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Yesssss People r Ready for this 4gen 3" catback Lets get it into production.
Old Oct 23, 2012 | 05:39 PM
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I'm in. Who else?
Old Oct 23, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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Btw, spoke to cattman. 3" for about 10 catbacks would run about $775.
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Im in for a 3" catback. Lets start a list of 10 serious buyers.

1. VQ'rInWLA
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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I would be in had not pieced my system together already. The Mandrel system from MES is the last piece I need. If I was still stock I would love to have this opportunity so good luck guys
Old Oct 23, 2012 | 11:01 PM
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I don't think a 3" 4th gen exhaust is very likely. If one does a little research on this forum, you will discover that the last time we tried this... well, let's just say it didn't work out too great. There is a small group of guys who will chime in on this as soon as they see this thread, just wait. We did one batch. They performed pretty good, but rattled on some cars (and not others). There isn't much room under there for a 3" and it is a very difficult application.

Back then, we were barely able to find enough buyers for one small batch. That's all that were sold, and I lost a lot of money on the project - didn't even come close to covering the development cost - and a year-and-a-half after they were shipped, I still had guys who were very angry that we wouldn't buy their catbacks back at full price because they rattled.

All in all, a bad experience for everybody except the guys who liked their 3" catbacks, and I don't really care to repeat it. We'd have to start from the beginning, which requires bringing a car and spending $1500+ to make and perfect a prototype, then build a manufacturing fixture.

Its the classic "chicken or the egg" scenario. I'd need to have at least 20 confirmed (meaning deposits paid) orders to justify developing the part, but customers naturally want to know exactly what they're buying before making the commitment. Particularly given the first attempt. Problem is, I won't create it unless I'm certain there's demand, and customers won't commit unless its already created. Given the first experience, we'd probably be able to make a better product, but I sure couldn't guarantee that a 3" catback wouldn't rattle now and then.

Not what you'd expect to hear, but I've always tried to tell it like it is. Boring stuff, but this is how decisions are made in an undercapitalized small business.

As far as I know, no reputable company makes any size of performance catback for the 4th gen Maxima any more, so perhaps there's demand for the Cattman 2.5" system, which works great on VQ30DE motors. Its a proven design, fits great, and we could sell it again for around $700. Like all Cattman exhaust parts, we would still need a minimum of 12 orders.

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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 02:02 AM
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Would you be willing to sell just the muffler (3" inlet)?
Old Oct 24, 2012 | 08:32 AM
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would you be willing to sell just the muffler (3" inlet)?

+1.
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Are the prices mentioned on the first post with shipping included?
Old Oct 24, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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Are the prices mentioned on the first post with shipping included?

I asked this question too, plz clarify
Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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If you want it, call him and put your money down. Otherwise posting in here is pointless. 20 people? We can barely get 10 people who will actually pay up for GD in the 4th gen section so dont get your hopes up guys.

This is the best we got:
http://www.mandrelexhaustsystems.com...EXHAUST/Detail

and yes they have a 3"
Old Oct 24, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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cattman back in action kool
Old Oct 24, 2012 | 06:23 PM
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Cattman was never out of Business!
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Its the classic "chicken or the egg" scenario. I'd need to have at least 20 confirmed (meaning deposits paid) orders to justify developing the part, but customers naturally want to know exactly what they're buying before making the commitment. Particularly given the first attempt. Problem is, I won't create it unless I'm certain there's demand, and customers won't commit unless its already created. Given the first experience, we'd probably be able to make a better product, but I sure couldn't guarantee that a 3" catback wouldn't rattle now and then.

Cattman I have the remedy for that no ratlling! I must admit even with a 2.5" Catback coming over the rear axle and clearing the chassis is pretty challenging! But I use Kartboy Poly bushings and they work! http://www2.kartboy.com/x4/.....
Old Oct 24, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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where can i see a pic of the new headers/ypipe? im guessing its equal length and 2.5"?
Old Oct 25, 2012 | 06:12 AM
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where can i see a pic of the new headers/ypipe? im guessing its equal length and 2.5"?
Of course it'll be equal length, cattman doesn't **** around. Just google the headers, the design is the same as before just that with every gen he makes little improvements here and there for better looks, quality (which is already up there) and durability.
Old Oct 25, 2012 | 10:11 AM
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Of course it'll be equal length, cattman doesn't **** around. Just google the headers, the design is the same as before just that with every gen he makes little improvements here and there for better looks, quality (which is already up there) and durability.
oh ok nice. these things go fast right? and the end pipe where the 2 pipe join at the collector is 2.5"?

edit: what about us 99 calis? cattman going to offer us o2 sims like in the past?

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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CMax03

Cattman I have the remedy for that no ratlling! I must admit even with a 2.5" Catback coming over the rear axle and clearing the chassis is pretty challenging! But I use Kartboy Poly bushings and they work! http://www2.kartboy.com/x4/.....
LOL at having the remedy for the rattling/banging. For the 987th time, your 5th gen system and scenario is very different than my three 4th gens 3" systems and the other member's 4th gens 3" systems and setups.

Myself and others have tried much stiffer hangars all around with no luck. Poly bushings are not the answer and are never going to prevent the 3" exhaust tubing enough from banging the trailing arm which is only 1/8 to 1/4 inch away.
Old Oct 25, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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Well its not made for 3" piping. I think I am going 2.5" as I dont like rattling
Old Oct 25, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe
Well its not made for 3" piping. I think I am going 2.5" as I dont like rattling
It seems you're not understanding the true reason of why the 3" bangs and rattles....Time for
Old Oct 25, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Wizard
LOL at having the remedy for the rattling/banging. For the 987th time, your 5th gen system and scenario is very different than my three 4th gens 3" systems and the other member's 4th gens 3" systems and setups.

Myself and others have tried much stiffer hangars all around with no luck. Poly bushings are not the answer and are never going to prevent the 3" exhaust tubing enough from banging the trailing arm which is only 1/8 to 1/4 inch away.
Actually I'm talking about my 98 Maxima's 2.5" MES catback.....It was pretty tight and I had to really pay attention to the rear axle cause it looks simply to clear but it can be pretty decieving! Did you cut your's and fix it YET?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N0AlhWTNfg
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Venix
where can i see a pic of the new headers/ypipe? im guessing its equal length and 2.5"?
Similar to this but with EGR.....
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CMax03
Actually I'm talking about my 98 Maxima's 2.5" MES catback.....It was pretty tight and I had to really pay attention to the rear axle cause it looks simply to clear but it can be pretty decieving! Did you cut your's and fix it YET?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N0AlhWTNfg
I see. You should have prefaced your original statement with this info. But, I fail to see why you even brought it up in the first place, as now we're talking apples to oranges as far as products and problem areas are concerned.... Regardless, glad you got your problem fixed.
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I see. You should have prefaced your original statement with this info. But, I fail to see why you even brought it up in the first place, as now we're talking apples to oranges as far as products and problem areas are concerned.... Regardless, glad you got your problem fixed.
I can fix your problem too!
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Originally Posted by The Wizard
It seems you're not understanding the true reason of why the 3" bangs and rattles....Time for
I know where mine rattled, right next to the passenger side rear tire. Also, on the brace beam near the cat. Took that off long ago as it cant do much.
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I really didn't fix it.....I fitted/fabbed this tubing kit and had it welded....My old hangars were like some 80 yr old ****....So I tried some poly hangars.....You apparently haven't fixed your problem yet......
Old Oct 25, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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Not again..

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yall can always have another hanga mount added near that trailing arm......poly of course....apple and oranges yeah size wise.....but as I stated the 2.5" was pretty tricky...so I'm sure that 3" was a PITA.....
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Originally Posted by CMax03
I really didn't fix it.....I fitted/fabbed this tubing kit and had it welded....My old hangars were like some 80 yr old ****....So I tried some poly hangars.....You apparently haven't fixed your problem yet......
I dont have a 3", like I said I am going to get the 2.5". I have heard to many rattle problems and I cant stand rattles so I know I would hate it. Im just hoping the 2.5" wont be too much trouble
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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe
I dont have a 3", like I said I am going to get the 2.5". I have heard to many rattle problems and I cant stand rattles so I know I would hate it. Im just hoping the 2.5" wont be too much trouble
I was reffering to "The WIZ".........
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Originally Posted by CMax03
Similar to this but with EGR.....
oh thanks, that rings a bell, i remember seeing these once before
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We're trying to finalize our production numbers for these parts, so give us a call if you're interested. We never know when (or if!) the next batch will be made.
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