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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 01:20 PM
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Auto Pulls so hard...all auto's should read this.

Hi...ok I still have an auto but I figured out a way to make it pull much harder then normal. For all those auto people out there, this should sound familiar. Sometimes the car seems to pull and never want to quit. This is usually when you least need the car to pull. When you want to race from lets say 60-xx the car takes a few seconds to drop gears and pull...well by then you've lost. Today, completely by mistake I found out a quick, free and painless solution.

First, take your car onto the highway going 55-60mph....around 2500rpms. Then floor it...see how long it takes to get to 70 or 75.

Now repeat...go 55-60 (whichever you were doing before)...now lift your foot off the gas for a quick second or less and floor it. Instant pull without stopping.

I think when we let go it drops gears almost automatically...I have been doing it all day and it feels like a new car. I have been pulling from all mph's and having a great time. I am curious if it works on everyone's cars or is my Tranny going?

Let me know.

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 01:34 PM
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I haven't noticed that but I know when I'm in the right gear (whether it be doing 60 in 2nd or 80 in 3rd) my car pulls hard. I just take some of the thinking away from the tranny computer to get to the power.
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 01:36 PM
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But for now I just tend to turn off 0/D.. instant response...but I also have full exhaust so that helps the pull a bit
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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Re: Auto Pulls so hard...all auto's should read this.

Yep this one does it too, Question:When your in 3rd (not overdrive), you wind out to about say 4-5000rmps when you touch the button does it almost like jump in to it(when the rpms automajically jump), or is my overdrive f-ed up.
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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Re: bahh

Originally posted by Craig Mack
But for now I just tend to turn off 0/D.. instant response...but I also have full exhaust so that helps the pull a bit
I don't notice that much difference with O/D on or off for the lower gears...actually its only supposed to effect final gear so I doubt you should either.

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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Re: Re: Auto Pulls so hard...all auto's should read this.

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Yep this one does it too, Question:When your in 3rd (not overdrive), you wind out to about say 4-5000rmps when you touch the button does it almost like jump in to it(when the rpms automajically jump), or is my overdrive f-ed up.
It does kinda jump... BTW try it at about 6700 rpms and that's a jump!
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 01:55 PM
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Re: Auto Pulls so hard...all auto's should read this.

Now repeat...go 55-60 (whichever you were doing before)...now lift your foot off the gas for a quick second or less and floor it. Instant pull without stopping.

I think when we let go it drops gears almost automatically...I have been doing it all day and it feels like a new car. I have been pulling from all mph's and having a great time. I am curious if it works on everyone's cars or is my Tranny going?

Let me know.

Erik [/B][/QUOTE]

all day, huh? you don't want that tranny to last much longer, do you?! from automagic to autotragic ...
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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Re: Auto Pulls so hard...all auto's should read this.

Hmmm, interesting. I've noticed that at times my car feels very fast and at other times its a bit boggy. I'll have to give er a try on the way home tonight. Thanks for the tip!

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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Re: Re: Auto Pulls so hard...all auto's should read this.

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Erik [/B]
all day, huh? you don't want that tranny to last much longer, do you?! from automagic to autotragic ... [/B][/QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing, must be kinda rough to do that all day. Take it easy on the ol auto. Take Care
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 03:32 PM
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Re: Auto Pulls so hard...all auto's should read this.

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Hi...ok I still have an auto but I figured out a way to make it pull much harder then normal. For all those auto people out there, this should sound familiar. Sometimes the car seems to pull and never want to quit. This is usually when you least need the car to pull. When you want to race from lets say 60-xx the car takes a few seconds to drop gears and pull...well by then you've lost. Today, completely by mistake I found out a quick, free and painless solution.

First, take your car onto the highway going 55-60mph....around 2500rpms. Then floor it...see how long it takes to get to 70 or 75.

Now repeat...go 55-60 (whichever you were doing before)...now lift your foot off the gas for a quick second or less and floor it. Instant pull without stopping.

I think when we let go it drops gears almost automatically...I have been doing it all day and it feels like a new car. I have been pulling from all mph's and having a great time. I am curious if it works on everyone's cars or is my Tranny going?

Let me know.

Erik
Yeah have noticed this too. It seems that if I am accelerating at a moderate pace, not floored but down there a ways, and then I floor it, it waits for sooo long before changing gears. But if the pedal is pretty far up still, even if I just lift it for a fraction of a second, it changes real quick like. Really sucked getting whipped by the occasional rustang when the fricking tranny wouldn't shift.
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 03:39 PM
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poor little auto's....
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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Re: Re: Auto Pulls so hard...all auto's should read this.

Originally posted by MDubya
Yep this one does it too, Question:When your in 3rd (not overdrive), you wind out to about say 4-5000rmps when you touch the button does it almost like jump in to it(when the rpms automajically jump), or is my overdrive f-ed up.
That's your torque converter unlocking. Don't worry, it's normal. There were several threads about the O/D button in the past month or two - search and you shall see =)
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 04:55 PM
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Re: Re: Auto Pulls so hard...all auto's should read this.

Originally posted by MDubya
Yep this one does it too, Question:When your in 3rd (not overdrive), you wind out to about say 4-5000rmps when you touch the button does it almost like jump in to it(when the rpms automajically jump), or is my overdrive f-ed up.
This is perfectly normal. I think your car in 4 even though you think you are in 3rd. When you take the over drive off you are forcing the tranny back in to 3rd, the overdrive locks out 4th gear so you are only working with 3 gears, which is why it revs so high
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 05:00 PM
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haha one of you guys are gonna break your car eventually...and its gonna be funny...autos are not meant to be messed around with in the tranny department because for some reason they tend to break quite easily
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 05:02 PM
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haha one of you guys are gonna break your car eventually...and its gonna be funny...autos are not meant to be messed around with in the tranny department because for some reason they tend to break quite easily
Please explain yourself.

I've driven the hell out of my automagic for 142000 miles without a single problem.
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by mzmtg


Please explain yourself.

I've driven the hell out of my automagic for 142000 miles without a single problem.
im going to agree... after reading this post, i just went out for a VERY aggresive drive 162,000 miles (stock auto)... left it in 2nd for a bit, tried this method of letting off the gas and flooring it to downshift... same as my usual method. ive heard of more people killing 3rd gear in their 5 spd than autos dying on the org, i wouldnt say they just tend to fall apart...
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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Alright, I guess a few people tried it. I hope it helps during those "racing" moments. Yeah I do beat my tranny up and yeah I have 110,000 miles and the thing is perfect and I run Nitrous all the time with no tranny mods...I want it to go but the darn thing won't. Auto's are made much better IMO then any Manual, however I am not knocking stick because I do want one. Everyone who said I would have tranny problems after the Nitrous were all wrong, I have 0 problems and it seems to be as good as ever

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:26 PM
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You sure it's not just all in your head?

Yeah, I really hate it when the stupid auto seem to take forever to downshift. On some occassion when I floored it, the car pulled very hard. On other occassion, when I floored it, I didn't seem to be going anywhere. I don't know if your technique will work or not, I'll give it a try. However now when I get the lag, either on the highway or on the street(surprisingly I get that too from time to time), I'm going to just drop it into second gear manually. I have the VB mod, which does wonders on upshifts, downshifts though I can't say the same all the time.
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:30 PM
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Now you opened pandora's box

OK, I have noticed that lifting off the throttle promotes faster acceleration. In fact, with my stock tires, I can light rubber (a little) about 30 mph doing this.

However, I have noticed, that hitting the throttle about 3/4 to 7/8 of the way (Not floored) the car accelerates much faster. When I hit higher rpm I continue to roll the throttle. Full throttle seems to be less effective. Has anyone else noticed this.

BTW, I have and intake, y-pipe, random tech cat and full exhaust. I have heard that many people say that taking the aftermarket muffler (in my case Stillen) and replacing it with the factory muffler is much quieter(True) and only loses about 2hp (I BELEIVE FALSE) low rpm seems about the same but my car does not rev as fast in the higher rpms. Has anyone else tried this?

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:35 PM
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Re: Now you opened pandora's box

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OK, I have noticed that lifting off the throttle promotes faster acceleration. In fact, with my stock tires, I can light rubber (a little) about 30 mph doing this.

However, I have noticed, that hitting the throttle about 3/4 to 7/8 of the way (Not floored) the car accelerates much faster. When I hit higher rpm I continue to roll the throttle. Full throttle seems to be less effective. Has anyone else noticed this.

BTW, I have and intake, y-pipe, random tech cat and full exhaust. I have heard that many people say that taking the aftermarket muffler (in my case Stillen) and replacing it with the factory muffler is much quieter(True) and only loses about 2hp (I BELEIVE FALSE) low rpm seems about the same but my car does not rev as fast in the higher rpms. Has anyone else tried this?

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I noticed low end power loss with my Stillen Y, Random Tech Cat, and Greddy Cat-Back.

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:54 PM
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Re: Re: Now you opened pandora's box

Originally posted by tifosiv122


I noticed low end power loss with my Stillen Y, Random Tech Cat, and Greddy Cat-Back.

Erik
Is the Greddy muffler quieter than the Stillen??? Also what nitros system do you have??? Thanks for the feedback.

PS I did feel a slight loss in the low-end too. But it really picked up from about 3-3500k and up.
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 07:01 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Auto Pulls so hard...all auto's should read this.

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This is perfectly normal. I think your car in 4 even though you think you are in 3rd. When you take the over drive off you are forcing the tranny back in to 3rd, the overdrive locks out 4th gear so you are only working with 3 gears, which is why it revs so high
No, he's clearly talking about winding out THIRD gear.

Try this - mash the accelerator with o/d off making sure the tranny is in THIRD gear (anything above 70mph will suffice). Then, with the pedal still mashed in 3rd gear, turn o/d back on, your rpms will jump several hundred rpms. This is your TC unlocking.

Another example is when you are cruising on the freeway with o/d on, and you moderately accelerate, the rpm's will rise but you are still in 4th. This, too, is your tc unlocking.
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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put a full tank of gas and it jumps better also...i just had a fill up today wit super (93 octane) and my car been pulling all day, screeching and everything, but when i was driving to the gas station, it wasn't pulling much and it was almost empty...17 bucks for a full tank of super at this nice gas station here in jersey...i bet you guys are paying over 25...tisk tisk
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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I tested this from a roll of 30 and it seemed like my tires were trying to break free all the way up to until I shut it down at 70. This method does do something but what?
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by deezo
I tested this from a roll of 30 and it seemed like my tires were trying to break free all the way up to until I shut it down at 70. This method does do something but what?
What method are you talking about...lifting foot or o/d off?

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:11 PM
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Some of you say you get lag sometimes and other time you dont. Well from what I noticed it matters where you put your foot on the pedal. You will get really poor acceleration if you step on the bottom of the pedal. I try to push on it about 1/3 of the way up from the bottom. What do you guys think am I crazy or is this true?
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:14 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Now you opened pandora's box

Originally posted by riceburner


Is the Greddy muffler quieter than the Stillen??? Also what nitros system do you have??? Thanks for the feedback.

PS I did feel a slight loss in the low-end too. But it really picked up from about 3-3500k and up.
I found the Greddy to be much louder then Stillen. The Stillen Y with Greddy Back is the loudest I have heard. I run a NX wet 75-100 shot.

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by lightboy
Some of you say you get lag sometimes and other time you dont. Well from what I noticed it matters where you put your foot on the pedal. You will get really poor acceleration if you step on the bottom of the pedal. I try to push on it about 1/3 of the way up from the bottom. What do you guys think am I crazy or is this true?
I doubt that would make a difference because if the pedal is down all the way it shouldn't matter where your foot is.

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Originally posted by lightboy
Some of you say you get lag sometimes and other time you dont. Well from what I noticed it matters where you put your foot on the pedal. You will get really poor acceleration if you step on the bottom of the pedal. I try to push on it about 1/3 of the way up from the bottom. What do you guys think am I crazy or is this true?
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by mzmtg


Please explain yourself.

I've driven the hell out of my automagic for 142000 miles without a single problem.
What is the fasest way to launch an auto? What is the safest? Would hitting the gas in 1 then going to 2 then D be good?
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by mzmtg


Please explain yourself.

I've driven the hell out of my automagic for 142000 miles without a single problem.

I give me auto hell. It works fine 90k without a problem. As far as breaking quite easily, not. Do you know how many drag cars have auto's in them. You have a more consistent time with a auto than a manual.
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 09:27 PM
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If you guys think only 80-90% throttle makes your car faster, then way don't you make a slightly taller stopper to put under the gas pedal and test it at the track?


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If you guys think only 80-90% throttle makes your car faster, then way don't you make a slightly taller stopper to put under the gas pedal and test it at the track?


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I think they mean pushing the pedal down slowly as speed rises through the gear, instead of just flooring it all at once. It keeps the intake air velocity higher I believe. Somebody used the analogy of a water hose...if you partially cover it with your finger, the velocity of the water coming out is higher even though slightly less water is flowing out of it. This is what I do at the track, especially in first, and my times are better when I do it. Don't just floor the pedal, push it down increasingly further with speed until it is eventually floored.
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I think they mean pushing the pedal down slowly as speed rises through the gear, instead of just flooring it all at once. It keeps the intake air velocity higher I believe. Somebody used the analogy of a water hose...if you partially cover it with your finger, the velocity of the water coming out is higher even though slightly less water is flowing out of it. This is what I do at the track, especially in first, and my times are better when I do it. Don't just floor the pedal, push it down increasingly further with speed until it is eventually floored.
The only problem with this method is usually our tranny's will not go to 6,000 rpms unless floored from the start...if I do it your way it will shift at 5,500...which might not be so bad.

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Originally posted by tifosiv122


The only problem with this method is usually our tranny's will not go to 6,000 rpms unless floored from the start...if I do it your way it will shift at 5,500...which might not be so bad.

Erik
My tranny doesn't do that, as long as I eventually floor it, it will go all the way . You can always manually shift through first, that what I do at the track anyway. Do you have a window switch on your nitrous? I guess it could be bad for you to manually shift becaue you could hit the rev limiter while spraying, and that might be bad.
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by mzmtg


Please explain yourself.

I've driven the hell out of my automagic for 142000 miles without a single problem.
same here, i have 147,000. only problem ive had is not having a 5th gear.
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by Dave B
If you guys think only 80-90% throttle makes your car faster, then way don't you make a slightly taller stopper to put under the gas pedal and test it at the track? Dave


I think a lot of these guys are getting majorly psyched out. There's no way 80-90% throttle will make the car faster. What they did was discover some weird spot on in the shift logic where they can get it to hold a gear from 100% to 0% to 80-90% again. The jolt you feel when you get power on again is what is faking them out I think.

There's no way this is any faster though. Just a mind trick
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What method are you talking about...lifting foot or o/d off?

Erik
Lifting off and then hitting it.
Old Feb 13, 2002 | 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by deezo
Lifting off and then hitting it.
I am glad my method worked for you too. Enjoy Driving.

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Originally posted by mzmtg


Please explain yourself.

I've driven the hell out of my automagic for 142000 miles without a single problem.
and i can testify to that
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