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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 08:13 AM
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*manual Tranny Rebuild Input Please*

Hello!

I will be starting my quiafe/tranny rebuild soon.
Also will be doing: ACT HDMM clutch, UR flywheel, UR UDP, R/T Cat, PR Motor Mounts, Trenz Grill/Valence

I just wanted some feedback/tips/recommenddations ASAP.

Eric D Wong has got me all set really, I just one last overall opinion! Thanks again Eric! If you have anymore to add please do!


Here is basically all my notes:

************************************************** *****

1. bearings you need 2 of them, 38440-96E00
2. Nissan part #32701-03E01 (speedometer drive gear)
3. differential and input seals #
4. shims
5. UDP: Replace the front oil seal, part # 13510-31U00


Extreme Nissan 1-866-233-0334 Robert shipping free overnite
1. $46.67 list my cost: 32.66 each

2. $22.92 list my cost: 16.04 each

3. $6.20 list my cost: 4.34 each * 2

4. $4.01 list my cost: 2.81 each SIZES: .44 .53 .62 .71 .80 .85 .90 .

5.

Instructions for canadian maxima 5speed rebuild: www.motorvate.ca

The extra step is just to transfer the ring gear from the included differential to the quaife
also the pics are a tad different- the canadian maxima's had LSD already, where ours had open differentials.



***Make sure they set the bearing preload and reuse the gear fluid. Make sure there’s no silver, milky, or dark stuff in there. Use a magnet to see if there are any shavings***

Misc Parts Installed, I supply:
new bearings 2 of them, 38440-96E00
shims
speedometer drive gear Nissan part #32701-03E01
Tranny seals: input shaft, 2 driveshaft, and possibly gear shifter shaft
UDP: Replace the front oil seal, part # 13510-31U00

what happens is you have to reassemble the transmission without the shims in place. then make the differential assembly move by pushing on it, and measure this movement using a dial gauge precision meter
then, using the FSM's table reference, you will know what size of shim to order. you then must take apart the tranny again and put in the shims

************************************************** *************

I would really like some more info conserning the tranny seals.
I could really use the part numbers so I can order the correct ones.

If anyone has anything to add to ANYTHING, please do so!

I really appreciate it!!!!!

Peace
Old Feb 27, 2002 | 09:32 AM
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Re: *manual Tranny Rebuild Input Please*

Wow, looks like somebody saved my IM's. I'm going to turn this thread into one of the FAQ thingys.

Originally posted by Prodeje79
Hello!
Eric D Wong has got me all set really, I just one last overall opinion! Thanks again Eric! If you have anymore to add please do!


Here is basically all my notes:

************************************************** *****

1. bearings you need 2 of them, 38440-96E00
2. Nissan part #32701-03E01 (speedometer drive gear)
3. differential and input seals #
4. shims
5. UDP: Replace the front oil seal, part # 13510-31U00


Extreme Nissan 1-866-233-0334 Robert shipping free overnite
1. $46.67 list my cost: 32.66 each

2. $22.92 list my cost: 16.04 each

3. $6.20 list my cost: 4.34 each * 2

4. $4.01 list my cost: 2.81 each SIZES: .44 .53 .62 .71 .80 .85 .90 .

5.

Instructions for canadian maxima 5speed rebuild: www.motorvate.ca

The extra step is just to transfer the ring gear from the included differential to the quaife
also the pics are a tad different- the canadian maxima's had LSD already, where ours had open differentials.


You can either use the existing speedeometer gear, by cutting/pressing the existing bearing, or buy a new one. I just bought a new one.

***Make sure they set the bearing preload and reuse the gear fluid. Make sure there’s no silver, milky, or dark stuff in there. Use a magnet to see if there are any shavings***
I'm not sure what I meant by reuse the gear fluid, what I probably meant was make sure they DO NOT reuse the gear fluid. Oh yea, and make sure its 75-w90 GL4 gear oil.

Misc Parts Installed, I supply:
new bearings 2 of them, 38440-96E00
shims
speedometer drive gear Nissan part #32701-03E01
Tranny seals: input shaft, 2 driveshaft, and possibly gear shifter shaft
UDP: Replace the front oil seal, part # 13510-31U00

what happens is you have to reassemble the transmission without the shims in place. then make the differential assembly move by pushing on it, and measure this movement using a dial gauge precision meter
then, using the FSM's table reference, you will know what size of shim to order. you then must take apart the tranny again and put in the shims

************************************************** *************
While you're at it, I think it is a good idea to check the shims of the input shaft as well, since I recently discovered that some of the transmissions have the exact same shims in them and were improperly shimmed. To do this, remove the shims of the input shaft and do the same process as the differential. Then using the FSM table and a micrometer, see if the shims in there are the correct ones. If not, order the correct ones. This step is real easy.

I would really like some more info conserning the tranny seals.
I could really use the part numbers so I can order the correct ones.

If anyone has anything to add to ANYTHING, please do so!

I really appreciate it!!!!!
OK the part #s for the output shaft seals are 38342-81X01 and 38342-81x00. Yes they are different. When you put the seals in, grease around the outside lip and dont drive them in too far. Also do it while the (the shop will most likely know all of this, this is more towards the DIYer) tranny is out of the car, and DON'T drive the seales in too far like I did, or otherwise you'll get nothing but a humongous leak.

Lets see, a few things to look out for while reassembling that I screwed up, to make sure you won't screw up. Make sure the cleaner magnet is in place, make sure the shifter rods point the right way with their detents so the shifter will have a "click" action, make sure the reverse gear is in between the reverse engagement fork and not ontop of it. Also make sure a torque wrench is always used and I recommend loctite on every threaded bolt in and outside the transmission. Be sure to TEST the tranny by giving it a spin test in every gear to make sure that it works the way its supposed to. Other then that, reassembling the manual tranny isn't too bad.
Old Feb 27, 2002 | 10:01 AM
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Re: Re: *manual Tranny Rebuild Input Please*

Thanks again Eric!

Could you or someone post a screen shot or something or the SHIM measurements needed?

Any other FSM stuff I might need, but don't have would be awesome!

Thanks!
Old Feb 27, 2002 | 11:13 AM
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Prodeje79,

Some very dumb questions. I have no idea what the inside of a tranny looks like. Having said that, how would you describe the work your going to do on your tranny. Would this be a mild rebuild - or an all out rebuild?? It seems like you've bought less than $150 worth of parts. What will this leave you with? How much will labor be?

Thanks.
Old Feb 27, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: *manual Tranny Rebuild Input Please*

Originally posted by Pappa Grande
Prodeje79,

Some very dumb questions. I have no idea what the inside of a tranny looks like. Having said that, how would you describe the work your going to do on your tranny. Would this be a mild rebuild - or an all out rebuild?? It seems like you've bought less than $150 worth of parts. What will this leave you with? How much will labor be?

Thanks.
I am paying a local shop to do the installs, Force Fed Industries.
I myself do not know much.
I am paying 13 hours labor for all my labor installing all of that.
$55 an hour.
Since I am installing my quiafe, I figured I would do some lite rebuild stuff. So I have said what I am doing, and if anyone recommends anything else, I will have that done too.
Peace
Old Feb 27, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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I also had my internals cryogencially tempered to make them stronger.
Old Feb 27, 2002 | 10:27 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: *manual Tranny Rebuild Input Please*

Originally posted by Pappa Grande
Prodeje79,

Some very dumb questions. I have no idea what the inside of a tranny looks like.
Thanks.
Look here:

www.motorvate.ca click "transmission", "5 Speed disassemble" to see the inside of the tranny.

Take Care,
Max VQ
Old Feb 27, 2002 | 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by MaxVQ


Look here:

www.motorvate.ca click "transmission", "5 Speed disassemble" to see the inside of the tranny.

Take Care,
Max VQ
I regreased my strut bearings using his website as a guide. He deserves a title other than "Newbie". Something like "Maxima Yoda" is in order.
Old Feb 28, 2002 | 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by MaxVQ


Look here:

www.motorvate.ca click "transmission", "5 Speed disassemble" to see the inside of the tranny.

Take Care,
Max VQ
Max VQ,
Thanks so much for your site man! I actually printed off color laser printer copies of some sections for my mechanic and gave him the link as well.
Do you recommend any other parts I should order?
I am going to do one new post of everything I have revised.
So far my parts I need:
1. bearings you need 2 of them, #38440-96E00
2. Nissan part #32701-03E01 (speedometer drive gear)
3. differential and input seals:
1 right CV seal and 1 left CV seal #38342-81X01 and #38342-81x00
input seal and the gear selector seal
4. shims
5. UDP: Replace the front oil seal, part #13510-31U00

I need some part numbers for the input and gear selector seals,
any other parts at all? Did you read my post? hehe A link to your site is right in the middle. =P Thanks again for all your hard work making that site!

Peace
Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by Smooth Operator

I regreased my strut bearings using his website as a guide. He deserves a title other than "Newbie". Something like "Maxima Yoda" is in order.
Can I second that?
Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Prodeje79


Max VQ,
Thanks so much for your site man! I actually printed off color laser printer copies of some sections for my mechanic and gave him the link as well.
Do you recommend any other parts I should order?
I am going to do one new post of everything I have revised.
So far my parts I need:
1. bearings you need 2 of them, #38440-96E00
2. Nissan part #32701-03E01 (speedometer drive gear)
3. differential and input seals:
1 right CV seal and 1 left CV seal #38342-81X01 and #38342-81x00
input seal and the gear selector seal
4. shims
5. UDP: Replace the front oil seal, part #13510-31U00


Peace
The only thing that I can see that is missing is the "grey goop" sealant. I use "Permatex Ultra Grey"

I would not reccommend using clear or black silicone. Some synthetic gear oil slowly eats it! (GM actually had a recall on this!)

Some advice ond the shims. Don't rush the job. Once the tranny is out and you have measured the free play, go to the look up table in the shop manual and order your shims then.

This will add a few days on to the total time, but you don't waste any money on shims you don't need. (like I did!)


Good Luck!
Old Mar 1, 2002 | 07:28 AM
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Yes good point with the Ultra Grey. You'll notice on the packaging with the ultra gray its OEM equv. for alot of the japanese makes. I'm running Amsoil synthetic, with the ultra gray, and its been maybe 1000 miles and a month and a half, and no leaks whatsoever.
Old Mar 1, 2002 | 07:42 AM
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good info here.
Old Mar 1, 2002 | 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by ericdwong
I also had my internals cryogencially tempered to make them stronger.
is this a joke? if not how do i do that? hehe
Old Aug 22, 2002 | 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by Prodeje79


is this a joke? if not how do i do that? hehe
absolutely serious. you just gotta have friends

eric
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