lower a arm brace
lower a arm brace
Why isn't there one available? The sentras and 200sx's have them. They're by Nu-Tech (also spelled N-Tech, N-Tec, Nu-Tec, etc). http://www.n-tech.net/index.cfm
Here's how it works. You know how there's fstb to keep the tops of the struts from moving/flexing? Well, nothing's really holding the bottoms either. That's where the brace comes in. Do a search on the web and you'll see pics like http://www.sentra.net/solm/april01/ntec.shtml
There is a company that's thinking about doing them for the 1st and 2nd gen Altimas, which have identical setup as 3rd gen Maximas. I've already reserved one for my gf's 93 Altima that's got everything including rstb (oh yeah, if u guys want a rstb, lemme know...I'll see what I can do).
Anyways, anybody wanna prototype a control arm brace?
Jay
Here's how it works. You know how there's fstb to keep the tops of the struts from moving/flexing? Well, nothing's really holding the bottoms either. That's where the brace comes in. Do a search on the web and you'll see pics like http://www.sentra.net/solm/april01/ntec.shtml
There is a company that's thinking about doing them for the 1st and 2nd gen Altimas, which have identical setup as 3rd gen Maximas. I've already reserved one for my gf's 93 Altima that's got everything including rstb (oh yeah, if u guys want a rstb, lemme know...I'll see what I can do).
Anyways, anybody wanna prototype a control arm brace?
Jay
Originally posted by Maximamike
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I also wonder if the altima brace will fit the max...? Well, since I got both cars, I mind as well fit-test it.
yeah, I agree...rstb doesn't make a diff. Though the person selling the control arm brace swears it does. I have it cuz i prototyped it and got it free. makes a nice clothes hanger rod, but that's about it. I'll have pics next weekend.
Jae
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No, the anti-roll bar in the front serves a completely different purpose than what a lower control arm brace would. The FSB simply anchors to the front control arm and does not control axial or lateral movement of the control arm.
-Kaleb
-Kaleb
Originally posted by mykizism
what about the front sway bar? that isnt enough to keep the the control arms from moving around to much?
what about the front sway bar? that isnt enough to keep the the control arms from moving around to much?
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Originally posted by kaleb
No, the anti-roll bar in the front serves a completely different purpose than what a lower control arm brace would. The FSB simply anchors to the front control arm and does not control axial or lateral movement of the control arm.
-Kaleb
No, the anti-roll bar in the front serves a completely different purpose than what a lower control arm brace would. The FSB simply anchors to the front control arm and does not control axial or lateral movement of the control arm.
-Kaleb
last time i was working on the control arm's they only seemed that they can move up or down.. so the brace sorta's connect the left and right control arm? making them just a lil bit stiffer?
yes, and that's that i said about the strut towers...no amount of pushing could make them move. but sure enuf, when you're driving, there's some flex in there. adding a fstb makes a noticable diff.
As for the lower control arm, you're forcing the front suspension to keep it's angles. Think of it like a quadralateral without fstb or lower control arm brace (lcab). The tops and bottoms of the quadralateral can be of diff lengths and the angles created can vary to a point where no corner has the same angle as another. Add a fstb and you get a trapezoid. The top has a set length, as do the sides, with the bottom being variable lengths; the corners can all still have diff angles. Add the lcab and you'll have all 4 sides of set lengths, and 2 pairs of identical angles. This's further enhanced by the lcab mounting to the lower engine brace, which lessons the amount of movement the lcab can move.
Does that kinda make sense?
Jae
As for the lower control arm, you're forcing the front suspension to keep it's angles. Think of it like a quadralateral without fstb or lower control arm brace (lcab). The tops and bottoms of the quadralateral can be of diff lengths and the angles created can vary to a point where no corner has the same angle as another. Add a fstb and you get a trapezoid. The top has a set length, as do the sides, with the bottom being variable lengths; the corners can all still have diff angles. Add the lcab and you'll have all 4 sides of set lengths, and 2 pairs of identical angles. This's further enhanced by the lcab mounting to the lower engine brace, which lessons the amount of movement the lcab can move.
Does that kinda make sense?
Jae
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Originally posted by ThurzNite
yes, and that's that i said about the strut towers...no amount of pushing could make them move. but sure enuf, when you're driving, there's some flex in there. adding a fstb makes a noticable diff.
As for the lower control arm, you're forcing the front suspension to keep it's angles. Think of it like a quadralateral without fstb or lower control arm brace (lcab). The tops and bottoms of the quadralateral can be of diff lengths and the angles created can vary to a point where no corner has the same angle as another. Add a fstb and you get a trapezoid. The top has a set length, as do the sides, with the bottom being variable lengths; the corners can all still have diff angles. Add the lcab and you'll have all 4 sides of set lengths, and 2 pairs of identical angles. This's further enhanced by the lcab mounting to the lower engine brace, which lessons the amount of movement the lcab can move.
Does that kinda make sense?
Jae
yes, and that's that i said about the strut towers...no amount of pushing could make them move. but sure enuf, when you're driving, there's some flex in there. adding a fstb makes a noticable diff.
As for the lower control arm, you're forcing the front suspension to keep it's angles. Think of it like a quadralateral without fstb or lower control arm brace (lcab). The tops and bottoms of the quadralateral can be of diff lengths and the angles created can vary to a point where no corner has the same angle as another. Add a fstb and you get a trapezoid. The top has a set length, as do the sides, with the bottom being variable lengths; the corners can all still have diff angles. Add the lcab and you'll have all 4 sides of set lengths, and 2 pairs of identical angles. This's further enhanced by the lcab mounting to the lower engine brace, which lessons the amount of movement the lcab can move.
Does that kinda make sense?
Jae
haha thanks, i get it now
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