Stillen Update: 2002 Headers and front lip
Stillen Update: 2002 Headers and front lip
I called my stillen rep today which I have done atleast once a month since I bought my car. He told me that the headers are currently being made and that they should be available with in 30 days! He said the same goes for the 2002 front lip. This is great news, I hope it holds true.
The header/ down pipe estimated price is $600-700
The header/ down pipe estimated price is $600-700
If you believe the "30 days" statement, then you will probably believe me when I say I built an engine that runs on water
Sorry, but this is Stillen's famous line for something that most likely hasn't even been run thru the CAD yet. I still can't figure out why Stillen decided to do a header setup this go around. I guess they saw the money Comptech is making on the TL/CL-S/TL-S headers.
Dave
Sorry, but this is Stillen's famous line for something that most likely hasn't even been run thru the CAD yet. I still can't figure out why Stillen decided to do a header setup this go around. I guess they saw the money Comptech is making on the TL/CL-S/TL-S headers.Dave
Originally posted by Dave B
If you believe the "30 days" statement, then you will probably believe me when I say I built an engine that runs on water
Sorry, but this is Stillen's famous line for something that most likely hasn't even been run thru the CAD yet. I still can't figure out why Stillen decided to do a header setup this go around. I guess they saw the money Comptech is making on the TL/CL-S/TL-S headers.
Dave
If you believe the "30 days" statement, then you will probably believe me when I say I built an engine that runs on water
Sorry, but this is Stillen's famous line for something that most likely hasn't even been run thru the CAD yet. I still can't figure out why Stillen decided to do a header setup this go around. I guess they saw the money Comptech is making on the TL/CL-S/TL-S headers.Dave
Originally posted by Newman96SE
sweet
stillen told me that headers were in the works in mid december and told me to check back in a month. bah. ill take your word for it emax. im excited now.
sweet
stillen told me that headers were in the works in mid december and told me to check back in a month. bah. ill take your word for it emax. im excited now.
will
Originally posted by emax95
my rep said they just had a meeting with the "new" R&D team and the headers are going to start being designed soon, then he told me to try back in 30 days. So today was about 30 days later and he said the headers are now being made and should be ready in about 30 days.
my rep said they just had a meeting with the "new" R&D team and the headers are going to start being designed soon, then he told me to try back in 30 days. So today was about 30 days later and he said the headers are now being made and should be ready in about 30 days.
Originally posted by WILLSE
i talked to my stillen rep today too he said that there is a new R&D team and things should go into the works soon! there is a meeting for all of them this fri and they should find out more then! i will let u know!
will
i talked to my stillen rep today too he said that there is a new R&D team and things should go into the works soon! there is a meeting for all of them this fri and they should find out more then! i will let u know!
will
Originally posted by WILLSE
i talked to my stillen rep today too he said that there is a new R&D team and things should go into the works soon! there is a meeting for all of them this fri and they should find out more then! i will let u know!
will
i talked to my stillen rep today too he said that there is a new R&D team and things should go into the works soon! there is a meeting for all of them this fri and they should find out more then! i will let u know!
will
Originally posted by emax95
Who is your rep? Mine is Dean(cool guy), hopefully you just talked to a less informed employee
Who is your rep? Mine is Dean(cool guy), hopefully you just talked to a less informed employee
will
Originally posted by rubman
Hope those headers also work on 2K MAxes and 2K1's. Please continue to post any updates taht you get. Thanx for the info.
Hope those headers also work on 2K MAxes and 2K1's. Please continue to post any updates taht you get. Thanx for the info.
Originally posted by emax95
Uhh ohh...
My name is Ethan.
Uhh ohh...
My name is Ethan.
does he give u good prices? we need to compare prices to see who he gives the better one to! haha im serious!will
Originally posted by emax95
They should fit 95-02, the only diffence might be o2 sensor holes which can be modified.
They should fit 95-02, the only diffence might be o2 sensor holes which can be modified.
Originally posted by WILLSE
next time i talk to him ill see if he talks smack about you HAHA!!
does he give u good prices? we need to compare prices to see who he gives the better one to! haha im serious!
will
next time i talk to him ill see if he talks smack about you HAHA!!
does he give u good prices? we need to compare prices to see who he gives the better one to! haha im serious!will
Originally posted by TellschMax02
Any estimation on HP gains from the header?
Is it the header + Y pipe?
Brian
Any estimation on HP gains from the header?
Is it the header + Y pipe?
Brian
Originally posted by emax95
It's going to be the header and Y-Pipe. I would expect to see about 20 FWHP in a 02 max.
It's going to be the header and Y-Pipe. I would expect to see about 20 FWHP in a 02 max.
Re: front lip
Originally posted by Newman96SE
also, did he say when the front lip might be ready?
also, did he say when the front lip might be ready?
BTW 20 FWHP would be great to have, I will dyno my car with the headers.
Any idea on any of the specs? What is it going to made out of...diamter...straight bolt on (no need to custom make o2 sensor plugs...will it work for cali and fed spec...
Sorry for the questions...but anything that makes us go faster I am all for.
It would be nice to see a 40-50fwhp gain with an intake (FC) and this new header setup. Even with the stock cat back...I would pay 700 for it.
Brian
Sorry for the questions...but anything that makes us go faster I am all for.
It would be nice to see a 40-50fwhp gain with an intake (FC) and this new header setup. Even with the stock cat back...I would pay 700 for it.
Brian
I highly doubt that stillen would make the header/y pipe combo for $700... the comptech headers for the v6 accord are pushing $1,200 so i would guesstimate that the price would be def. higher than $1,000 and knowing stillen's reputation of inflating prices (ej: clear lenses $100) prolly end up around $1,500.
Originally posted by 20 MAXIMA 02
I highly doubt that stillen would make the header/y pipe combo for $700... the comptech headers for the v6 accord are pushing $1,200 so i would guesstimate that the price would be def. higher than $1,000 and knowing stillen's reputation of inflating prices (ej: clear lenses $100) prolly end up around $1,500.
I highly doubt that stillen would make the header/y pipe combo for $700... the comptech headers for the v6 accord are pushing $1,200 so i would guesstimate that the price would be def. higher than $1,000 and knowing stillen's reputation of inflating prices (ej: clear lenses $100) prolly end up around $1,500.
Ah since when has the 5th gens so special? 40-50hp at the wheels?? Think again and cut that 40 figure in half.
Originally posted by TellschMax02
It would be nice to see a 40-50fwhp gain with an intake (FC) and this new header setup. Even with the stock cat back...I would pay 700 for it.
Brian
It would be nice to see a 40-50fwhp gain with an intake (FC) and this new header setup. Even with the stock cat back...I would pay 700 for it.
Brian
Originally posted by Newman96SE
then we'll just wait for greg to get it for us. if stillen actually sells it to him that is.
then we'll just wait for greg to get it for us. if stillen actually sells it to him that is.
Originally posted by Jeff92se
Ah since when has the 5th gens so special? 40-50hp at the wheels?? Think again and cut that 40 figure in half.
Ah since when has the 5th gens so special? 40-50hp at the wheels?? Think again and cut that 40 figure in half.
Here is some of my fuzzy math that led me to 40-50.
FC Intake: 10HP Proven
"Y" Pipe: 20-30HP (based off of other Y pipes out there and some improvements for a 2k2 model?? Optimistic yes…reality, probably not.)
Header: 5-10HP just a guess. I remember seeing a site where someone tested an aftermarket header on a max and only got 1 or 2 HP. I can’t imagine Stillen would expect people to pay that much for 1 or 2 more HP...wait a minute, maybe I can imagine that
, but I am hoping it will produce more.Anyways...it is just good to have some options. Hopefully we will have more.
Brian
Originally posted by Jeff92se
Ah since when has the 5th gens so special? 40-50hp at the wheels?? Think again and cut that 40 figure in half.
Ah since when has the 5th gens so special? 40-50hp at the wheels?? Think again and cut that 40 figure in half.
. So I have to diagree with you, 40 FWHP with just bolt on's looks very possible. Can you say 300 NA HP?
Originally posted by emax95
One member here picked up about 30 FWHP with just a intake, RT cat and a HKS muffler
. So I have to diagree with you, 40 FWHP with just bolt on's looks very possible. Can you say 300 NA HP?
One member here picked up about 30 FWHP with just a intake, RT cat and a HKS muffler
. So I have to diagree with you, 40 FWHP with just bolt on's looks very possible. Can you say 300 NA HP?
Wow...that sounds good...
I read that thread. I would like to see some more dynos first. It wasn't as scrutinized as I would have thought.
Originally posted by emax95
One member here picked up about 30 FWHP with just a intake, RT cat and a HKS muffler
. So I have to diagree with you, 40 FWHP with just bolt on's looks very possible. Can you say 300 NA HP?
One member here picked up about 30 FWHP with just a intake, RT cat and a HKS muffler
. So I have to diagree with you, 40 FWHP with just bolt on's looks very possible. Can you say 300 NA HP?
Originally posted by Jeff92se
I read that thread. I would like to see some more dynos first. It wasn't as scrutinized as I would have thought.
I read that thread. I would like to see some more dynos first. It wasn't as scrutinized as I would have thought.
Can't believe people didn't call BS.
Originally posted by IceY2K1
I agree.
Can't believe people didn't call BS.
I agree.
Can't believe people didn't call BS.
Originally posted by Jeff92se
I read that thread. I would like to see some more dynos first. It wasn't as scrutinized as I would have thought.
I read that thread. I would like to see some more dynos first. It wasn't as scrutinized as I would have thought.
Originally posted by 20 MAXIMA 02
Even if greg becomes a stillen dealer, he cant lower the prices below what stillen says is the lowest possible price he can sell it for.
Even if greg becomes a stillen dealer, he cant lower the prices below what stillen says is the lowest possible price he can sell it for.
Originally posted by Newman96SE
this is greg's business. buying in bulk and passing the savings on to us. unfortunately stillen hates custommaxima and refuses to sell to him. i dont know the legalities for sure but i disagree with "he cant lower the prices below what stillen says is the lowest possible price he can sell it for" because greg told me once that "i had a truck load of stillen body kits on its way to my house and someone at stillen got word that they were heading to me and called the truck and told the driver to turn around. they think i sell their stuff for too cheap" from that i gathered that he COULD sell it for any price he wanted if he could just actually get the merchandise to sell.
this is greg's business. buying in bulk and passing the savings on to us. unfortunately stillen hates custommaxima and refuses to sell to him. i dont know the legalities for sure but i disagree with "he cant lower the prices below what stillen says is the lowest possible price he can sell it for" because greg told me once that "i had a truck load of stillen body kits on its way to my house and someone at stillen got word that they were heading to me and called the truck and told the driver to turn around. they think i sell their stuff for too cheap" from that i gathered that he COULD sell it for any price he wanted if he could just actually get the merchandise to sell.
Stillen FORCES it's dealers to sell at MSRP and if a dealer tries to sell it cheaper, Stillen doesn't sell them parts anymore. Therefore, Greg can't sell at whatever price he wants unless he wants to sell at MSRP or NOT sell anything.
Originally posted by TellschMax02
Probably right.
Here is some of my fuzzy math that led me to 40-50.
FC Intake: 10HP Proven
"Y" Pipe: 20-30HP (based off of other Y pipes out there and some improvements for a 2k2 model?? Optimistic yes…reality, probably not.)
Header: 5-10HP just a guess. I remember seeing a site where someone tested an aftermarket header on a max and only got 1 or 2 HP. I can’t imagine Stillen would expect people to pay that much for 1 or 2 more HP...wait a minute, maybe I can imagine that
, but I am hoping it will produce more.
Anyways...it is just good to have some options. Hopefully we will have more.
Brian
Probably right.
Here is some of my fuzzy math that led me to 40-50.
FC Intake: 10HP Proven
"Y" Pipe: 20-30HP (based off of other Y pipes out there and some improvements for a 2k2 model?? Optimistic yes…reality, probably not.)
Header: 5-10HP just a guess. I remember seeing a site where someone tested an aftermarket header on a max and only got 1 or 2 HP. I can’t imagine Stillen would expect people to pay that much for 1 or 2 more HP...wait a minute, maybe I can imagine that
, but I am hoping it will produce more.Anyways...it is just good to have some options. Hopefully we will have more.
Brian
Originally posted by IceY2K1
Ugggh. That's the SAME thing.
Stillen FORCES it's dealers to sell at MSRP and if a dealer tries to sell it cheaper, Stillen doesn't sell them parts anymore. Therefore, Greg can't sell at whatever price he wants unless he wants to sell at MSRP or NOT sell anything.
Ugggh. That's the SAME thing.
Stillen FORCES it's dealers to sell at MSRP and if a dealer tries to sell it cheaper, Stillen doesn't sell them parts anymore. Therefore, Greg can't sell at whatever price he wants unless he wants to sell at MSRP or NOT sell anything.




