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Old May 5, 2002 | 06:29 PM
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What happen to the 02 Bose stereo system in my 02??

I just purchased a new 02 GLE Maxima to replace my 99 Maxim and noticed lots of bass but very little high end. I turned the SVC off and this helped a little.

When I adjust the treble from 0 to +5 I notice very little difference in the high end. I always was impressed by the Bose systems in my other Maximas, although the 02 is some what of a disappointment. Does anyone have any ideas or noticed the same problem?
Old May 5, 2002 | 07:25 PM
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Re: What happen to the 02 Bose stereo system in my 02??

Originally posted by jordan1
I just purchased a new 02 GLE Maxima to replace my 99 Maxim and noticed lots of bass but very little high end. I turned the SVC off and this helped a little.

When I adjust the treble from 0 to +5 I notice very little difference in the high end. I always was impressed by the Bose systems in my other Maximas, although the 02 is some what of a disappointment. Does anyone have any ideas or noticed the same problem?
hey man, how's it going - this is my first maxima, and i've always heard that maxima's are known for their bose speakers, and these don't seem as impressive as my friends bose speakers in his '98..for some reason..if you find a solution pls. let me know..thankz..

o yea, what's SVC??????
I also own a '02 GLE....

Later man
Old May 5, 2002 | 07:28 PM
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i have all bose in my home entertainment sys. i blew my bose sub, which sounded crappy anyway. the worst $1000 option in my opinion. i ripped the whole sys out
Old May 5, 2002 | 07:38 PM
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Re: What happen to the 02 Bose stereo system in my 02??

yeah this has been brought up before--appearently the 4th Gen Bose systems were A LOT nicer than the 5th Gen Bose systems--I knew this when I bought my max, so 5 days after it was delivered I had the Bose violently ripped from its spot in my dash and thrown into my closet until it sold a few weeks ago--in case you haven't noticed, I'm not a big fan of Bose--it's ok for some, I just think it's a waste of money IMHO
Old May 5, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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This is probably due to the fact that the 4th gen used a separate amp on each of its speakers. Now they are doing it like an aftermarket style where they have one amp running the whole inside except the sub which has its own sub.

Honestly, I hate it cause I am more into sound. I used to own $100,000 of pro audio equipment back when we was DJing. So I know what real stuff is.

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Old May 5, 2002 | 11:24 PM
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Bose = Biggest piece of Crap for $1000 you can buy. I had no choice, I wanted navi, so I had to get the Bose..Thats the way Nissan bundles the options.. ...This applies to CAR Bose systems, the one in my home is awesome !
Old May 6, 2002 | 06:21 AM
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The 4th generation Bose was a complete pain in the a** to work with when you blew something. You couldn't just replace a set of speakers with aftermarket ones- You had to buy this $80 adapter. Same with the head unit and sub. And if you wanted to add on an aftermarket subwoofer to the Bose......that was a nightmare also.

Be glad they got rid of the separate amp system they had in the 4th gen. I'll take the compromised sound of one amp any day of the week. At least I can add a sub and change out the mids without buying a new deck.....

They might have come out with some new adapter for it. I'm speaking from my 3 year stint as a car stereo sales rep from 1994-1997.
Old May 6, 2002 | 06:39 AM
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I hate Bose and refuse to own anything made by them. I am very big into home theater and I have compared a lot of equipment in the market. Bose is nothing more than a marketing scam. Hate to say it but the bose systems in every car are not any better than stock. They are designed differently and add a sub (more of a 5th speaker than a real subwoofer) and then they plaster their name all over the place and jack the price up. Does anyone know what the cost difference is between stock and bose? Whatever it is you can easily apply that money towards replacing the stock equipment with better components and it will sound so much better than any bose system.
Old May 6, 2002 | 07:10 AM
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ok ok we get it, you hate the bose...

But you should still be able the tell if the bass is up or down. Mostly by increased distortion and rattles, but you will be changing something.

Somebody already mentioned that their '02 sub had problems. There may be an issue with grounding or it could be out of phase. Both have happened with brand new cars.

Also, it seems to me that as Clarion has plummeted in reliablility, so has the bose HU's they mfg. Its possible that there is a problem in the HU.

That aside, the 5th gen bose *should* should great for a factory system at moderate levels. If not, there's a problem. You might have to listen to other '02 on the lot to get the dealer to believe you. BTW, there's a national backorder on replacement Bose headunits, so *something* must be up.

I mean, if you dont want to worry about theft and want something decent, the bose is fine. I guess I've already my $4k+ systems, and now I'd rather not have tinitus as I grow older. I dont need 130+db on my drive to work. (and yes, I know that aftermarket is better at any volume, I'm just saying the devil himself didnt spawn the bose system)
Old May 6, 2002 | 03:17 PM
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is there anything i could do to my sound system to make it seem a littleetter, maybe mess around with the settings or something????? when i have the bass all the way up, it doesn't sound quite right for BOSE.....someone pls. let me know thankz....
Old May 15, 2002 | 05:55 PM
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Just received feedback from Bose:

Hello Jordan,

You are correct on the impedences of the system, however these impedance?s
were considered in the design of the system.

Thank you for choosing Bose Corporation.

Patty Bolack
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jordan Gershon
Sent: 05/13/2002 21:16:24
To: support
Subject: RE: Automotive

Patty,

I just found out that all of the speakers on the 02 Maxima are 1 ohm
speakers but the tweeters are 4 ohm! This could be the reason for the lack
of high output. Could you please verify my information and provide me with
the ohms for each of the 6 speakers.

Thank you,

Jordan Gershon
Old May 15, 2002 | 06:07 PM
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slightly OT, but Jordan... what's with the special rank?
Old May 16, 2002 | 08:07 AM
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Tweeters naturally have a higher resistance than their lower frequency counterparts. The higher resistance of the tweeter, compared to the rest of the Bose speakers, is normal. The problem must lie elsewhere. When you do these sound tests, do you use the radio? The best way to test is using good quality CDs, and leave the tone controls flat at 12 o'clock.

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Old Jun 29, 2002 | 01:44 PM
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REPLACE THOSE TWEETERS

Anyone with a 2k2 Bose stereo is missing out by not replacing the horrible Clarion stock tweeters in the pillar! Again, this is my 4th Maxima and I have always been impressed with the stereo until I purchased my 2k2 GLE.

I really felt all along that the tweeters were not putting out enough sound, so I replaced the stock 1/2" tweeters with a pair of Polk 1" EX3500 tweeters. WOW, what a difference $99 and 15 minutes of time makes. Finally, I have my Bose system that I am used to listening to!

Because the housing is larger than the Clarions, I mounted the speakers to the frame with metal bonding hot glue.

I want to thank everyone for their comments and I hope this helps.
Now I can really enjoy my new Maxima!
Old Jun 29, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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Yes, I too was disappointed with the sound. The best stock system I've had in a car was my '97 Sebring JXi Convertable. It had amazing sound, rock solid bass and that is unusual in a convertable. Even my 300M which should have had a better sound was not as goos as the Sebring. They both had an Infinity system with sub. The Sebring was 150watt with 7 speakers, the 300M was 200watt 11 speakers.

I had hoped this would be better but as you all know, it is not bad just not really good either.
Old Jun 29, 2002 | 07:52 PM
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Re: REPLACE THOSE TWEETERS

Originally posted by jordan1

I really felt all along that the tweeters were not putting out enough sound, so I replaced the stock 1/2" tweeters with a pair of Polk 1" EX3500 tweeters. WOW, what a difference $99 and 15 minutes of time makes. Finally, I have my Bose system that I am used to listening to!

Because the housing is larger than the Clarions, I mounted the speakers to the frame with metal bonding hot glue.

I want to thank everyone for their comments and I hope this helps.
Now I can really enjoy my new Maxima!
I did the same but used Panasonic tweeters for $59. Made a world of difference, too.
Old Jul 1, 2002 | 04:01 AM
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Re: What happen to the 02 Bose stereo system in my 02??

Originally posted by jordan1
When I adjust the treble from 0 to +5 I notice very little difference in the high end. I always was impressed by the Bose systems in my other Maximas, although the 02 is some what of a disappointment.
Same thing in my 2002.. no highs. Very disappointing, compared to my 93 and 00 Boses which sounded fine.

To those who have replaced tweeters:
Did you keep the same OHM rating?
Did any particular brand fit perfectly?

Thanks
Old Jul 1, 2002 | 05:50 AM
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Re: Re: What happen to the 02 Bose stereo system in my 02??

Originally posted by pvaudo


Same thing in my 2002.. no highs. Very disappointing, compared to my 93 and 00 Boses which sounded fine.

To those who have replaced tweeters:
Did you keep the same OHM rating?
Did any particular brand fit perfectly?

Thanks
Yes, I kept the same ohm rating and the Panasonics fit perfectly. They just used a hot glue gun to fasten them into place.

The main reason the stock tweeters sound so bad is because they are a "softcone" tweeter. Just make sure you replace them with a "hardcone" tweeter.
Old Jul 1, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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Re: Re: Re: What happen to the 02 Bose stereo system in my 02??

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Yes, I kept the same ohm rating and the Panasonics fit perfectly. They just used a hot glue gun to fasten them into place.

The main reason the stock tweeters sound so bad is because they are a "softcone" tweeter. Just make sure you replace them with a "hardcone" tweeter.
how do we know if it's "hardcone" or "softcone?"

does it say on the box?

Old Jul 1, 2002 | 11:58 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: What happen to the 02 Bose stereo system in my 02??

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how do we know if it's "hardcone" or "softcone?"

does it say on the box?

I'm probably not calling them by their correct name.

The "softcone" ones that are stock on the system are made out of the soft "paperlike" material that most speakers are made out of. Its impossible to get crisp highs from these.

The "hardcone" tweeters have a metal or plastic-like cone (thats usually silver in color). They produce much crisper highs.

Take the pillar trim off and you should be able to see what the stock ones are made out of. My 2k sounded much better that my 2k2 does so they may have just changed the type of tweeters that they used.
Old Jul 1, 2002 | 12:14 PM
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Ok - this was asked very early on in this thread - what exactly is 'SVC' - There's off, high, mid, and low levels, can anyone explain?
Old Jul 1, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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Taken from the manual page 4-16

"This vehicle has Speed sensitive Control
Volume (SCV) for audio (type B only). The
audio volume changes as the driving speed
changes."


Basically, as you go faster and slower the system automatically changes the radio volume up and down (the basis being that higher speeds mean more road noise so for you to hear the radio as well, the volume would need to be higher). The settings are to adjust how much or how little the volume will change or to turn it off completely.
Old Jul 1, 2002 | 01:55 PM
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i have a 2k2 se without bose, if i install some polks oe jl tweets with the factory hu, will it sound better and be worth doing it now? or just wait till i amplify the whole mids and highs?
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