Hey guys, this is yours truly Dr.Omed.HID#4. Remember way back when, when we all first intalled the HID's (well actually by my count I was the FOURTH to install the HID's hence the name) I never got around to installing my HIGH BEAMS. Well, I bought some 9005's from midnightmadness and finally installed the lights and ran the inline fuse etc.

I DO get the blinking high beam indicator. BUT WHEN I TURNED THE CAR OFF LEFT THE GARAGE AND CAME BACK AN HOUR LATER, MY FOG LIGHTS WERE ON!!!?

Did you guys know that this is a by product of the the 2K2 light swap? Do you guys have the same problem? Did I wire something wrong? I have to now manually turn the fogs off EACH time? ThAT means at valet, etc. I have to instruct them to turn off the lights each time?

Any input would be great, and the thread title was just a joke.

Dr.Omed.HID#4.

 

I know this one.. I bet you wired the High beam ground on the right side back into the original shared Hi/lo ground, no?

that makes a loop. the indicator light is part of that circuit and you will complete the circuit if you have direct battery power and ground from the harness. Simply ground to the body on the right side and you'll be ok, of course that means you need a relay for power. Do all that on the left side and run it over the radiator (there are some other wires there already you can follow the path of).

As far as the fogs, if you have rewired fogs, then thats the possible cause too.

 

damn you know your $hit

 

Thanks Timeeeeh!

I agree with TimW's analysis. I still have mine withOUT the relays and the High beam indicator flashes even if the car is off. It's not a big drain on the battery, since my car sits for 4+ weeks at a time without a problem starting.

As far as the fogs go, I don't believe mine does that, but I will try to remember to check that out. I have the foglight rewire(posted in "How To" sticky) and therefore the ONLY way my fogs come on is if the running lamps are on, but they still turn off with the high beams. I thought the Smart Entrance Control Unit would turn them off after awhile anyways. Again, I'll see what I can find.

 

I have this same problem.

 

the left side wont cause this issue. So, I use the left side to power the relay and turn on left and right highs. Sucks because there is alot less space on the left side, but thats where the power is, so it works out better I guess...

 

So if you have high beams set to "on" and you turn off the car, the fog lights will turn on by themselves later? Am I reading this correctly?

 

that would mean a new light stalk. maybe he just got some bleed thru from reverse powering the switch.

Oddly, when wired this way, the highs are in series, so the voltage will be pretty low going back thru the light switch. I would think it would be too low to cook anything permanently. I had mine wired this way for about 5 mins I freaked out and pulled the fuse until I could track it down.

 

Y2KevSe is having the same problem!!

At least Im not alone. And the fix in this thread is ONLY for the faint blinking right? That's what I thought at least. Did we come to a conclusion on the fog lights yet? Glad to see people are interested in this topic and finding an appropriate fix. Actually very surprised noone brought this up yet.

As far as all the wiring, Im pretty sure I did everthing according to Alex's specs. (he didnt and neither did I, wire to fix the faint blinking of the High Beam Indicator) Do you guys think that if we wire to fix the high beam indicator that the fog light issue wil go away?

Thanks.

Dr.Omed.HID#4.

P.S. Where's Dixit in all this?

 

Did you rewire the fog lights? How about you Kev?

I don't believe the two are related, so if you do the "relay install" to fix the hi beam indicator blinking, it shouldn't affect the fog lights, but I'm not 100% positive. It's been awhile, since I looked at my schmatic. However, I was thinking about installing the relays this weekend or next, but I've said that before and I usually get lazy and say it's not worth the hassle.

 

if you have the high beam grounded into the harness (like the lights were originally) on the right side, you have a problem. simple as that. You can do whatever you want on the left side. Doesnt matter how you do it. I'm 99% that loop is causing your problems. You may have toasted the light stalk. Not a huge deal, not horribly expensive and easy to get to but a hassle nonetheless. All the traces on that switch are fairly close.. wouldnt be hard to do. You are back feeding the circuit anyway. Its only because its so low voltage that it doesnt go poof right off.

 

Are you saying this to me?

The faint flickering is from the combo switch providing a slight resistance to ground even though it's supposedly open. That's at least my best explanation without tearing it appart.

I wouldn't think it was "back feeding the circuit", but I could be wrong.

 

So what is new...!

 

Ya, ya.

Hopefully, I can get around to installing the headlamp packs before I head out of town this Friday.

When I come back on Monday I should have a few mods finished finally. Again that's if I don't get lazy and actually enjoy loafing on my minivacation.


Anything new Jon? Any future mods? JIC coilovers? Street scene grille?

 

not directed at you Ice. but since you are here The faint light being on is not a gnd problem, its a power problem.

the high beam indicator is not constantly powered with switched ground. Its switched ground and switched power as I recall with the schematic. I think you are supplying power to the circuit, not ground. Gnd + Gnd wouldnt make the light come on

I say back feeding because obviously there is no diode in the loop or the light wouldnt be on.

Either way, if its as you say, then you are having leakage in the switch, it will burn up in time.

neither is really a good condition.

 

I would have to kill you if I told ya.

 

On mine, the HIGH beam does not use switched power, only switched ground. I run from the battery to the high beam bulb to the H4 switched ground.

So the only possibility of a path to ground is the combo switch. It's supposed to be open, but it has internal resistance and multiple paths to ground, so somehow it's being connected with some other switch path in the combo switch. At least that's the only reason I can figure why it's blinking and not constantly on, but once you turn on the low beams it stops. Maybe it's from the SECU? I don't know. Either way, your right it's not good for the combo switch.

 

exactly.. this is what I'm saying. If you look at the FSM, you'll see the indicator lamp in the right side circuit.

I cant remember why they did this.

 

Ok, I believe ya.

I'm just a little rusty. Hopefully, this weekend I'll get around to at least fixing the passenger side.

 

If I know you, you'll rewire the indicator light and combo switch instead

 

I already was thinking about messing with the traces in the combo switch to revers the AUTO and ON position, just maybe.

 

I had the problem the very first time when I installed them.... Follow Tim's advice....

 

What problem are you referring to? It looks like my FOGLIGHT problem is now turned into FIXING THE FAINT HIGH BEAM INDICATOR BLINKING ISSUE. Anyways. If everyone could just state which problem they have fixed, it would be a big help.

Thanks.

Dr.Omed.HID#4.

 

I dont think they arent exactly separate issues, but I could be wrong.

You need to rewire your highs so that the ground doesnt go back to the harness. In my case, I have the highs AND HIDs grounded to the body. my HIDs are like yours but on the highs, I got a Nissan relay (not that that matters) and ran a fused wire to the relay, then from there to both + of the highs. The relay is activated by the 12v+ on the harness.

If that rewire doesnt clear that up, then something has gone wrong in your combo switch... most likely because of the bleed thru.

 

Can we get a schematic for the blinking high beam fix with pics and a definition of what "left side" "right side" means. Is that passengar side, drivers side, or is it looking at the car left side right side etc.

and then the talk about a relay, WITH an inline fuse....

please advise/clarify etc.

Peace.

Dr.Omed.HID#4.

 

Check my website if you need some more info, but it's mainly on the install withOUT the relays, but still helpful.

Adding a relay to the PASSENGER side will fix the blinking:


If you want to be ABSOLUTELY safe also do the DRIVER side(ignore that it says passenger, just a typo):

 

the ground doesnt to anything on my right side (hi & hid is grounded to the body). I just used one beefy relay and a 15amp fuse to power both high beams (from the left). its really much easier that way. running the power over to the pass side is really really easy...

 

I agree.

 

u need to put in themz relayz fooo.