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Old Nov 30, 2000 | 01:56 PM
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Ive read in other threads that the 95 is faster than the 97. First is this true and second what is the reason for this? Is it something that i change on my 97

[Edited by CoOlKidS1979 on 11-30-2000 at 04:34 PM]
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 02:20 PM
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Also 15" wheels and smaller tires give better acceleration.
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 03:01 PM
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Oh?

Well I dont know for sure but I bet when R&T tested the 97-99's they had an SE with 16's -vs the 95-96's with 15's.
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by MardiGrasMax
Also 15" wheels and smaller tires give better acceleration.

The tires are the same diameter. And the wider tires of the '97 SE would give better traction for better acceleration times.
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 04:31 PM
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**SCREAMS!!**

hehe... sorry... just sick of this question.

Why?
- Lighter-- slightly.
- Smaller wheels (same rolling diameter though) contribute to lighter weight.
- Less emissions (supposedly)
- More agressive timing (more power)

I thought all 95+ Maximas had OBDII?

GENERALLY 95's seem to be faster than 96~99's. However, at least a handful of `96+'s are just as fast as the fastest 95's.
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by brianw
thought all 95+ Maximas had OBDII?


OBDII started with the '96 Maximas; '95s don't have it.
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by Micah95GLE
OBDII started with the '96 Maximas; '95s don't have it. [/I]
Chilton and Haynes both say that '95 Maximas are OBD-2 compliant. Of course, they aren't always right...
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 05:32 PM
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I have 2 maximas...on eis a 2000 se and the other is a 95 gle....my 95 is fater off the line. Once off the line the 2000 kicks.
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Micah95GLE
Originally posted by MardiGrasMax
Also 15" wheels and smaller tires give better acceleration.

The tires are the same diameter. And the wider tires of the '97 SE would give better traction for better acceleration times.
NOT REALLY!!!

The 95-96se's had 215/60-15's (SE's?) (or 205/65-15's (GXE's)) and the 97-99se's had 215/55-16's?

The with of the tires are the same.

As far as diameter, tire make/model differences aside, the 97-99 stock tires would be 2.8% larger than the 215/60-15's. That would give you a lower final drive ratio wich is worse for acceleration. But 2.8% is insignificant, well according to motor trend, the stock new 95se ran 6.7sec 0-60mph and the stock new 97 ran 7.1sec 0-60mph. The 95 was only 5.64% faster in 0-60mph then the 97. I dont know this for sure but I bet the 95se rims/tires weighed a little less than the 97-99's, that would also aid acceleration.

So I'm quite sure some of the difference is due to the tire/rim size issue as well as the other issues also.

Wider tires do give better acceleration out of the hole, but they create more rolling resistance on the other end of the track. That point though, is a tough one to debate. I'm probably going with 245's so I'll agree with you that "wider is better", at least in 0-60 and street races. But they are are also more heavy, so who knows?

[Edited by MardiGrasMax on 11-30-2000 at 07:47 PM]
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 06:10 PM
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Hey Mardi,

The 95SE did 0-60 in 6.6 not 6.7,that 1 10th of a sec makes it quicker then the 2K Max so it is a very importent to me haha.
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 06:21 PM
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Re: Hey Mardi,

Originally posted by emax95
The 95SE did 0-60 in 6.6 not 6.7,that 1 10th of a sec makes it quicker then the 2K Max so it is a very importent to me haha.
But in the Max FAQ the 95's 6.6 from 8/95 is Nissan data, not independent tests, and the other 6.6 from 1/96 was after 40k miles, after the motor had loosend up.

Dam I'm a geek!
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 06:31 PM
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I have the original Motor Trend in front of me,

were they tested the 95 Max and it says 0-60 is 6.6 and the 1/4 is 15.2 ,I am pretty sure MT did that test on there own,I recal car and driver getting 0-60 in 6.7 and then retested it and it did it in 6.6 maybe your thinking of that test?
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 06:41 PM
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I was going by Max FAQ

Are you sure thats the test of the new 95 and not the 40k long term wrap up?
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 06:46 PM
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Ja!!!!!!!! I'm blind too

I read the FAQ wrong, it says that the 6.6 that MT got is what Nissan qoutes.
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 06:49 PM
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The '95 was new and was tested in 7/95. Read my post about MT 0-60 times in the General Forum.
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 07:25 PM
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Re: I have the original Motor Trend in front of me,

Originally posted by emax95
were they tested the 95 Max and it says 0-60 is 6.6 and the 1/4 is 15.2 ,I am pretty sure MT did that test on there own,I recal car and driver getting 0-60 in 6.7 and then retested it and it did it in 6.6 maybe your thinking of that test?
wtf!!!
are u guys JOKING???

95 se 6.6?? or 6.7!!
faster than 2k max?

are we on crack?.. if thats true i LUVV my max then hehe

too bad my max has accerlation problems now
cant speed up properlly.. poor me

have to fix it


btw what is obd1? and obdII?
Old Nov 30, 2000 | 07:32 PM
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Re: Re: I have the original Motor Trend in front of me,


wtf!!!
are u guys JOKING???

95 se 6.6?? or 6.7!!
faster than 2k max?

are we on crack?.. if thats true i LUVV my max then hehe

too bad my max has accerlation problems now
cant speed up properlly.. poor me

have to fix it


btw what is obd1? and obdII?
Nope no joke! Thats as tested by the car mags check out this sight http://web2.airmail.net/scutchen/max_faq/ and look under "history", "stock performance".

OBD stands for "on board diagnostic". 1 & 2 are the versions. Its a part of the emissions controlls diagnostic system.
Old Dec 1, 2000 | 10:24 AM
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so what u saying is that

i bet 6.7 is manual

wahtabout 95 auto?

is 2k max 7.0?
how can the new max be slower? if that's true then i can kill a 2k max?

and how can the obd1 be faster than obd2?
why would they make the car worse

Old Dec 1, 2000 | 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by IcY pRayr
... how can the new max be slower?
The 5Gen Maxima is longer and heavier than 4Gen. In addition, some people say the 190hp of the 4Gen is understated, and the 222hp of the 5Gen is all at the "top end" and less useful for acceleration than you might imagine.

Originally posted by IcY pRayr
... and how can the obd1 be faster than obd2?
why would they make the car worse
That depends on your definition of "worse". The OBD-2 cars run cleaner and have superior self-diagnostic capabilities. I'd say they are better. It's a matter of priorities. Anyway, it's not worth debating since OBD-2 is legally required on all cars.
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