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Old May 25, 2002 | 02:44 AM
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I'm interested on a N02 setup for my 95 5spd. Which kits did you guys go with , and why? There are many different brands and im stuck on which kit to go with. I did a lot of research and am stuck as to which one to choose, dry or wet. Do you guys have any probs??? What do you guys recomment and which kits don't you. List your setup please. All imput would be appreciated. THANKS
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It's N2O...
Old May 25, 2002 | 10:52 PM
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It's N2O...
maybe he was looking for nitrogen dioxide.
Old May 27, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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seriously guys, i need help, im getting a kit in a week and i wanna make sure i have no regrets, im leaing towards the nitrous express kit, but im still not sure. Please help!
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seriously guys, i need help, im getting a kit in a week and i wanna make sure i have no regrets, im leaing towards the nitrous express kit, but im still not sure. Please help!
You can't go wrong with NX. I am running a NOS kit but hopefully not for long. My .02
Old May 27, 2002 | 05:36 PM
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Are you doing the install yourself? If it's a speed shop, then go with whichever brand they have the most experience with. NOS's kit is cheaper because it doesn't come with all the accessories. If you get NX with their Generation X package, it comes with most accessories. I would just stay away from Zex.

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seriously guys, i need help, im getting a kit in a week and i wanna make sure i have no regrets, im leaing towards the nitrous express kit, but im still not sure. Please help!
Old May 28, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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NX is the nitrous express kit, right??? and is this kit ONLY for the max, or could it be moved to fit another car??
Old May 28, 2002 | 03:27 PM
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NX is the nitrous express kit, right??? and is this kit ONLY for the max, or could it be moved to fit another car??
Read the link.
Old Jun 5, 2002 | 11:26 PM
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 09:36 PM
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The 1st person who posted to answer your question, answered it by posting a LINK (the address in green). Go there and read and you will find most if not all the answers you want. If you go there and don't find your answer, then post and ask.
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 12:25 PM
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i did....but no one really gave me their opinion on their setup or whatever...what i want to know what is the best setup as far as reliability and performance...im looking for a dry setup for now...thanks
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If it's dry you want, just go with NOS. Get their basic kit and add more accessories as you understand more about how everything works. Nitrous is not bolt on and forget about it type of performance mod. Don't do it unless you have a basic knowledge on cars.

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i did....but no one really gave me their opinion on their setup or whatever...what i want to know what is the best setup as far as reliability and performance...im looking for a dry setup for now...thanks
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Originally posted by apocnmbr1
i did....but no one really gave me their opinion on their setup or whatever...what i want to know what is the best setup as far as reliability and performance...im looking for a dry setup for now...thanks
NX only makes wet kits..durability, you will go back and forth with that one, the truth is that nitrous is safe as long its installed properly and you dont go crazy with the size of jet...wet or dry its a matter of taste.......I personally got the NX with all the goodies
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Originally posted by apocnmbr1
i did....but no one really gave me their opinion on their setup or whatever...what i want to know what is the best setup as far as reliability and performance...im looking for a dry setup for now...thanks
If you are asking which system, wet or dry, is better and why, the answer would depend on how high you wanna go. For "normal" setups (100 shot and below), my opinion would be dry. Reason being is that with a dry system you don't have too much tweaking to make it work reasonably good. On dry, you also don't absolutely have to have some of the things that the wet requires. To start, the dry is better to start off with and go up to probably where 95% of the people want to go.
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i have a great knowledge about cars, but the thing is there are different companies out there, and its kinda hard to choose cause of lack of experience, but i always thought "wet" was safer cause if im correct distribute the NOS evenly...right?? the more i hear about the subject, the more i see people using the "dry" setup...wich is supposedly reliable...im not looking for more than a 100 shot. Also if someone could show me how exactly the system works, I mean i know in a dry setup, that it goes through the intake, but where does the "t" thing come in, and if most systems are computer controlled, i mean im a 5spd., and i was thinking once i get my foot off the gas, does the NOS continue flowing??? I mean how is it released too....by a button or...I DUNNO...if someone could explain a but, and i have searched, that would be help me out a bit to increase my understanding on this so I can hurry up and buy this before i spend all my money thanks in advance.
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Originally posted by apocnmbr1
i have a great knowledge about cars, but the thing is there are different companies out there, and its kinda hard to choose cause of lack of experience, but i always thought "wet" was safer cause if im correct distribute the NOS evenly...right?? the more i hear about the subject, the more i see people using the "dry" setup...wich is supposedly reliable...im not looking for more than a 100 shot. Also if someone could show me how exactly the system works, I mean i know in a dry setup, that it goes through the intake, but where does the "t" thing come in, and if most systems are computer controlled, i mean im a 5spd., and i was thinking once i get my foot off the gas, does the NOS continue flowing??? I mean how is it released too....by a button or...I DUNNO...if someone could explain a but, and i have searched, that would be help me out a bit to increase my understanding on this so I can hurry up and buy this before i spend all my money thanks in advance.
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I am just going to install my wet NX kit today and take the NOS out but here are my comments on what I see so far.

I believe the NX setup is just as simple and easy as NOS.
You require less additional parts to get the higher HP setups. The fuel pressure is not boosted in a wet setup so you could probably get by with the stock fuel pump at higher HP settings than with NOS and you certainly don't need an aftermarket FPR which is required in a lot of cases with NOS. That is one less thing to go wrong not having to ensure that the fuel is boosted every time it comes on. I am looking at the wiring diagrams for both and they are virtually identical. The only additional thing required is the T in fuel line and you have to have some sort of T anyway for a gauge and fuel pressure switch.
As far as the puddling goes I still believe that is NOS hype to get people not to buy NX.
NX is such a non-believer they won't even make a dry kit.
Their hardware is far superior to NOS as well, the solenoids are mucho heavy duty and the whole kit spells quality.

Anyway bottom line is that it is just as easy to setup (actually I will reserve that comment until later today when I try it out) and use as the dry kit. The only people that tell you different are the ones using NOS.
Ooops was that lighning raining down on me from the NOS gods? No no I am ok false alarm.
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Ooops was that lighning raining down on me from the NOS gods? No no I am ok false alarm. [/B]
Joo were protected by the NX Gods! I have to agree with joo on the quality issue...I have the NX kit and I also got the auto bottle opener, bottle heater, and the Carbon Fiber Bottle(weighs about 3-4lbs) I haven't had a chance to test since Im also installing the 3.125 pulley & changing plugs but hopefully Ill post a dyno and a timeslip by next week...
Old Jun 8, 2002 | 03:56 PM
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...so a NX kit is what u guys suggest...and thats a wet kit right??? doesnt that cost a lot more?
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Old Jun 16, 2002 | 07:39 PM
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Nope, about the same...i thnk. You should be able to get an NX kit for like $499.
Old Jun 21, 2002 | 12:23 AM
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so the nx kit is we then?? Damn im confused....and this kit u said costs 500 bucks?? what else do i need on top of that for running a 75 shot?? and how much do these things cost..is installation that hard?? or does it have to be done by a pro...i mean i change my oil, tranmiwwion fluid, fuel filter spark plugs by myself...u think i can install a nx kit too?
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Originally posted by apocnmbr1
so the nx kit is we then?? Damn im confused....and this kit u said costs 500 bucks?? what else do i need on top of that for running a 75 shot?? and how much do these things cost..is installation that hard?? or does it have to be done by a pro...i mean i change my oil, tranmiwwion fluid, fuel filter spark plugs by myself...u think i can install a nx kit too?
I've never installed the NX kit. I have installed 3 NOS kits myself. It's pretty straight forward. About 3-4 hours worth of work to do it correctly. Yes, the NX kit is wet. All NX uses is wet. The big difference between wet/dry is wet has an extra solenoid for fuel and you will have an extra fuel jet.

You need to really do the search to get familiar with the setup. In a nutshell here it is: If you run above 60 shot, you will need gauges to keep an eye on the fuel ratio and fuel pressure at least. Maximum shot on stock internals is about 100, maybe 125. You will need 1 step colder plugs for more than 60 shot. Not a bad idea to have the rest of the car in top shape (i.e. tranny, fuel pump, engine, etc.). If you go above 75, you will probably need bigger fuel pump (walbro 255 is a good one). You will also gap the plugs smaller by .04/50hp.

That's just real basics ball park stuff. I personally would recommend to start small, get used to it, then go up from there. Otherwise you could make a big mistake and tear up some really expensive stuff. Most people start out with a 50 shot dry and work their way up from there. I personally think, from all the research I did before I got mine, that the bigger setups and wet setups should be left up to the experienced users. Not because it's bad for the car, I just think it leaves less room for error. You should also choose a system that has tech, parts, and aftermarket support in your area. Go to a couple of speed shops near you and see what they carry. Any system you get will have to be fine tuned anyway to get the best results and therefore the better availability for support the easier it will be on you.

My long .02 cents. BTW, I have ran a dry setup for while now w/o any problems. I am going to upgrade to a direct port wet setup next though just cause I want more HP. Too much is never enough for me...
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thanks....so you think i should start off with a dry setup first? Are there ant diagrams of some sort to see exactly how the setup is on a max? I saw a one, but I didnt really understand it. Also i know the average kit runs around $500. What else do i need besides the kit..i mean does it come with everything i need?? I probably dont wanna go over a 100 shot and im trying to keep the price as minimal as possible, but at the same time have good quality and still be reliable. If you guys could show me what exactly i need, that would help out a lot. Thanks
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Originally posted by apocnmbr1
thanks....so you think i should start off with a dry setup first? Are there ant diagrams of some sort to see exactly how the setup is on a max? I saw a one, but I didnt really understand it. Also i know the average kit runs around $500. What else do i need besides the kit..i mean does it come with everything i need?? I probably dont wanna go over a 100 shot and im trying to keep the price as minimal as possible, but at the same time have good quality and still be reliable. If you guys could show me what exactly i need, that would help out a lot. Thanks
All of the kits come with necessary stuff to run it right out of the box and there are a lot of people running them without buying any further gauges etc. However I would recommend that you read up on the nitrous FAQ's and the accessories that most other folks are using because it is pretty easy to mess up your car with nitrous if you are not careful.

I do think that most problems come from installation goof-ups and not knowing what addons are necessary for higher shots etc. Just getting a pro to install is not enough either because you really have to understand the system to get the most benefit and run it safely.

Try and befriend someone who has nitrous and pick their brain and get them to help you install your system so that you really know what you have and how to operate it.

There are lots of people who think its necessary to have a whole lot of accessories to run nitrous correctly but I run with what I think is required and its as follows:

EGT, Fuel Pressure Gauge, Colder Plugs, Upgraded fuel pump, Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator and a home made bottle heater. There is other stuff you should do as well to the rest of your car, ie trans cooler if auto, etc etc.

Just look up all the threads with Nitrous in them and read there is a great wealth of info on the forum but you have to do a little digging.

Good Luck
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Thanks....ANYONE WITH A JUICED UP MAX IN SOUTHERN CALI???
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You can't go wrong with NX. I am running a NOS kit but hopefully not for long. My .02
dude, what is the name of the color of your car? jime, that is
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