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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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New Car & Driver review. 3.2CL type-s

Has anyone seen this yet?

I was reading it to day and they compared the 3.2 CL type-s to the BMW 330Ci. Of course the BMW won, but what I was concerned about was the 0-60 time of the Acura.

0-60=5.9s
1/4 mile= 14.6
Curb Weight=3481

My question is...This car weighs 257 lbs. more than the Max, and it only has 5 more hp. So what is the deal with the max. The fastest 0-60 that I have ever gotten was 6.46s(G-tech). The 1/4 mile time seems accurate but I am not sure about the 0-60. Does anyone know why this would be.
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 06:22 PM
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Bring it on Baby. I want to prove those numbers on the street, if I can find any CL-S owner that will race !
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 06:25 PM
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Re: New Car & Driver review. 3.2CL type-s

Originally posted by Bulldawg
Has anyone seen this yet?

I was reading it to day and they compared the 3.2 CL type-s to the BMW 330Ci. Of course the BMW won, but what I was concerned about was the 0-60 time of the Acura.

0-60=5.9s
1/4 mile= 14.6
Curb Weight=3481

My question is...This car weighs 257 lbs. more than the Max, and it only has 5 more hp. So what is the deal with the max. The fastest 0-60 that I have ever gotten was 6.46s(G-tech). The 1/4 mile time seems accurate but I am not sure about the 0-60. Does anyone know why this would be.
the test numbers also depends on when and where they perform the test(altitude, weather...)..and also depends on the drivers..
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 07:04 PM
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I don't know about the numbers but the 3.2 CL-Type S is sweet! There is a dropped, silver one on 19' rims that I park next to every day at my school. Don' get me wrong, I love the Max, but I really like how it looks. Are you sure it only has 5 more horses? Those things fly.
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by Neuhowse
I don't know about the numbers but the 3.2 CL-Type S is sweet! There is a dropped, silver one on 19' rims that I park next to every day at my school. Don' get me wrong, I love the Max, but I really like how it looks. Are you sure it only has 5 more horses? Those things fly.
5 more than the 2002 Maxima.
38 more than 2000-2001s. honestly tho, whenever i race one, can't really tell the difference!
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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Re: New Car & Driver review. 3.2CL type-s

BMW .85G
CL-S .86G

BMW got better in braking mostly, thats it.

overall bwm 97
overall acura 96

damn!!!

Originally posted by Bulldawg
Has anyone seen this yet?

I was reading it to day and they compared the 3.2 CL type-s to the BMW 330Ci. Of course the BMW won, but what I was concerned about was the 0-60 time of the Acura.

0-60=5.9s
1/4 mile= 14.6
Curb Weight=3481

My question is...This car weighs 257 lbs. more than the Max, and it only has 5 more hp. So what is the deal with the max. The fastest 0-60 that I have ever gotten was 6.46s(G-tech). The 1/4 mile time seems accurate but I am not sure about the 0-60. Does anyone know why this would be.
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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5 more than the 2002 Maxima.
38 more than 2000-2001s. honestly tho, whenever i race one, can't really tell the difference!
They dyno 220hp stock the 6spd does on the CL-S, and 205~ tq to the wheels.

That = about 15 more hp stock than a stock 6spd Maxima.
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


They dyno 220hp stock the 6spd does on the CL-S, and 205~ tq to the wheels.

That = about 15 more hp stock than a stock 6spd Maxima.
isn't that just weird?
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 07:39 PM
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The only gripes about the new 6spd is the stock tires(talk about traction)! 0-100 and 0-120 on the CL-S is quicker than 330. The CL-S got 10 points for the engine and same as the tranny....BTW I'm a Maxima enthusiast no more newbie bish
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 07:49 PM
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Re: Re: New Car & Driver review. 3.2CL type-s

Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
BMW .85G
CL-S .86G

BMW got better in braking mostly, thats it.

overall bwm 97
overall acura 96

damn!!!

Who cares about the Lateral G's
Compare your BMW slalom speeds to the CL-S slalom speeds.
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 07:53 PM
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Does anybody know what C&D gave the new 02 maxi performance specs 6spd or matic?
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 10:17 PM
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I want to know what was the 0-100, 5-60mph, 0-140 and 30-140mph ETs? 0-60mph times are meaningless, while a 1/4 ET/trap gives a good indication of how the power is being used. I'm betting that given 2 equal drivers both cars would run within 1-1.5 carlengths of each other.

Originally posted by Bulldawg
Has anyone seen this yet?

I was reading it to day and they compared the 3.2 CL type-s to the BMW 330Ci. Of course the BMW won, but what I was concerned about was the 0-60 time of the Acura.

0-60=5.9s
1/4 mile= 14.6
Curb Weight=3481

My question is...This car weighs 257 lbs. more than the Max, and it only has 5 more hp. So what is the deal with the max. The fastest 0-60 that I have ever gotten was 6.46s(G-tech). The 1/4 mile time seems accurate but I am not sure about the 0-60. Does anyone know why this would be.
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 10:27 PM
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Re: Re: New Car & Driver review. 3.2CL type-s

Originally posted by Nismo87SE

I want to know what was the 0-100, 5-60mph, 0-140 and 30-140mph ETs? 0-60mph times are meaningless, while a 1/4 ET/trap gives a good indication of how the power is being used. I'm betting that given 2 equal drivers both cars would run within 1-1.5 carlengths of each other.
I like the pic.
Old Jun 6, 2002 | 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


They dyno 220hp stock the 6spd does on the CL-S, and 205~ tq to the wheels.

That = about 15 more hp stock than a stock 6spd Maxima.
But the Maxima is making about 15 lb/ft torque more than the the CL-S.
The displacement advantange the Maxima should start to add up as the mods start to pile up too. All in all, its probably going to come down to which driver knows their own car better and comes out with the best 60' time.

Jesse
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 05:22 AM
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by Nismo87SE

I want to know what was the 0-100, 5-60mph, 0-140 and 30-140mph ETs? 0-60mph times are meaningless, while a 1/4 ET/trap gives a good indication of how the power is being used. I'm betting that given 2 equal drivers both cars would run within 1-1.5 carlengths of each other.

I do remmeber 0-100 was 15.2, but I can't remember anything else off hand. The magazine is at home.
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 06:28 AM
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Those C&D tests are so random. On the street .5 of a second is negotaible and completely up to the person driving. The way the tests are done is that they publish the best number after about 5-10 launches. Besides, isn't the CL going bye bye??
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 06:33 AM
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Is it possible to go one day here without a topic about the CL or TL? It's been beaten to death.



Acuras ROCK!
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 06:44 AM
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Is it possible to go one day here without a topic about the CL or TL? It's been beaten to death.



Acuras ROCK!


Who says you had to read them? lol



Don't read them if you don't care. Simple as that. Everyone enjoys talking about cars, that is why the forums are here.
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac




Who says you had to read them? lol



Don't read them if you don't care. Simple as that. Everyone enjoys talking about cars, that is why the forums are here.

Russ,

If you didn't own a CL, you would have already said this yourself.

You know, there is a search function where TECHNICAL discussions have taken place as to how these cars stack up. The answer is already there and is repeated on almost a daily basis.

THIS IS NOT A "JUST TALK ABOUT CARS FORUM". This is a generation specific forum. Polluting this forum with these threads EVERY SINGLE DAY is a waste of everyone's time. Not to mention the fact that they turn into 5-page flame wars.

I think I'll go over to the CL and TL forums and tell them how much better my 94 Maxima is and every single stupid fact about the vehicle. Yeah, I'm sure that would be tolerated.....
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


They dyno 220hp stock the 6spd does on the CL-S, and 205~ tq to the wheels.

That = about 15 more hp stock than a stock 6spd Maxima.
Russ...you forgot to mention how much more torq the 6sp max has though!!!
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 07:16 AM
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I do believe this test just came out in the magazine for July. And it would not be in any search engine. So this is new data and a new discussion. This post has been good till you decided to come in here to cause problems. As you can see I never said anything like what you did above. I am having a nice conversation and still will. Now go away Bill before you cause any more problems.

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Russ,

If you didn't own a CL, you would have already said this yourself.

You know, there is a search function where TECHNICAL discussions have taken place as to how these cars stack up. The answer is already there and is repeated on almost a daily basis.

THIS IS NOT A "JUST TALK ABOUT CARS FORUM". This is a generation specific forum. Polluting this forum with these threads EVERY SINGLE DAY is a waste of everyone's time. Not to mention the fact that they turn into 5-page flame wars.

I think I'll go over to the CL and TL forums and tell them how much better my 94 Maxima is and every single stupid fact about the vehicle. Yeah, I'm sure that would be tolerated.....
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
I do believe this test just came out in the magazine for July. And it would not be in any search engine. So this is new data and a new discussion. This post has been good till you decided to come in here to cause problems. As you can see I never said anything like what you did above. I am having a nice conversation and still will. Now go away Bill before you cause any more problems.

Bill and Russ sittin in a tree....K.I.S.S.I.N.G.

"Ummm Yes Maam, Can I order up one 6 page thread on Acuras vs. Maximas, please"

Old Jun 7, 2002 | 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by Padsy 02 6sp


Bill and Russ sittin in a tree....K.I.S.S.I.N.G.

"Ummm Yes Maam, Can I order up one 6 page thread on Acuras vs. Maximas, please"

You want any rice with that? Please drive thru! :P

PS, yeah I forgot the TQ of the Maxima but I wasn't sure what it was anyways, I knew it was a bit more.
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
I do believe this test just came out in the magazine for July. And it would not be in any search engine. So this is new data and a new discussion.


Russ,

This isn't anything new. It has been posted in the past couple of days. Do you remember SteVTEC's COUNTLESS posts where he is basically repeating himself on the gearing, hp, track times, etc. of the CL/TL/Accord and Maximas?

This post has been good till you decided to come in here to cause problems. As you can see I never said anything like what you did above. I am having a nice conversation and still will. Now go away Bill before you cause any more problems.
I'm not causing problems, I'm just telling you how it's going to go. Because it is how everyone of these CL/TL/BLAH BLAH BLAH posts goes: straight to hell. Sometimes you're involved, sometimes you're not.

This "holier than thou" attitude of yours towards me is sad. You, once again, are trying to make yourself "look better" than me by being calm in a type of thread/discsssion where you are rarely so. I don't see the need for you to do this. People aren't going to think any higher of you arguing with me, especially when 95% of the people here think I'm a stupidass anyway. In reality, it's different, but this is the internet.....

I am on the record on more than one occasion in this forum asking to leave the beaten to a bloddy pulp horse alone. The CL/TL thing has been played to death and no "in-depth new" article is going to change that....

I would bring up the search function results and the countless times in this forum alone where you have engaged in flames on this topic, but somehow it would end up being my fault and I would be the source of the problem. So, I'll just let it lie and admit you are the best, I love you , your car is just flat out superior and has MAD torque, I wish I were like you, and PEACE YO!
Old Jun 7, 2002 | 08:01 AM
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I think its time...

we all need to just go hug the next T/CL-S owner we see..


come on, closer... closer.. big hug.. now, isnt that better?
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Re: I think its time...

Originally posted by TimW
we all need to just go hug the next T/CL-S owner we see..


come on, closer... closer.. big hug.. now, isnt that better?


I need a hug .....

C'mon over here Rus, GIVE ME A HUUUUG
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Originally posted by Padsy 02 6sp




I need a hug .....

C'mon over here Rus, GIVE ME A HUUUUG
lol!

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