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NOS dry kit ... to NOS wet kit

Old Feb 20, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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NOS dry kit ... to NOS wet kit

can i add the feul solenoid (and wiring and plumbing) to my NOS 5124 kit and make it a wet shot? Jegs sells the feul solenoid for $62.XX, providing theat i was looking at the right one...

has anyone ever done this b4, can it be done? i would feel safer with a wet shot

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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DaThrillr
can i add the feul solenoid (and wiring and plumbing) to my NOS 5124 kit and make it a wet shot? Jegs sells the feul solenoid for $62.XX, providing theat i was looking at the right one...

has anyone ever done this b4, can it be done? i would feel safer with a wet shot

~James

You need a nitrous/fuel nozzle to make it work. In a wet kit the nitrous and fuel flow throught the nozzle and the pressure of the nitrous and the design of the nozzle atomizes the fuel so that its virtually a vapour in the intake manifold.

Thats why there has only been one company that made a wet kit up until the recent past and that was NX, because they were able to design a nozzle that would effectively atomize the fuel. All the rest have now copied their design and offer a wet kit even though previously they said it was dangerous, would cause fuel puddling etc.

Short answer, yes. You need a nozzle along with the solenoid and the associated lines to connect it up.

Has anyone else done it, not that I have noticed but certainly there is no reason why not.
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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You need a nitrous/fuel nozzle to make it work. In a wet kit the nitrous and fuel flow throught the nozzle and the pressure of the nitrous and the design of the nozzle atomizes the fuel so that its virtually a vapour in the intake manifold.

Thats why there has only been one company that made a wet kit up until the recent past and that was NX, because they were able to design a nozzle that would effectively atomize the fuel. All the rest have now copied their design and offer a wet kit even though previously they said it was dangerous, would cause fuel puddling etc.

Short answer, yes. You need a nozzle along with the solenoid and the associated lines to connect it up.

Has anyone else done it, not that I have noticed but certainly there is no reason why not.
yeah ..damn ur fast... im gonna call Holley tomorrow and ask them.. that would be my best bet right?

so this would mean i disconnect the vacuum line to my stock FPR, and then i have to put a Tee on my feul line and run solenoids together and get the nozzel, and approiate jets.
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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yeah ..damn ur fast... im gonna call Holley tomorrow and ask them.. that would be my best bet right?

so this would mean i disconnect the vacuum line to my stock FPR, and then i have to put a Tee on my feul line and run solenoids together and get the nozzel, and approiate jets.
Yes, get rid of the vacuum line setup, with the wet kit you run at stock fuel pressure. Yes on the Tee as well. The new nozzle will replace the nitrous nozzle and you feed both fuel and nitrous from the solenoids into it.

You can probably get the wet kit instructions from their site if you need them, as well the jet sizing charts.
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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yeah i figured on the vacuum swap, and the nozzel, on my current dry set up there are 2 solenoids and a vacuum do i need all 3 if i decide to do this? or do i use them in conjunction with the feul solenoid?
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Originally Posted by DaThrillr
yeah i figured on the vacuum swap, and the nozzel, on my current dry set up there are 2 solenoids and a vacuum do i need all 3 if i decide to do this? or do i use them in conjunction with the feul solenoid?
To be honest, even though my first kit was a NOS dry setup I never did figure out the requirement for the 2 solenoids. I think I would just run the current nitrous line to the new nozzle, disconnect the vacuum line T setup and connect up the fuel solenoid to a fuel T as you suggested earlier and run the outlet of the fuel solenoid to the new nozzle as well and just leave the rest the way it is.

Tee the electrical supply from the relay that goes to your nitrous solenoid and feed the other line to your new fuel solenoid as well so that they both open simultaniously.

I think that should do it but you are doing something I haven't done before and this is off the top of my head, I also make mistakes so don't take that as the gospel.
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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ok..yeah i was trying to figure out the set up my self..i also tried the Holley website but its no use i cant navigate through it.. could u help me find the install instructs for the NOS 05130 kit?
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I think someone has them on their site but I can't remember off hand who it is.

You can get the NX instructions off of their site pretty easy no sure if they will help or not.
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no . no help bc the NX uses 2 solenoids NO2 and feul.... i mainly wanna see the elect. and mechanical diagrams and the part list if u remember please let me know.
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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ok i spoke to Holley today and they were very helpful and very thourgh with answers and werent quick to say , "just buy a new wet kit" actaully they didnt say it at all. The tech looked at both kits and told me what i need and what i dont need and even gave me all part #s

i need fogger nozzel (#13716), feul solenoid (#16080), length os SS braided line, Feul Tee (#15571), and feul supply line (#15215-s) all NOS products.

and then from there they explianed how to stich the parts ..what i need and what i dont.. like get rid of vaccuum line, and install the feul solenoid and new nozzel and attach the power and ground for solenoid to other solenoid power and grnds.

i will call Jegs.com tomorrow and see about prices.

now for u people that know the differences between the different kits what are the differences between NOS wet kit and a NX wet kit? from what i see everyone jumps on the NX bandwagon. would it be smart for me to upgrade this kit or sell and use $ to buy a NX kit.
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Originally Posted by DaThrillr
ok i spoke to Holley today and they were very helpful and very thourgh with answers and werent quick to say , "just buy a new wet kit" actaully they didnt say it at all. The tech looked at both kits and told me what i need and what i dont need and even gave me all part #s

i need fogger nozzel (#13716), feul solenoid (#16080), length os SS braided line, Feul Tee (#15571), and feul supply line (#15215-s) all NOS products.

and then from there they explianed how to stich the parts ..what i need and what i dont.. like get rid of vaccuum line, and install the feul solenoid and new nozzel and attach the power and ground for solenoid to other solenoid power and grnds.

i will call Jegs.com tomorrow and see about prices.

now for u people that know the differences between the different kits what are the differences between NOS wet kit and a NX wet kit? from what i see everyone jumps on the NX bandwagon. would it be smart for me to upgrade this kit or sell and use $ to buy a NX kit.
I have no idea what the differences are between the wet NOS and NX. The reason I use NX is because NX had the only wet kit on the market when I switched from dry to wet, until the others copied their design. NOS even claimed wet was bad etc etc. Not sure what they claim now.

Let the price decide which way to go. If it costs more to upgrade than to sell your NOS kit then do which is cheapest. I don't think there is probably a whole lot of difference between the two wet kits, I do know that NX has much stronger solenoids and they are guaranteed for life and they will also rebuild them for free as often as you want. I also don't know of anyone that has a wet NOS kit so I have no basis to compare them.
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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ok thanx for the info.... i like the sound of life time warranties! how often do solenoids fail? NOS sells a rebuild kit for their solenoids.
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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I have a failed NOS purge solenoid that I had from my NOS kit. I just replaced it with an NX one. It was $40 for the rebuild kit. NOS also uses the same solenoid for nitrous as it does for purge, they are really a light duty unit.

NX nitrous solenoids also have N2O filters incorporated into the design. They have a flow through design for purging. The nitrous solenoid has 3 ports, in, out and purge so the N2O actually flows through and cools nitrous solenoid when purging.

I am on my Soapbox. I swear I could sell these things.

The other thing the NX does well is tech support. I was always able to get instant info when needed and that is important when you have questions. Don't rely on anybody but experts when it comes to your system, the results are tooo expensive.
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